Seven Year Old "Too Young" For Puberty Blockers

[The Grey Wolf]

I knew I was a boy when I was seven

We're not asking this girl any dfficult questions, and I'm sure the mother did not decide to take this action after just one episode. Apparently it got so bad the child actually wanted to die.

Why are you misgendering the child?

Because it's a she?

[Olthar]

So, fuck knowledge and experience; might means right?

Unfortunately, yes. If the parents choose a path of ignorance then I'd have to, lamentable, side with them. It's their right to do so. The professional, no matter his education, has no rights to their child.

You know, there's a reason why we have things like Child Services. Parents do not have complete domination over their kids, and they are legally required to care for their children or else risk losing them. Unlike you, I am not willing to condemn a child to a life of suffering just because they have horrible parents.

[The Grey Wolf]

i don't want doctors making decision for what is best with my kid, i am the parent, its my mistake to make

How arrogant and selfish of you. The well-being of your child is secondary to your ego? I pity your poor offspring and the inevitably terrible life they'll have.

How arrogant and selfish of you to think you have the right to decide what happens to another person's kid.

[Luveria]

Why are you misgendering the child?

Because it's a she?

He's a person. Not an "it". If you had read the OP, you would notice the child identifies as a male, and it's dickish to intentionally misgender a child of all people. It's bad enough when it's done to transgender adults.

[Tsuntion]

Why are you misgendering the child?

Because it's a she?

He has expressed his gender to be male.

[Luveria]

So, fuck knowledge and experience; might means right?

i don't want doctors making decision for what is best with my kid, i am the parent, its my mistake to make

Two words.

Faith healing.

[Souseiseki]

How arrogant and selfish of you. The well-being of your child is secondary to your ego? I pity your poor offspring and the inevitably terrible life they'll have.

How arrogant and selfish of you to think you have the right to decide what happens to another person's kid.

>implying society does not on a regular basis decide what happens to kids against the parents wishes

fake edit: you might learn this in school, where you will be forced to go if your parents can't teach you this themselves

[The Grey Wolf]

Because it's a she?

He's a person. Not an "it". If you had read the OP, you would notice the child identifies as a male, and it's dickish to intentionally misgender a child of all people. It's bad enough when it's done to transgender adults.

Wasn't referring to the child as an "it."
He is a she because like it or not, she has female genitalia and female body.

[Bob Campustan]

what kind of society even exists where gender identity is an issue that would even be within a 7 year olds purview let only the notion that gender can be reassigned through medical intervention?

Its not an "issue". Its how you feel. Your mind can just tell that it wants to be the opposite gender that your body was born as. (Maybe I just miss-read your comment)

[Olthar]

How arrogant and selfish of you. The well-being of your child is secondary to your ego? I pity your poor offspring and the inevitably terrible life they'll have.

How arrogant and selfish of you to think you have the right to decide what happens to another person's kid.

If I'm more willing and/or able to care for and support the child than their parents, then yes.

[The Tundra]

Unfortunately, yes. If the parents choose a path of ignorance then I'd have to, lamentable, side with them. It's their right to do so. The professional, no matter his education, has no rights to their child.

You know, there's a reason why we have things like Child Services. Parents do not have complete domination over their kids, and they are legally required to care for their children or else risk losing them. Unlike you, I am not willing to condemn a child to a life of suffering just because they have horrible parents.

hormone blocking isn't permanent, you just stop taking the the pills and you generally revert back to normal. there is plenty of time for the child to reverse her decisions.

its not like the penis inside out surgery

[Luveria]

How arrogant and selfish of you. The well-being of your child is secondary to your ego? I pity your poor offspring and the inevitably terrible life they'll have.

How arrogant and selfish of you to think you have the right to decide what happens to another person's kid.

Yeah, fuck child protection services. It's a parents right to abuse their children. No one should have any say in what happens to another person's child.

He's a person. Not an "it". If you had read the OP, you would notice the child identifies as a male, and it's dickish to intentionally misgender a child of all people. It's bad enough when it's done to transgender adults.

Wasn't referring to the child as an "it."
He is a she because like it or not, she has female genitalia and female body.

Do you get something out of being so ignorant about gender? Does it make you feel good about yourself to be malicious to people who already get shit all over by society every day?

http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/transgender.aspx

Gender identity refers to a person’s internal sense of being male, female, or something else

But if you feel so highly qualified to dismiss psychiatrists, go right ahead. That makes you no different than a flat earther who dismisses the claims of scientists who would know better.

[Olthar]

He's a person. Not an "it". If you had read the OP, you would notice the child identifies as a male, and it's dickish to intentionally misgender a child of all people. It's bad enough when it's done to transgender adults.

