Seven Year Old "Too Young" For Puberty Blockers

[Shaggai]

A seven year old is far too young to make such a radical life-changing decision and the doctors are entirely right to refuse to perform the procedure.

I agree that a nine year old is too young to go through a permanent process that changes their body drastically in a way that may not be in accordance with their final gender.. Which is why the blockers should be used.

[Old Tyrannia]

A seven year old is far too young to make such a radical life-changing decision and the doctors are entirely right to refuse to perform the procedure.

What "radical life-changing decision" are the doctors refusing to perform?

I misread the article. Puberty-blockers don't seem as radical as a full sex-change operation, but I continue to believe the child should not undergo the treatment. I still don't think she is old enough to fully understand the implications, and if I'm reading this properly, she will be permanently behind her peers in terms of physical development which is obviously going to have an impact on her life and interactions with other children her age.

[Shaggai]

What "radical life-changing decision" are the doctors refusing to perform?

I misread the article. Puberty-blockers don't seem as radical as a full sex-change operation, but I continue to believe the child should not undergo the treatment. I still don't think she is old enough to fully understand the implications, and if I'm reading this properly, she will be permanently behind her peers in terms of physical development which is obviously going to have an impact on her life and interactions with other children her age.

His. He is a boy. Please stop migendering children.

[Old Tyrannia]

I misread the article. Puberty-blockers don't seem as radical as a full sex-change operation, but I continue to believe the child should not undergo the treatment. I still don't think she is old enough to fully understand the implications, and if I'm reading this properly, she will be permanently behind her peers in terms of physical development which is obviously going to have an impact on her life and interactions with other children her age.

His. He is a boy. Please stop migendering children.

She is a girl until she is old enough to decide otherwise and fully understand the consequences. Please stop speaking nonsense.

[Shaggai]

His. He is a boy. Please stop migendering children.

She is a girl until she is old enough to decide otherwise and fully understand the consequences. Please stop speaking nonsense.

If he is not old enough to decide if he is a boy or a girl, why do you persist in referring to him as a girl?

[Rocopurr]

His. He is a boy. Please stop migendering children.

She is a girl until she is old enough to decide otherwise and fully understand the consequences. Please stop speaking nonsense.

Then I assume you believe that cisgendered children don't know their own gender and that calling them by the pronouns that match their gender is also nonsense, correct?

[Tsuntion]

That what's happened before? Someone has had a medical condition treated with medicine?

I don't know. There's none of this transgender stuff in the history books that I know of.

It's a strange condition, you must admit.

People outside the binary are noted in many historical cultures. Broad example. Another one. Here's a third. This is really not a new thing. Anywhere. Even down on the other side of the world. Are you getting the idea? And a final example from the 19th century.

[Iuronia]

She is a girl until she is old enough to decide otherwise and fully understand the consequences. Please stop speaking nonsense.

Then I assume you believe that cisgendered children don't know their own gender and that calling them by the pronouns that match their gender is also nonsense, correct?

Yea well, there is gender and there is sex. Sometimes, using the proper pronoun sex-wise is more appropriate.

[Bottle]

She is a girl until she is old enough to decide otherwise and fully understand the consequences. Please stop speaking nonsense.

Then I assume you believe that cisgendered children don't know their own gender and that calling them by the pronouns that match their gender is also nonsense, correct?

Personally, I find it creepy that we gender children in the first place. Neuter pronouns would be much more appropriate, in my opinion, we just don't have any in wide circulation.

[Souseiseki]

What "radical life-changing decision" are the doctors refusing to perform?

I misread the article. Puberty-blockers don't seem as radical as a full sex-change operation, but I continue to believe the child should not undergo the treatment. I still don't think she is old enough to fully understand the implications, and if I'm reading this properly, she will be permanently behind her peers in terms of physical development which is obviously going to have an impact on her life and interactions with other children her age.

permanently isn't the right word

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewforum.php?f=20
Actually, I did. I didn't see anything about a trans MP saying that the child is too young. Again: sauce or GTFO.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/ ... wrong-body

While the child's family are supportive, Georgina Beyer - the world's first openly transsexual Member of Parliament - questioned whether the child was old enough to make the decision.

"Decisions are being made that I consider quite serious and the natural inclination of this child should be nurtured and encouraged," Beyer said.

"I don't think a seven-year-old has enough life experience to understand precisely what they're doing. I think it's better a person gets to puberty and through puberty and then if this is continuing to develop . . . then yes, there is more of a case to be fought."

sometimes people get mad at all the kids getting the chances they never had. now i'm not saying this is the case here but

[Holocrystalline Dollies]

Then I assume you believe that cisgendered children don't know their own gender and that calling them by the pronouns that match their gender is also nonsense, correct?

Yea well, there is gender and there is sex. Sometimes, using the proper pronoun sex-wise is more appropriate.

Sure, until the child is capable of expressing what their gender is, which can occur at a very young age.

