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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:55 pm

Death Metal wrote:
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America's Army begs to differ. Propaganda is propaganda regardless of its funding source.


America's Army is one (unsuccessful and obscure) game among dozens of privately-funded games about the US military.

Also, there's the part where America doesn't censor games for "historical inaccuracy".


good luck getting consultants for your game if the government doesn't like you!

i suppose we could get the market to do that as well. see how well we can sell a game with a realistic depiction of american history. remember, kill everyone over ten. yes, even the little girls. compete with your friends on our scoreboard to see who can get the most bananas!
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Postby Lordieth » Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:57 pm

I gleefully await a game that receives Russian state funding for being patriotic, while containing many easter eggs and subtle "hints" to the contrary.

"Hammer Sickle Iron Fist"? No, it's about Ponies, brah.
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:58 pm

Quintium wrote:Ah, Russia. The country that gets insulted - though rarely openly attacked - by western liberals for doing what its population wants.

Hey, don't leave out the conservatives. They've had some mighty fine zingers, I tell you.
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:58 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
America's Army is one (unsuccessful and obscure) game among dozens of privately-funded games about the US military.

Also, there's the part where America doesn't censor games for "historical inaccuracy".


good luck getting consultants for your game if the government doesn't like you!


With one phone call I can get a consultant without needing to bother with government channels. It's easy.
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:00 pm

Lordieth wrote:I gleefully await a game that receives Russian state funding for being patriotic, while containing many easter eggs and subtle "hints" to the contrary.

"Hammer Sickle Iron Fist"? No, it's about Ponies, brah.


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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:01 pm

The Genoese Cromanatum wrote:The Russian government has said that it will fund the production of patriotic games, while titles that distort history could be banned in the country.

What does NSG think about this? Brainwashing or Patriotic Education?

I think it might actually be a good move for cultural education, however there is the prevalent fact that Russia could use this to misinform the Russian populace quite a good deal.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/russian-go ... es-6415492


I would be interested in seeing what sort of games come out from this programme.

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Postby Lordieth » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:04 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Lordieth wrote:I gleefully await a game that receives Russian state funding for being patriotic, while containing many easter eggs and subtle "hints" to the contrary.

"Hammer Sickle Iron Fist"? No, it's about Ponies, brah.


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Postby Atelia » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:04 pm

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
The Genoese Cromanatum wrote:The Russian government has said that it will fund the production of patriotic games, while titles that distort history could be banned in the country.

What does NSG think about this? Brainwashing or Patriotic Education?

I think it might actually be a good move for cultural education, however there is the prevalent fact that Russia could use this to misinform the Russian populace quite a good deal.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/russian-go ... es-6415492


I would be interested in seeing what sort of games come out from this programme.

Agreed lets see if the Russians can make something good.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:08 pm

The only other relevant pages I can find with mention of "Arseny Mironov" online is a facebook page and links to articles with the same quote. If we go by the facebook page, the guy looks like an intern. Just thought that might be important before we start judging things based on his information.

Assuming that the entirety of the article is accurate, some of it sounds quite good. Aviation on the Eastern Front is an oft neglected aspect of WWI (well, the entire eastern part of WWI tends to get ignored, really.)

I think the Russian government knows quite well that attempting to ban games in this day and age is a bit futile. If people want something, they can get their hands on it. The fact that China's "Great Firewall" is such a spectacular failure proves that.

And before anybody brings it up, Company of Heroes II was withdrawn from the market by its publisher. As far as I can tell, this is the first statement the government has made on the matter, the previous actions being due to (reasonable, in my opinion,) outcry against the content of the game. Showing Russian soldiers burning civilians alive in their own country, machine gunning their own people and generally being incompetent to an impossible degree is kind of offensive.
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:09 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Quintium wrote:Ah, Russia. The country that gets insulted - though rarely openly attacked - by western liberals for doing what its population wants.

Hey, don't leave out the conservatives. They've had some mighty fine zingers, I tell you.


Both this.

Atelia wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
I would be interested in seeing what sort of games come out from this programme.

Agreed lets see if the Russians can make something good.


I am indeed anticipating something of gobsmacking epicness coming out of this. If something gets released let me know.

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Postby Ponyfornia » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:26 pm

Rio Cana wrote:Russians already have patriotic anime.

Short clip of the anime "First Squad". Story written by Russians while Japanese provided the graphics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45GqaJ2rY_c


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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:29 pm

Souseiseki wrote:americas army

What he said^.
Although it's worth point out that the majority of enemies in 'Modern' American shooters are either Arabic or Asian in appearance.
Some rather disturbing implications?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:29 pm

Funding 'patriotic' video games isn't really concerning. Banning 'ahistorical' ones? Bit of an issue.
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Postby Constantinopia » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:33 pm

Brainwashing by video games, who would've thought.
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Postby Aggicificicerous » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:33 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Aggicificicerous wrote:
America's Army begs to differ. Propaganda is propaganda regardless of its funding source.


