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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:55 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Divair wrote:It has?

Long story short (As told to me since it predates me being on NS), one left-wing Mod took the 2004 elections... poorly to say the least, went on a rampage and then deleted herself before the rest of the team caught up.


well to be fair they did fuck that one up quite badly

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Torisakia wrote:It has to do with something about some guy who talked about an illegal type of pornography and didn't get an action taken against by mods when another player did the same thing months before and got DEAT.

Slight difference, the other guy was actually talking about owning and going off to East Asia to molest children.


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Torisakia wrote:It has to do with something about some guy who talked about an illegal type of pornography and didn't get an action taken against by mods when another player did the same thing months before and got DEAT.
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The difference is the first player admitted to producing and possessing it. Which requires them to notify law enforcement and turn him in. Which they did. The second case, the player has only said they think it should be legal but has posted nothing saying they produced/possessed it. That's not enough to act on. Merely saying it should be legal is not the same as saying you have made it and watch/posses it. Its suspicious sure, and you can bet they are watching that player closely now though, but as it is they've explained several times they don't have enough to act on.


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Postby Lost heros » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:55 pm

New Molsona wrote:May the - what i assume to be based on this post - great nation of Rand al Thor rest in peace.

What post?
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:56 pm

NERVUN wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Goddamnit why do you have to taunt us with food many of us will never be able to try but looks absolutely delicious and is making all of our mouth's water? YOU ARE THE WORST MOD EVER BECAUSE OF THIS.

Says the posters who constantly torture ME with tales of In-N-Out and good cheese that I cannot get in Japan... DO YOU KNOW THEY PUT HOT DOGS IN TACOS OVER HERE?!! DO YOU?!!!!!!

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Postby Maltropia » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:56 pm

New Molsona wrote:I always get banned because apparently, my posts don't conform to the liberal agenda of pro-atheism, and homosexuality "political correctness". All bans should be conformed by at least one conservative mod, and one liberal mod.

I've never gotten banned, and I'm very conservative. I don't think mods' own politics really play much into their rulings.
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Postby New Molsona » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:57 pm

Lost heros wrote:
New Molsona wrote:May the - what i assume to be based on this post - great nation of Rand al Thor rest in peace.

What post?

the OP
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Postby Lost heros » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:57 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Lost heros wrote:That would be so much extra work it would be ridiculous.

Not really much more work, and it would be worth it to keep all bans fair and unbiased

Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.
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Postby Divair » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:58 pm

Maltropia wrote:
New Molsona wrote:I always get banned because apparently, my posts don't conform to the liberal agenda of pro-atheism, and homosexuality "political correctness". All bans should be conformed by at least one conservative mod, and one liberal mod.

I've never gotten banned, and I'm very conservative. I don't think mods' own politics really play much into their rulings.

Quite. Given the amount of conservative posters on this forum, to imply that there's some kind of bias against them is complete nonsense (indeed, if you were deleted for your beliefs, and you haven't changed them, why are you still here?)

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Postby Maltropia » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:58 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Lost heros wrote:What post?

the OP

He was posting past ban.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:58 pm

Lost heros wrote:
New Molsona wrote:Not really much more work, and it would be worth it to keep all bans fair and unbiased

Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.


fuck, sometimes you can't even get one mod to actually fucking read everything
ask moderation about reading serious moderation candidates TGs without telling them about it until afterwards and/or apparently refusing to confirm/deny the exact timeline of TG reading ~~~ i hope you never sent any of the recent mods or the ones that got really close anything personal!

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Postby Torisakia » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:59 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Torisakia wrote:It has to do with something about some guy who talked about an illegal type of pornography and didn't get an action taken against by mods when another player did the same thing months before and got DEAT.
'
The difference is the first player admitted to producing and possessing it. Which requires them to notify law enforcement and turn him in. Which they did. The second case, the player has only said they think it should be legal but has posted nothing saying they produced/possessed it. That's not enough to act on. Merely saying it should be legal is not the same as saying you have made it and watch/posses it. Its suspicious sure, and you can bet they are watching that player closely now though, but as it is they've explained several times they don't have enough to act on.

Why did he even admit to producing and possessing it anyways? Especially on the INTERNET.
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Postby Lost heros » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:59 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Lost heros wrote:What post?

the OP

The OP was a shit post.
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:00 pm

Maltropia wrote:
New Molsona wrote:I always get banned because apparently, my posts don't conform to the liberal agenda of pro-atheism, and homosexuality "political correctness". All bans should be conformed by at least one conservative mod, and one liberal mod.

I've never gotten banned, and I'm very conservative. I don't think mods' own politics really play much into their rulings.

Honestly I think all of the liberal mod bias cries can be tied into the fact that, as a sweeping generalization, many times conservative posters are a bit less inclined to act civil here.

Lost heros wrote:
New Molsona wrote:Not really much more work, and it would be worth it to keep all bans fair and unbiased

Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.

