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Is it anti-Semitic and/or anti-Islam?

Yes
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16%
No
164
59%
Yes but only Islam
58
21%
Yes but only Judaism
10
4%
 
Total votes : 277

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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:39 pm

Ifreann wrote:Europe is a place with about 740 million people in 50 different countries. I don't believe we're anywhere near homogeneous enough to say either way on either question.

You are a sexnation, your argument is invalid

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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:39 pm

Nothing overt, though countries in Europe seem to have a habit of going extremely secular in the face of rising minority religious groups.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:40 pm

Spartan Philidelphia wrote:From what I've seen on Nationstates, there is at least a good vocal minority of anti-Islamism in Europe.

Yes I am anti-Islam, do not confuse that with being prejudiced.
In much the same way I'm anti-Scientology.
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Postby Norstal » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:41 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So you don't have any sources or citations at all?
Hell of a way to start a thread.

My opinion, I could be wrong. I don't need evidence for personal experience and what I've seen over the years.

I saw a bunch of anti-semites and anti-Islamic in NSG from Europe. Clearly, Europe is anti-Semite and anti-islamic.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:43 pm

greed and death wrote:Nothing overt, though countries in Europe seem to have a habit of going extremely secular in the face of rising minority religious groups.

It can be viewed as anti-Islamic in nature.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:43 pm

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Postby Mefpan » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:44 pm

I'm pretty sure Europe at large has no problem with Jews or Muslims. There are a few nuts around, but that's the case for every place there is; search for long enough and you'll eventually find someone willing to loudly proclaim his support for [INSERT ETHNIC OR RELIGIOUS GROUP HERE] to be thrown out of [INSERT COUNTRY HERE] because of [INSERT FALLACIOUS, BIGOTED REASON HERE].

But I really, really hope you're not basing the idea of an anti-semitic Europe around the fact that most people in Europe aren't quite fond of the Middle-Eastern fuckfest centered around a strip of land marked as designated holy zone for an unreasonably large number of religions.
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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:45 pm

Norstal wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:My opinion, I could be wrong. I don't need evidence for personal experience and what I've seen over the years.

I saw a bunch of anti-semites and anti-Islamic in NSG from Europe. Clearly, Europe is anti-Semite and anti-islamic.

I asked your opinion, not for you to bitch about my beliefs.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:46 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Norstal wrote:I saw a bunch of anti-semites and anti-Islamic in NSG from Europe. Clearly, Europe is anti-Semite and anti-islamic.

I asked your opinion, not for you to bitch about my beliefs.

Which have no backing by the way.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:47 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Europe is a place with about 740 million people in 50 different countries. I don't believe we're anywhere near homogeneous enough to say either way on either question.

You are a sexnation, your argument is invalid

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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:48 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:I asked your opinion, not for you to bitch about my beliefs.

Which have no backing by the way.

Personal experiences need no "sources."

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:48 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Yes.

You're just mad that we're not anti-Hindu.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:49 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Which have no backing by the way.

Personal experiences need no "sources."

Their certainly not worth much.

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Postby Charmicarmicat » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:50 pm

Given that the proposition that children be allowed to mature to the point where they are capable of making rational decisions before being mutilated spurred outrage and allegations of racism from Jews I don't think I'm going to significantly regard reports of antisemitism in Europe unless I see satanic rituals attempting to raise Hitler and his pals from the dead.
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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:50 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:Personal experiences need no "sources."

Their certainly not worth much.

Opinions are not facts and have no sources

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:51 pm

Charmicarmicat wrote:Given that the proposition that children be allowed to mature to the point where they are capable of making rational decisions before being mutilated spurred outrage and allegations of racism from Jews I don't think I'm going to significantly regard reports of antisemitism in Europe unless I see satanic rituals attempting to raise Hitler and his pals from the dead.

:rofl: You got a laugh out of me. Have a cookie.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:51 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Yes.

You're just mad that we're not anti-Hindu.

I actually thought the title said "or" instead of "and/or", so I decided to be a failed smartass.

Really, Europe is too complex to narrow down to such viewpoints. Some areas are anti-Semitic and anti-Islamic, some aren't. Hell, some (like Albania) are actually Muslim-majority.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:51 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Which have no backing by the way.

Personal experiences need no "sources."


Personal experiences and sources are two different things. If you're going to post a personal experience, which is fine, at least post a source backing up your claims.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:52 pm

The Hell are you talking about? There is no government discrimination against Jews or Muslims in Europe.

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:52 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So you don't have any sources or citations at all?
Hell of a way to start a thread.

My opinion, I could be wrong. I don't need evidence for personal experience and what I've seen over the years.


Yeah, but for all we know, you could just be making shit up.

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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:53 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:The Hell are you talking about? There is no government discrimination against Jews or Muslims in Europe.


People do discriminate against muslims in Europe, just because the government doesn't it doesn't mean the people follow the same path as their government.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:53 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:The Hell are you talking about? There is no government discrimination against Jews or Muslims in Europe.

So Switzerland banning minarets is a law that never happened.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:53 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:My opinion, I could be wrong. I don't need evidence for personal experience and what I've seen over the years.


Yeah, but for all we know, you could just be making shit up.

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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:53 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:Personal experiences need no "sources."


Personal experiences and sources are two different things. If you're going to post a personal experience, which is fine, at least post a source backing up your claims.

But this is based off of my personal opinions. Me saying, "I believe Eastern Europe is anti-Semitic" is different that, "Eastern Europe is anti-Semitic."

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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:54 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Personal experiences and sources are two different things. If you're going to post a personal experience, which is fine, at least post a source backing up your claims.

But this is based off of my personal opinions. Me saying, "I believe Eastern Europe is anti-Semitic" is different that, "Eastern Europe is anti-Semitic."


I know, I'm just pointing out that personal experiences and sources are two different things.
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