America's Army is one (unsuccessful and obscure) game among dozens of privately-funded games about the US military.

Also, there's the part where America doesn't censor games for "historical inaccuracy".


No, America's Army is actually funded by the American army. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Army

I'm not a fan of censoring historical accuracy, but it's not as though the American-made video games are overly concerned with historical accuracy either.
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Postby Haktiva » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:34 pm

I like to think I'm immune to most forms of brainwashing. *chugs a liter of Coke*

I just hope we can have some Enemy at the Gates stuff. I love it when the human wave shouts epically right before most of them turn into swiss cheese. Who knows, maybe we'll have more games with Spetsnaz being good guys.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:34 pm

Genivaria wrote:What he said^.
Although it's worth point out that the majority of enemies in 'Modern' American shooters are either Arabic or Asian in appearance.
Some rather disturbing implications?

During the Cold War, the enemies were the Russians. Now, we're either looking at our troubles in the Middle East or potential rivals in the Far East. It's not really 'unfortunate implications' unless you consider American foreign policy in general to be unfortunate. Fighting France or Germany or somesuch wouldn't make much sense (Not that such military shooters make much sense to begin with), and other regions are rather... limited. Ghost Recon did South and Central America several times, I think. Africa is generally ignored in most video games, FC2 excepted. Russia is still a favorite, nostalgia, I guess.
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Postby Altaslavia » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:34 pm

I can`t see anything wrong with that. The same thing happens in the West all the time. :clap:

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:35 pm

Altaslavia wrote:I can`t see anything wrong with that. The same thing happens in the West all the time. :clap:

We ban ahistorical games?
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:37 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Genivaria wrote:What he said^.
Although it's worth point out that the majority of enemies in 'Modern' American shooters are either Arabic or Asian in appearance.
Some rather disturbing implications?

During the Cold War, the enemies were the Russians. Now, we're either looking at our troubles in the Middle East or potential rivals in the Far East. It's not really 'unfortunate implications' unless you consider American foreign policy in general to be unfortunate. Fighting France or Germany or somesuch wouldn't make much sense (Not that such military shooters make much sense to begin with), and other regions are rather... limited. Ghost Recon did South and Central America several times, I think. Africa is generally ignored in most video games, FC2 excepted. Russia is still a favorite, nostalgia, I guess.

My point is that video games being played by children depict Arabs and Asians as enemies to be shot.
I find that to be disturbing.

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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:38 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Genivaria wrote:What he said^.
Although it's worth point out that the majority of enemies in 'Modern' American shooters are either Arabic or Asian in appearance.
Some rather disturbing implications?

During the Cold War, the enemies were the Russians. Now, we're either looking at our troubles in the Middle East or potential rivals in the Far East. It's not really 'unfortunate implications' unless you consider American foreign policy in general to be unfortunate. Fighting France or Germany or somesuch wouldn't make much sense (Not that such military shooters make much sense to begin with), and other regions are rather... limited. Ghost Recon did South and Central America several times, I think. Africa is generally ignored in most video games.


Resident Evil 5 took place in Africa. There was a bit of an uproar about the fact that you play as a white dude, shooting up hordes of black dudes. I guess many game developers avoid making shooters that take place in Africa to avoid the race issue.
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:38 pm

Rio Cana wrote:Russians already have patriotic anime.

Short clip of the anime "First Squad". Story written by Russians while Japanese provided the graphics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45GqaJ2rY_c


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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:41 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:During the Cold War, the enemies were the Russians. Now, we're either looking at our troubles in the Middle East or potential rivals in the Far East. It's not really 'unfortunate implications' unless you consider American foreign policy in general to be unfortunate. Fighting France or Germany or somesuch wouldn't make much sense (Not that such military shooters make much sense to begin with), and other regions are rather... limited. Ghost Recon did South and Central America several times, I think. Africa is generally ignored in most video games.


Resident Evil 5 took place in Africa. There was a bit of an uproar about the fact that you play as a white dude, shooting up hordes of black dudes. I guess many game developers avoid making shooters that take place in Africa to avoid the race issue.

Granted that it was made by a Japanese company which wasn't quite aware of the racial implications.

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Postby Divair » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:42 pm

Another shit idea from the Russian gov. Nobody saw this coming.

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Postby 4years » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:46 pm

I am designing a game called Vladimir Ilyich were players run an underground party trying to overthrow the Russian government in order to tests the truthfulness of the the ban on games that distort history being about games distorting history (as opposed to plain old censorship) and to see if I can get the Russian government to fund a game the 'subtly' advocates its overthrow.
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