Fascism: Good or Bad?

[Libertarian California]

Good point.

Why can't we all live in one big country? Rivalry between "States" would be fine, as long as people understood that they needed to contribute to the world, not just their state.

This would turn the world into a massive Austria-Hungary.

[The Grey Wolf]

I find it ironic that Communist, liberals, and socialists criticize Fascism and Fascist government. At least our form of government works, and is successful.

[Libertarian California]

I find it ironic that Communist, liberals, and socialists criticize Fascism and Fascist government. At least our form of government works, and is successful.

Outside of fascism's nationalist elements, it has little going for it.

Authoritarianism is largely unsuccessful.

[Anachronous Rex]

I find it ironic that Communist, liberals, and socialists criticize Fascism and Fascist government. At least our form of government works, and is successful.

Right...

Well Franco managed to hold on for a while, but generally Fascist nations have very short shelf lives. Whereas Communist nations seem to linger seemingly indefinitely. So I'm not sure what metric you are using to measure success...

Or "working," for that matter. Liberal democracy seems to correlate to the highest GDP per capitas in the world.

[Libertarian California]

I find it ironic that Communist, liberals, and socialists criticize Fascism and Fascist government. At least our form of government works, and is successful.

Right...

Well Franco managed to hold on for a while, but generally Fascist nations have very short shelf lives. Whereas Communist nations seem to linger seemingly indefinitely. So I'm not sure what metric you are using to measure success...

Or "working," for that matter. Liberal democracy seems to correlate to the highest GDP per capitas in the world.

Most "communist" nations have ceased to exist, but Cuba continues to hold on for dear life.

[Verdum]

I find it ironic that Communist, liberals, and socialists criticize Fascism and Fascist government. At least our form of government works, and is successful.

Right...

Well Franco managed to hold on for a while, but generally Fascist nations have very short shelf lives. Whereas Communist nations seem to linger seemingly indefinitely. So I'm not sure what metric you are using to measure success...

Or "working," for that matter. Liberal democracy seems to correlate to the highest GDP per capitas in the world.

I would prefer Fascism fall in a blaze of glory thing linger on as a zombie like China or the Soviet Union when it was around.
And those other Communist nations no one gives two shits about.

[Anachronous Rex]

Right...

Well Franco managed to hold on for a while, but generally Fascist nations have very short shelf lives. Whereas Communist nations seem to linger seemingly indefinitely. So I'm not sure what metric you are using to measure success...

Or "working," for that matter. Liberal democracy seems to correlate to the highest GDP per capitas in the world.

Most "communist" nations have ceased to exist, but Cuba continues to hold on for dear life.

North Korea doesn't seem to be going anywhere either.

China, of course, is still technically communist (with "Chinese Cultural Characteristics.") The USSR lasted quite a bit longer then any fascist nation.

[Novus Niciae]

Unquestioning loyalty to the state?

Definitely a bad thing.

The state frequently needs to be told when it is wrong , and when criticism of the state becomes treason then the mistakes of the state will compound upon each other until they cause the eventual collapse of the state in question.

[Anachronous Rex]

Right...

Well Franco managed to hold on for a while, but generally Fascist nations have very short shelf lives. Whereas Communist nations seem to linger seemingly indefinitely. So I'm not sure what metric you are using to measure success...

Or "working," for that matter. Liberal democracy seems to correlate to the highest GDP per capitas in the world.

I would prefer Fascism fall in a blaze of glory thing linger on as a zombie like China or the Soviet Union when it was around.
And those other Communist nations no one gives two shits about.

I'm sure you would, and if wolf-of-indeterminate-non-white-pigmentation had argued that I would have dealt with that.

He said they worked and were successful. Unless he believes bottle-rockets are the pinnacle of political science, this is bullshit.

[Verdum]

I would prefer Fascism fall in a blaze of glory thing linger on as a zombie like China or the Soviet Union when it was around.
And those other Communist nations no one gives two shits about.

I'm sure you would, and if wolf-of-indeterminate-non-white-pigmentation had argued that I would have dealt with that.

He said they worked and were successful. Unless he believes bottle-rockets are the pinnacle of political science, this is bullshit.

Hmm.
Fascism would work. However everyone around said Fascist country would, well, turn again'st it.
Militarization is a bad thing to people, although vengeance is a bitch so it should be. Fear the reaper.

The point is I THINK it would work, but that's only if everyone ignored the fact I was building up a military for a helluva strike again'st whoever I have a problem with.

EDIT: Sorry, sorry everybody. Didn't mean to spam that...lag...

[Blasveck]

I'm sure you would, and if wolf-of-indeterminate-non-white-pigmentation had argued that I would have dealt with that.

He said they worked and were successful. Unless he believes bottle-rockets are the pinnacle of political science, this is bullshit.

Hmm.
Fascism would work. However everyone around said Fascist country would, well, turn again'st it.
Militarization is a bad thing to people, although vengeance is a bitch so it should be. Fear the reaper.

The point is I THINK it would work, but that's only if everyone ignored the fact I was building up a military for a helluva strike again'st whoever I have a problem with.