Wasn't referring to the child as an "it."
He is a she because like it or not, she has female genitalia and female body.

He is a he because that is what he desires to be called.

[Tsuntion]

He's a person. Not an "it". If you had read the OP, you would notice the child identifies as a male, and it's dickish to intentionally misgender a child of all people. It's bad enough when it's done to transgender adults.

Wasn't referring to the child as an "it."
He is a she because like it or not, she has female genitalia and female body.

You said "it's a she". "It's a she" means "the child is a she". Thus, "it" means "the child". You were absolutely calling him an it.

Unless you are intending to do anything to those genitalia, which I certainly hope you aren't, they are of no relevance and he is a he because his brain is a he brain.

[The Tundra]

i don't want doctors making decision for what is best with my kid, i am the parent, its my mistake to make

Two words.

Faith healing.

relying on faith healing is like betting all your money on 31 black on a Roulette table

[Distruzio]

Unfortunately, yes. If the parents choose a path of ignorance then I'd have to, lamentable, side with them. It's their right to do so. The professional, no matter his education, has no rights to their child.

You know, there's a reason why we have things like Child Services. Parents do not have complete domination over their kids, and they are legally required to care for their children or else risk losing them. Unlike you, I am not willing to condemn a child to a life of suffering just because they have horrible parents.

Indeed. And where neglectful parents fail in their responsibility, CP should intervene. However, the children do not have dominion over themselves yet. Neither does the government possess complete dominion over the parents. I'm not willing to dismiss the parents out of hand because I disagree with their parenting style.

[The Grey Wolf]

Wasn't referring to the child as an "it."
He is a she because like it or not, she has female genitalia and female body.

He is a he because that is what he desires to be called.

Well that's nice, but living in a fantasy world shouldn't affect reality.

[Olthar]

You know, there's a reason why we have things like Child Services. Parents do not have complete domination over their kids, and they are legally required to care for their children or else risk losing them. Unlike you, I am not willing to condemn a child to a life of suffering just because they have horrible parents.

hormone blocking isn't permanent, you just stop taking the the pills and you generally revert back to normal. there is plenty of time for the child to reverse her decisions.

its not like the penis inside out surgery

Um...did you quote the wrong person?

[Tsuntion]

Two words.

Faith healing.

relying on faith healing is like betting all your money on 31 black on a Roulette table

Do you think that parents should be allowed to forgo medical treatment for their child in favor of faith healing?

If so, you contribute to child illness and death.
If not, you think the parent does not always get to decide.

[Luveria]

He is a he because that is what he desires to be called.

Well that's nice, but living in a fantasy world shouldn't affect reality.

You're the one living in a fantasy world in which the APA and other psychiatry organizations are wrong because you said so.

http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/transgender.aspx

Gender identity refers to a person’s internal sense of being male, female, or something else

[Distruzio]

Unfortunately, yes. If the parents choose a path of ignorance then I'd have to, lamentable, side with them. It's their right to do so. The professional, no matter his education, has no rights to their child.

You realize that denying blockers to a transgender child is child abuse?

No. I didn't. If that be the case, then I'd favor CP involvement over a parent's right to their child.

[The Grey Wolf]

Wasn't referring to the child as an "it."
He is a she because like it or not, she has female genitalia and female body.

You said "it's a she". "It's a she" means "the child is a she". Thus, "it" means "the child". You were absolutely calling him an it.

Not in the way they were thinking of.

[The Tundra]

hormone blocking isn't permanent, you just stop taking the the pills and you generally revert back to normal. there is plenty of time for the child to reverse her decisions.

its not like the penis inside out surgery

Um...did you quote the wrong person?

well, from what i'm gleaning from your conversation, you are against the parents because you think hormone treatments are permanent

[Distruzio]

Unfortunately, yes. If the parents choose a path of ignorance then I'd have to, lamentable, side with them. It's their right to do so. The professional, no matter his education, has no rights to their child.

actually there are various times when professionals do have right to tell parents to fuck off in the paths they choose for their children and while this might be a bit troublesome to argue denying medical treatment counts. well, unless you're religious of course, then you can just let your kid fucking die of cancer and the law won't give two shits.

Would the case in question be considered one of those times?

[Luveria]

You realize that denying blockers to a transgender child is child abuse?

No. I didn't. If that be the case, then I'd favor CP involvement over a parent's right to their child.

Unfortunately it's not legally considered that, and it causes a lot of problems for children and teens who wish they could go on blockers but their parents won't let them. Denying any child medical treatments is child abuse. Even more so when it comes down to a parent attempting to force their child to live as a gender they aren't.