Not to mention the fact of differing timezones delaying mod action, which would lead to people spamming moderation with cries of MAKE a Ruling Now! and Why no Ruling Yet?
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Postby New Molsona » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:00 pm

Lost heros wrote:
New Molsona wrote:Not really much more work, and it would be worth it to keep all bans fair and unbiased

Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.

You wouldn't be saying that if the mods discriminated against liberals instead of conservatives. The mods on here act as judge, jury, and executioner with no regard for the fact that there are people with different political opinions.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:00 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Lost heros wrote:Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.

You wouldn't be saying that if the mods discriminated against liberals instead of conservatives. The mods on here act as judge, jury, and executioner with no regard for the fact that there are people with different political opinions.


Show proof of your bullshit or bullshit it remains.
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Postby Divair » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:00 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Lost heros wrote:Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.

You wouldn't be saying that if the mods discriminated against liberals instead of conservatives. The mods on here act as judge, jury, and executioner with no regard for the fact that there are people with different political opinions.

Prove it.

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Postby Maltropia » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:02 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Lost heros wrote:Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.

You wouldn't be saying that if the mods discriminated against liberals instead of conservatives. The mods on here act as judge, jury, and executioner with no regard for the fact that there are people with different political opinions.

It's a political debate forum. It's impossible to ignore the fact that people have different political opinions.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:02 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Divair wrote:It has?

Long story short (As told to me since it predates me being on NS), one left-wing Mod took the 2004 elections... poorly to say the least, went on a rampage and then deleted herself before the rest of the team caught up.

Ooh, ouch. :<
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Postby Lost heros » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:03 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Lost heros wrote:Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.

You wouldn't be saying that if the mods discriminated against liberals instead of conservatives.

Yes I would. My beliefs are irrelevant to the fact that having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.
The mods on here act as judge, jury, and executioner with no regard for the fact that there are people with different political opinions.

I don't even know what you're trying to say here.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:03 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Long story short (As told to me since it predates me being on NS), one left-wing Mod took the 2004 elections... poorly to say the least, went on a rampage and then deleted herself before the rest of the team caught up.


well to be fair they did fuck that one up quite badly

What happened?
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:03 pm

Bezombia wrote:
New Molsona wrote:You wouldn't be saying that if the mods discriminated against liberals instead of conservatives. The mods on here act as judge, jury, and executioner with no regard for the fact that there are people with different political opinions.


Show proof of your bullshit or bullshit it remains.


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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:04 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Lost heros wrote:Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.

You wouldn't be saying that if the mods discriminated against liberals instead of conservatives. The mods on here act as judge, jury, and executioner with no regard for the fact that there are people with different political opinions.


Show some evidence or you, along with the OP, can be called for bullshit.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:04 pm

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Show proof of your bullshit or bullshit it remains.


Oh. So you did learn something today? Congratulations!


Should be asking you the same question.
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:04 pm

Torisakia wrote:
The Corparation wrote:'
The difference is the first player admitted to producing and possessing it. Which requires them to notify law enforcement and turn him in. Which they did. The second case, the player has only said they think it should be legal but has posted nothing saying they produced/possessed it. That's not enough to act on. Merely saying it should be legal is not the same as saying you have made it and watch/posses it. Its suspicious sure, and you can bet they are watching that player closely now though, but as it is they've explained several times they don't have enough to act on.

Why did he even admit to producing and possessing it anyways? Especially on the INTERNET.

He wasn't the smartest of people as I'm sure you're aware.

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Lost heros wrote:Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.

You wouldn't be saying that if the mods discriminated against liberals instead of conservatives. The mods on here act as judge, jury, and executioner with no regard for the fact that there are people with different political opinions.

So what you're saying here is that Mods are all just puppet accounts of this guy?
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Postby Transnapastain » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:04 pm

New Molsona wrote:I always get banned because apparently, my posts don't conform to the liberal agenda of pro-atheism, and homosexuality "political correctness". All bans should be conformed by at least one conservative mod, and one liberal mod.


Isn't this thread about mods not inserting their bias into rulings? Actively making mods view infractions through the scope of their political beliefs really defeats the purpose of impartial moderation.

For the record, I'm a very right-leaning individual. I had a look through your history. I'd have done nothing different.

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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:05 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Lost heros wrote:Having at least two mods looking over every case is a ridiculous amount of work.

You wouldn't be saying that if the mods discriminated against liberals instead of conservatives. The mods on here act as judge, jury, and executioner with no regard for the fact that there are people with different political opinions.


This is honestly just offensive. We have had people saying My Lai deserved it, Pinochet was a great dude and they all deserved it and maybe all the blacks should fuck off home and we can hardly touch them and the mods rarely lift their fingers, especially for the Pinopals. You could literally defend the most brutal conservative dictatorships you can think of right here right now and you'd be fine. Literal fucking Nazis are allowed on the forums and we're not allowed to tell them to fuck off b-b-because they're posters just like us.

Also you don't know what liberal means lol.

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Souseiseki wrote:
well to be fair they did fuck that one up quite badly

What happened?


they elected bush. again.
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