So militarization for the point of militarization, prompting other nations to attack you out of fear, thereby justifying growing the powers of the state and the military "for the good of the nation"?

Jesus, Do you think this through?

[Verdum]

Hmm.
Fascism would work. However everyone around said Fascist country would, well, turn again'st it.
Militarization is a bad thing to people, although vengeance is a bitch so it should be. Fear the reaper.

The point is I THINK it would work, but that's only if everyone ignored the fact I was building up a military for a helluva strike again'st whoever I have a problem with.

So militarization for the point of militarization, prompting other nations to attack you out of fear, thereby justifying growing the powers of the state and the military "for the good of the nation"?

Jesus, Do you think this through?

I do think it through.

People would obviously suspect a military buildup; no point in trying to look past it.

Militarization for the strengthening of the country to exact revenge upon those who deserve it.

The powers of the military and state are justified to keep the country strong.

[Blasveck]

So militarization for the point of militarization, prompting other nations to attack you out of fear, thereby justifying growing the powers of the state and the military "for the good of the nation"?

Jesus, Do you think this through?

I do think it through.

People would obviously suspect a military buildup; no point in trying to look past it.

Militarization for the strengthening of the country to exact revenge upon those who deserve it.

The powers of the military and state are justified to keep the country strong.

I presume you feel that you'll be one of the leaders, yes?

[Verdum]

I do think it through.

People would obviously suspect a military buildup; no point in trying to look past it.

Militarization for the strengthening of the country to exact revenge upon those who deserve it.

The powers of the military and state are justified to keep the country strong.

I presume you feel that you'll be one of the leaders, yes?

I doubt it. I do not, by myself, feel I am fit to lead.
If my nation deems that I am a strong leader, then so be it. If the nation deems another is a strong leader, may he lead our nation into whatever may come.

I could be a carpenter, factory worker, soldier, or police officer.
For the good of the country.

[The Grey Wolf]

I do think it through.

People would obviously suspect a military buildup; no point in trying to look past it.

Militarization for the strengthening of the country to exact revenge upon those who deserve it.

The powers of the military and state are justified to keep the country strong.

I presume you feel that you'll be one of the leaders, yes?

Since this question is often directed to all Fascist in general, I want to give my response - hell no. That's too much responsibility. I could never be a Duce, a Führer, or Caudillo. I don't have the charisma, or intelligence necessary for such an endeavor. There would be/are more qualified individuals.

[Verdum]

I presume you feel that you'll be one of the leaders, yes?

Since this question is often directed to all Fascist in general, I want to give my response - hell no. That's too much responsibility. I could never be a Duce, a Führer, or Caudillo. I don't have the charisma, or intelligence necessary for such an endeavor. There would be/are more qualified individuals.

You make me teary eyed.

[The Grey Wolf]

Since this question is often directed to all Fascist in general, I want to give my response - hell no. That's too much responsibility. I could never be a Duce, a Führer, or Caudillo. I don't have the charisma, or intelligence necessary for such an endeavor. There would be/are more qualified individuals.

You make me teary eyed.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[Verdum]

You make me teary eyed.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

It's a good thing.
Probably one of the few things that make me show emotion; good job.

[Lebanon Christian Republic]

Fascism and Communism are Good in theory but they both end badly with a corrupt psychotic dictator.

[Verdum]

Fascism and Communism are Good in theory but they both end badly with a corrupt psychotic dictator.

Nevermind, no longer teary eyed. Good job.

[The Grey Wolf]

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

It's a good thing.
Probably one of the few things that make me show emotion; good job.

Thank you.

[Mkuki]

Fascism and Communism are Good in theory but they both end badly with a corrupt psychotic dictator.

Fascism is not good in practice or theory.

[Avenio]

It's probably a close second in terms of 'worst ideologies ever', if only because Stalinism managed to edge it out in terms of industrialized production of human suffering and misery.

Look another expert on Fascism and Stalinism.

Do you deny that fascism has the second-highest body count of any ideology in human history?

[Islamic Shia Order of Dagestan]

If you support Murder this is the ideology for you! And Oppression is #1 in Fascism but like I said you like it than it's good to you but bad for us.

[THE UNION OF FREE STATES OF AMERICA]

Fascism is Evil as hell.
The fascists are just like every other statist, communist, nazi, socialist, maoist, marxist, leninist, stalinist, and modern liberal.
They seek to enslave the citizenry in order to help themselves, as well as seeking to promote their own political agenda. Thus spreading the cancer even further.

First the culture becomes perverted, then the morals of the individual becomes blurred( for he now does not know what he believes), next it becomes very easy to surprise the citizenry with a loss of their freedom, liberty, and an encroachment of partial or total control, and with this any rebellious movement could not organize, and as thus the end result would be a silencing of political views, and a keeping of the new regime would last.

It might go along these lines.

P.S. I tend to get sidetracked sometimes, this may be one of those times. The above may sound confusing. Yet I myself do believe this has helped my comment in some way.

Answer to the Question, "Fascism: Good or Bad?":
BAD.