Ban Male Genital Mutiliation, says European Council

[The Independent Isle of Wight]

A vaccine has very real positive effects, rather than an unlikely chance of not having a negative effect.

loads of times kids get sick because of vaccines.

That's why such a huge amount of research and studying goes into them, to ensure the benefit outweighs the risks.

[Indira]

A vaccine has very real positive effects, rather than an unlikely chance of not having a negative effect.

loads of times kids get sick because of vaccines.

Source? Oh and relatively few adverse reactions still fail to put it in the same category

[Farnhamia]

Yes, Islam is the biggest circumcising religion there is. And this is the hadith passage from Saheeh Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 72, Number 779.


Yep, this passage is why 70% of the circumcisions are done to Muslims.

I think he was more expressing confusion at your terms.

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...I have no skin (as it were) in this game...

Boo!

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Essentially. Why most Christians still circumcise their kids penises, I do not know.

Most Christians don't. An awful lot of Americans do, largely because it's traditional. I've heard that the practice originated in an attempt to prevent boys and young men from masturbating, but I couldn't swear to it.

If that's true, it didn't work very well, now did it?

[Ifreann]

The hood of the clitoris performs a similar glide function to that of the foreskin. (I'm sure you've felt the benefit of it)

And the frenelum, the uber-sensitive part of the penis which you lose in most circumcisions is often referred to as the male g-spot.

Can confirm, that shit's sensitive. Least I got that.

I just don't know who got it in their heads that this was ever really a good idea.

Early attempts at being hygienic, perhaps?

[Orangi]

I think he was more expressing confusion at your terms.

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Boo!

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Most Christians don't. An awful lot of Americans do, largely because it's traditional. I've heard that the practice originated in an attempt to prevent boys and young men from masturbating, but I couldn't swear to it.

If that's true, it didn't work very well, now did it?

Can validate that it does not prevent.

Can confirm, that shit's sensitive. Least I got that.

I just don't know who got it in their heads that this was ever really a good idea.

Early attempts at being hygienic, perhaps?

See that argument has some merit maybe 1,000 years ago.

But let's be frank. Areas capable of cutting off skin of your new son's willie are equally capable of bathing. Shit's there for a reason.

Like the religious argument never got me. Say for instance god made us in his image right?

Wouldn't be removing part of it be defiling that image and thus sacrilege? Like, really.

[Vazdania]

loads of times kids get sick because of vaccines.

Source? Oh and relatively few adverse reactions still fail to put it in the same category

BAM Look at the vaccine you want.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm

[Farnhamia]

Can confirm, that shit's sensitive. Least I got that.

I just don't know who got it in their heads that this was ever really a good idea.

Early attempts at being hygienic, perhaps?

Perhaps. It is true that foreskins were collected from dead enemies on the battlefield in order to show how many were killed. Surrendering yours to a deity would be a measure of your submission to said being, I suppose. Never have understood it.

[The Independent Isle of Wight]

Can confirm, that shit's sensitive. Least I got that.

I just don't know who got it in their heads that this was ever really a good idea.

Early attempts at being hygienic, perhaps?

Yeah. All the rules about kosher food can basically be explained as animals that were either unhygienic to raise or whose meats go off quickly (like the bizzare inclusion of Skate).

[Vazdania]

loads of times kids get sick because of vaccines.

That's why such a huge amount of research and studying goes into them, to ensure the benefit outweighs the risks.

same with circumcision I bet.

[Luveria]

Most Christians don't. An awful lot of Americans do, largely because it's traditional. I've heard that the practice originated in an attempt to prevent boys and young men from masturbating, but I couldn't swear to it.

John Harvey Kellogg (yeah, the cereal guy), was a very strong advocate of circumcising boys, teens, and young adults, and girls too to prevent them from masturbation.

[Tlaceceyaya]

That's why such a huge amount of research and studying goes into them, to ensure the benefit outweighs the risks.

same with circumcision I bet.

You'd bet wrong.

[Ifreann]

I think he was more expressing confusion at your terms.

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Boo!

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Most Christians don't. An awful lot of Americans do, largely because it's traditional. I've heard that the practice originated in an attempt to prevent boys and young men from masturbating, but I couldn't swear to it.

If that's true, it didn't work very well, now did it?

Either that or the US porn industry has found a way to summon money from alternate realities.

[Vazdania]

Early attempts at being hygienic, perhaps?

Yeah. All the rules about kosher food can basically be explained as animals that were either unhygienic to raise or whose meats go off quickly (like the bizzare inclusion of Skate).

