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What kind of Atheist are you?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:39 am
by Viinborg
As what kind of Atheist would you describe yourself?

Here's a breakdown of the options:
- Richard Dawkins: Atheist (within a very reasonable margin of error)
- Daniel Dennett: Bright
- Christopher Hitchens: Antitheist
- Sam Harris: Nothing (just like I don’t need to remind myself that I am a ‘non-astrologer’)

In this brief poll I have listed four well-known options - you may find another terminology more appropriate. If so, feel free to discuss it. Personally, I subscribe to Harris' view.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:41 am
by Tlaceceyaya
There's a lot of overlap there.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:42 am
by Divair
These options make no sense at all.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:43 am
by Zottistan
All/none of the above.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:43 am
by Viinborg
Tlaceceyaya wrote:There's a lot of overlap there.

Well, it's all atheism at the core - hence the question.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:43 am
by Starkiller101
Not a atheist but i accept people beleifs

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:44 am
by Quintium
I'm Euphoric.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:47 am
by Riiser-Larsen
Quintium wrote:I'm Euphoric.



I'll second this one.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:47 am
by Tsuntion
Could you describe bright atheism?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:47 am
by Avenio
I didn't realize atheism was solely defined by the beliefs of four middle aged WASP males.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:47 am
by Oppressorion
What's "Bright" meant to mean?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:47 am
by Viinborg
Divair wrote:These options make no sense at all.

I welcome criticism, but could you expand on your remarks?
As I said, all the options are atheist labels but with very different attitudes.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:47 am
by Atvania
Quintium wrote:I'm Euphoric.


Beta alert.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:47 am
by Zachsland
Im a non-atheist :clap:

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:47 am
by The USOT
Viinborg wrote:As what kind of Atheist would you describe yourself?

Here's a breakdown of the options:
- Richard Dawkins: Atheist (within a very reasonable margin of error)
- Daniel Dennett: Bright
- Christopher Hitchens: Antitheist
- Sam Harris: Nothing (just like I don’t need to remind myself that I am a ‘non-astrologer’)

In this brief poll I have listed four well-known options - you may find another terminology more appropriate. If so, feel free to discuss it. Personally, I subscribe to Harris' view.

...I dont think you fully understand the terms...

Casing point, all 4 of them are/were anti-theists.
That includes Sam Harris despite his odd breif stint of "we should not be called atheists" despite the absurdity of still qualifying as atheists. Indeed though im unaware of him supporting the movement, much of his writing from that time suggests the promotion of groups like "the brights" (with Hitchens being the only one who outright rejected the idea to my knowledge).

Also Dawkins as "Atheist (within a very reasonable margin of error)" I presume applies to him being an agnostic atheist in refference to the concept of a deity, but a gnostic atheist in response to some gods (e.g. Yahweh). If this is the case, once again you have all 4 of them.

What would probably be a better version of the poll, recognising that many of them overlap would be to replace the option in the poll with the four horsemen themselves, and ask people who`s stances on atheism and theism the reader is most like.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:48 am
by Divair
Viinborg wrote:
Divair wrote:These options make no sense at all.

I welcome criticism, but could you expand on your remarks?
As I said, all the options are atheist labels but with very different attitudes.

There are no "kinds" of atheism.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:49 am
by Chinese Regions
What's "bright"? I remember Dawkins said Atheists should refer to themselves as either "Smart" or "bright" in the same way homosexuals are called "gay" (happy), or something along those terms.

I identity myself as Agnostic Ahtiest.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:49 am
by The Great Trade Republic
The stereotypical kind.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:49 am
by Ardavia
Are these choices supposed to be this.. vague?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:50 am
by Starkiller101
The Great Trade Republic wrote:The stereotypical kind.
which is :?:

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:50 am
by The USOT
Avenio wrote:I didn't realize atheism was solely defined by the beliefs of four middle aged WASP males.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:50 am
by Riiser-Larsen
Divair wrote:
Viinborg wrote:I welcome criticism, but could you expand on your remarks?
As I said, all the options are atheist labels but with very different attitudes.

There are no "kinds" of atheism.


Well, that's not really true. There are passive atheists, and aggressive atheists, and the weird bunch of atheists (people who are atheists because they think it's "cool").

Of course, none of those really fit in the categories, and a lot of atheists borrow traits from the different groups.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:50 am
by Risottia
I belong to the "evil devious eurocommie baby-eating" type of Atheist.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:50 am
by Quintium
Atvania wrote:
Quintium wrote:I'm Euphoric.


Beta alert.


You can say that again. The funniest part - or the most depressing part, depending on which way you look at it - is that there are actually people who think like that.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:50 am
by Trotskylvania
Ultimately, I'm an anti-theist at heart.