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Postby Hobbeebia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:10 am

I feel as though nature kinda picks for you in terms of what dangles ( or receeds) between your legs.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:15 am

Olthar wrote:I know because I know. A tautology, I know, but when it comes to self-identification, that's really all I can say.


That is interesting, as I've noticed that alot of the transgender rights issues revolve around identity rather than biological sex, but it's not often said how exactly the identity is identified, thus it appears circular- they identify because they identify. When you take away the points of reference (genitals and traditional gender personality traits) what do you base it on? I'm not at all suggesting that they're wrong, I support progressive LGBT movements, but it is something that hasn't been touched on in those discussions. Perhaps they feel something deeper than external gender behaviors.
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Postby Valendia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:17 am

Hobbeebia wrote:I feel as though nature kinda picks for you in terms of what dangles ( or receeds) between your legs.


Sex =/= gender.
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Postby Hobbeebia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:18 am

Valendia wrote:
Hobbeebia wrote:I feel as though nature kinda picks for you in terms of what dangles ( or receeds) between your legs.


Sex =/= gender.


Maybe so... but it makes things a hell lot less confusing if you just accept fate LOL. That and I would make one ugly chick... just saying.
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Postby Valendia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:20 am

Hobbeebia wrote:Maybe so... but it makes things a hell lot less confusing if you just accept fate LOL. That and I would make one ugly chick... just saying.


And what if your fate is to have a penis yet be female in gender?

The two gender construct is extraordinarily simplistic and also artificial given that gender roles and even the number of genders has varied historically.
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Postby Hobbeebia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:25 am

Then be male as nature perscribed... its very simple... LOL
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Postby Tsuntion » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:26 am

Hobbeebia wrote:
Valendia wrote:
Sex =/= gender.


Maybe so... but it makes things a hell lot less confusing if you just accept fate LOL. That and I would make one ugly chick... just saying.


For a cisgender person, yes. For some (/most/nearly all/all) transgender people, though, "accepting fate" is be confusing, distressing, and depressing in the extreme and what helps them is transitioning.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:29 am

Shaggai wrote:From what I've heard, you check if you think you have the right genitals. If they don't match what you think you should have, you're probably trans*.


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Postby Valendia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:31 am

Hobbeebia wrote:Then be male as nature perscribed... its very simple... LOL


Nature prescribed male sex, not male gender. Primarily because "male" in terms of gender is a social construct, not a biological one.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:31 am

I'm born, and identify as, male. I have no problems with the tools supplied to me.
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Postby Hobbeebia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:36 am

I've never had an issue with who I am either biologically or mentally. I see things in black and white on this... My brother is Transexual, he has explained it a hundred times but to me it comes across as a mental thing and the mind is under the control of its user... if I'm scared of something I can will myself to not fear it, if something hurts I can will it to stop. I am a strong minded person. If my mind tries and tell me something I and visually see is incorrect I will it to think otherwise and correct the thought.... but that just me.
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Postby The Desert of Sin » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:48 am

Because when I was born I was born with a penis, so my parents said I was male and when i grew up it felt normal for me to be male so I've presumed I am a male.

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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:18 am

Creativalsia wrote:what is gender?


I'd guess, the perception of one's own position within the male/female sliding scale of typical looks and traditional social roles.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:29 am

Creativalsia wrote:How does one know if they are transgender, gender queer or non-gendered? For that matter, what is gender?


There's a serial number on the divot of flesh between your anus and your genitalia. If your number starts with 'S', you are of the male gender. If it starts with 'K' then you are of the female gender. If it starts with 'W', then you are a muskrat. *nod*
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Postby Aquafireland » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:32 am

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Creativalsia wrote:How does one know if they are transgender, gender queer or non-gendered? For that matter, what is gender?


There's a serial number on the divot of flesh between your anus and your genitalia. If your number starts with 'S', you are of the male gender. If it starts with 'K' then you are of the female gender. If it starts with 'W', then you are a muskrat. *nod*

I'm so checking that muskrat option.
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Postby Tyriece » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:42 am

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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:23 am

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Postby Wytenigistan » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:55 am

From what I've been told its a process, but if you don't feel comfortable as what you are assigned at birth you are likely one of those things. Being a cis female who has never struggled with this I am probably not the best person to answer your question.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:56 am

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Postby Xsyne » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:10 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Creativalsia wrote:How does one know if they are transgender, gender queer or non-gendered? For that matter, what is gender?


There's a serial number on the divot of flesh between your anus and your genitalia. If your number starts with 'S', you are of the male gender. If it starts with 'K' then you are of the female gender. If it starts with 'W', then you are a muskrat. *nod*

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Postby Xsyne » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:10 am

Ifreann wrote:I cast detect woman in the mirror. Bam.

What if the mirror's a woman?
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Postby Wytenigistan » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:18 am

Xsyne wrote:
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There's a serial number on the divot of flesh between your anus and your genitalia. If your number starts with 'S', you are of the male gender. If it starts with 'K' then you are of the female gender. If it starts with 'W', then you are a muskrat. *nod*

If you don't have one, you're a replicant.

But then how would you know what you're a replicant of, or would you just go through life identifying as a replicant...and would that give people the right to treat you differently because you are a replicant and not an original or would that be sexism against replicants? Do you believe in replicant equality and aknowledge your non-replicant power/privilege if you are not a replicant or do you think replicants are just trying to subvert society and beg for attention as an exception to the rule rather than a legitimate identity?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:28 am

Xsyne wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I cast detect woman in the mirror. Bam.

What if the mirror's a woman?

I...I don't know...
*identity crisis*
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Postby Shnercropolis » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:40 am

Xsyne wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I cast detect woman in the mirror. Bam.

What if the mirror's a woman?

Then I make love to the mirror.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
Xsyne wrote:What if the mirror's a woman?

I...I don't know...
*identity crisis*


CHeck your serial number. *nod*
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