[Threlizdun]

Then I assume you believe that cisgendered children don't know their own gender and that calling them by the pronouns that match their gender is also nonsense, correct?

Yea well, there is gender and there is sex. Sometimes, using the proper pronoun sex-wise is more appropriate.

Adress someone by their sexual characteristics instead of their name next time you see them and see how that goes over. If you see someone whose sex is female, call address them as "you with the breasts" and see how appropriate that is.

[Rocopurr]

Then I assume you believe that cisgendered children don't know their own gender and that calling them by the pronouns that match their gender is also nonsense, correct?

Personally, I find it creepy that we gender children in the first place. Neuter pronouns would be much more appropriate, in my opinion, we just don't have any in wide circulation.

I prefer neutral pronouns, but I think that children can determine their own gender in most cases so I don't think using gendered pronouns are creepy.

[Coccygia]

Actually, I did. I didn't see anything about a trans MP saying that the child is too young. Again: sauce or GTFO.

Seriously... It didn't seem like a good idea to go back and check the OP again, just on the off chance that you missed it since everyone else seemed to realize it was there?

Linux, if you can't be troubled to look at the OP, here is the relevant quote:

While the child's family are supportive, Georgina Beyer - the world's first openly transsexual Member of Parliament - questioned whether the child was old enough to make the decision.

"Decisions are being made that I consider quite serious and the natural inclination of this child should be nurtured and encouraged," Beyer said.

"I don't think a seven-year-old has enough life experience to understand precisely what they're doing. I think it's better a person gets to puberty and through puberty and then if this is continuing to develop . . . then yes, there is more of a case to be fought."

Sauce.

So Linux, GTFO yourself.

[Linux and the X]

Seriously... It didn't seem like a good idea to go back and check the OP again, just on the off chance that you missed it since everyone else seemed to realize it was there?

Linux, if you can't be troubled to look at the OP, here is the relevant quote:

Again, I did look at the OP, but I misread the final paragraph as an addition by the poster, not a continuation of the quotation. Try actually reading the thread, maybe?

[Llamalandia]

Hmm, I have a simplistic, yet witty answer to this question: "If youre too young to consent to sex, then youre too young to consent to a sex change."

[Blasveck]

Hmm, I have a simplistic, yet witty answer to this question: "If youre too young to consent to sex, then youre too young to consent to a sex change."

Except that this isn't a sex change, if you'd read.

[Providence and Port Hope]

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[Llamalandia]

Hmm, I have a simplistic, yet witty answer to this question: "If youre too young to consent to sex, then youre too young to consent to a sex change."

Except that this isn't a sex change, if you'd read.

No i know, he's only asking for what hormone blockers right now, I was just answering to the title, not to the actual content of the OP, and I guess it wasn't so witty either, more just concise.

To be serious, yeah, I don't think that her expressing a male gender identity and delaying puberty is unreasonable (even for a 7 year old ). But also I seriously hope we don't get to a point where it becomes ok for a 7 yo to decide to have a full out sex change (and I do fear that in few years we could be talking about that.)

[Meritocratic States]

Now this is a difficult subject to talk about. Both sides of the argument has good points.

But for me, I would tell the kid to wait until he is old enough to understand the ramifications of the actions he is about to take.

[Luveria]

Now this is a difficult subject to talk about. Both sides of the argument has good points.

But for me, I would tell the kid to wait until he is old enough to understand the ramifications of the actions he is about to take.

That's why he's being put on blockers which are temporary and reversible... so he has a few more years to decide.

[Meritocratic States]

Now this is a difficult subject to talk about. Both sides of the argument has good points.

But for me, I would tell the kid to wait until he is old enough to understand the ramifications of the actions he is about to take.

That's why he's being put on blockers which are temporary and reversible... so he has a few more years to decide.

Well, I am glad they're doing that.

[Anachronous Rex]

Now this is a difficult subject to talk about. Both sides of the argument has good points.

But for me, I would tell the kid to wait until he is old enough to understand the ramifications of the actions he is about to take.

That's why he's being put on blockers which are temporary and reversible... so he has a few more years to decide.

It's almost as if no one has read the OP...

[Shaggai]

Now this is a difficult subject to talk about. Both sides of the argument has good points.

But for me, I would tell the kid to wait until he is old enough to understand the ramifications of the actions he is about to take.

That's why he's being put on blockers which are temporary and reversible... so he has a few more years to decide.

Also the blockers start in about two years. So even more time.

[Threlizdun]

Look, if that kid doesn't feel comfortable in their own body, that's her own problem, but I feel like this is a influence by the parents.

Just wondering, are the parents hetero, gay, or lesbian.

You honestly believe his parents are trying to push their child to be transgender? Really?

And no, it is not his own problem, but something his parents should accept and allow him to do what is necessary to make certain he does not have any major doubts about his male identity before going forward with future treatments. Their choice to try to get him on blockers is the best one they could have made.