SOURCE.

[Indira]

Source? Oh and relatively few adverse reactions still fail to put it in the same category

BAM Look at the vaccine you want.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm

Given that the majority of them are both minor and/or applied to specific groups of ADULTS, your argument fails. Again

[The Serbian Empire]

Unfortunately, one of the groups practicing the barbaric religious tradition is also the group who has terrorized anyone who confronts Islam as barbaric or backwards. That would be radical Islam and they have even resorted to assassinating critics of Islam at times as seen with movie director Theo van Gogh having been assassinated by Mohammed Bouyeri, a Dutch-Moroccan Muslim. The Islamists (Fundamentalist Muslims) aren't exactly reasonable and will even resort to assassination to silence opposition to Sharia law. Guess what is in one of the hadiths, circumcision is deemed as mandated by the hadiths.

That's weird. You started your post with "Unfortunately", but I get the distinct impression that you actually delight in this opportunity to mention "Islamists".

I am delighted in sharing my knowledge on the matter of the hadiths, but at the same time troubled deeply by the actions of these Islamists and their sympathizers.

[The Independent Isle of Wight]

Yeah. All the rules about kosher food can basically be explained as animals that were either unhygienic to raise or whose meats go off quickly (like the bizzare inclusion of Skate).

SOURCE.

That's just my theory, I don't care much about it, but pig shit is awful and seafood goes off right?
And eating milk and meat together makes you bunged up.

[Farnhamia]

Most Christians don't. An awful lot of Americans do, largely because it's traditional. I've heard that the practice originated in an attempt to prevent boys and young men from masturbating, but I couldn't swear to it.

John Harvey Kellogg (yeah, the cereal guy), was a very strong advocate of circumcising boys, teens, and young adults, and girls too to prevent them from masturbation.

Someone should speak to him.

[Vazdania]

SOURCE.

That's just my theory, I don't care much about it, but pig shit is awful and seafood goes off right?
And eating milk and meat together makes you bunged up.

There are things associated with Kashrut that have no apparent hygienic or healthy benefits. You saying that it was for hygienic purposes only is wrong.

[Orangi]

John Harvey Kellogg (yeah, the cereal guy), was a very strong advocate of circumcising boys, teens, and young adults, and girls too to prevent them from masturbation.

Someone should speak to him.

Probably more about his pent up sexual frustration that he feels the need to take out on others because he never got off.

Masturbation. It's GRRRRREEEAAT!

[Tlaceceyaya]

That's just my theory, I don't care much about it, but pig shit is awful and seafood goes off right?
And eating milk and meat together makes you bunged up.

There are things associated with Kashrut that have no apparent hygienic or healthy benefits. You saying that it was for hygienic purposes only is wrong.

He didn't say that it was for those purposes only.

[Vazdania]

There are things associated with Kashrut that have no apparent hygienic or healthy benefits. You saying that it was for hygienic purposes only is wrong.

He didn't say that it was for those purposes only.

quite true.

[The Serbian Empire]

John Harvey Kellogg (yeah, the cereal guy), was a very strong advocate of circumcising boys, teens, and young adults, and girls too to prevent them from masturbation.

Someone should speak to him.

He's been dead for a long time. We're approaching on the 70th anniversary of Mr. Kellogg's death on December 14th.

[Farnhamia]

Someone should speak to him.

He's been dead for a long time. We're approaching on the 70th anniversary of Mr. Kellogg's death on December 14th.

No excuse. This would be a perfect time to have a discussion with him.

[Norstal]

Source? Oh and relatively few adverse reactions still fail to put it in the same category

BAM Look at the vaccine you want.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm

Any vaccine can cause side effects. For the most part these are minor (for example, a sore arm or low-grade fever) and go away within a few days.

OH MY FUCKING GOD A SORE ARM

WE MUST BAN LE VACCINES NAOW!

diarrhea (about 1 person in 10)
fever (about 1 person in 100)
Severe Problems

More serious problems have been reported by about 1 person in 100, within 6 months of vaccination. These problems included:

blood in the urine or stool
pneumonia
inflammation of the stomach or intestines

Clearly 1 in 100 and 1 in 10 is such a stastically signficant amount of ratio that we must deem the argument "loads", loads being an unknown but gargantuan amount of number, of kids getting sick as a valid...nah, just kidding, that doesn't fit your argument at all.

[The Independent Isle of Wight]

He didn't say that it was for those purposes only.

quite true.

Rituals that make no sense are less likely to survive than ones which offer earthly benefits.