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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:02 pm

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Our cultural institutions are rooted in Great Britain or the English colonists.

The ethnicity of the people who later came to utilize these institutions is irrelevant, as they barely made any changes to them, and kept them largely as they were.

They did assimilate. The fact that the vast majority of Americans of German descent speak entirely English and not a lick of German kinda proves they assimilated.

Well, linguistically anyway.


And culturally. What elements of German, especially French culture (outside of Louisiana) are prevalent in American culture today?

This could be tricky as English culture and German culture were already pretty similar to begin with.
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:02 pm

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Empire of Vlissingen wrote:In the Netherlands you have to learn at least on foreign language, and we spend 4,000,000,000 every year for forrign aid.

In the US too, to graduate highschool I think, or it might be to get into college, I'm not sure.

It's even in secondary school after school for childen beteen 6-13 here,
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Postby Pacifornia » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:04 pm

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Pacifornia wrote:Niggas? Like it's in a foreigner's blood to destroy everything. I'm Hispanic and the son of a border hopper and visa carrier (both gained citizenship and work like hell). I don't gangbang and tag freeway overpasses. Stereotypes don't apply to everyone ;)


Hispanic!!! :hug:

I am also hispanic, I don't think these stereotypes are fair when imposed on me (also I am Salvadorean, which you must know Pacifornia, about the gangs from El Salvador, but yet I am not like them at all).

As for the OP: umm... really?! Multiculturalism is a good thing if only because it exposes you to a different view of the world you live in. It is awesome the ways being from outside the US has influenced my perspective.

My dad came in the 80s, when the maras were just a small crew in LA. Now they make migrants' journey's hell with all the rapes, murders and robberies on the trains in Mexico.
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Postby Mushet » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:04 pm

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Empire of Vlissingen wrote:In the Netherlands you have to learn at least on foreign language, and we spend 4,000,000,000 every year for forrign aid.

In the US too, to graduate highschool I think, or it might be to get into college, I'm not sure.

Not really but foreign languages are a common elective, cuz like all the high schools offer them and they're reccomended.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:05 pm

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Wytenigistan wrote:Well, linguistically anyway.

The majority of White Americans are of german descent but you don't really see them doing German shit.

I don't see them doing British shit either. Besides speaking English.
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:05 pm

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Wytenigistan wrote:In the US too, to graduate highschool I think, or it might be to get into college, I'm not sure.

Not really but foreign languages are a common elective, cuz like all the high schools offer them and they're reccomended.


I'm going to be finished with Spanish by the end of this year (I'm a junior). So next year, my choices are French, Mandarin, Latin, or free period.

I'm leaning towards free period.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:06 pm

Mushet wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:In the US too, to graduate highschool I think, or it might be to get into college, I'm not sure.

Not really but foreign languages are a common elective, cuz like all the high schools offer them and they're reccomended.

Most 4 year schools you need 2 to 3 years of a foreign language.
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:06 pm

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Mushet wrote:The majority of White Americans are of german descent but you don't really see them doing German shit.

I don't see them doing British shit either. Besides speaking English.


And using and taking part in English institutions, like our legal system, and our collegiate/university system. Pretty much all of the Ivy Leagues were founded by Anglos.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:07 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Mushet wrote:Not really but foreign languages are a common elective, cuz like all the high schools offer them and they're reccomended.


I'm going to be finished with Spanish by the end of this year (I'm a junior). So next year, my choices are French, Mandarin, Latin, or free period.

I'm leaning towards free period.

Mandarin could be useful. Then again school probably isn't the best way to learn it.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:07 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:I don't see them doing British shit either. Besides speaking English.


And using and taking part in English institutions, like our legal system, and our collegiate/university system. Pretty much all of the Ivy Leagues were founded by Anglos.

That doesn't really make it British shit per say, or it does but only partially.
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Postby The Seafield Islands » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:08 pm

It's multi-culturalism.

Yes it is great. My nation is a multi-cultural one.
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:09 pm

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And using and taking part in English institutions, like our legal system, and our collegiate/university system. Pretty much all of the Ivy Leagues were founded by Anglos.

That doesn't really make it British shit per say, or it does but only partially.


We aren't British. We're American. However, Great Britain is the country that has had the largest political, economic, and cultural impact on our country.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:11 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:Well, linguistically anyway.


And culturally. What elements of German, especially French culture (outside of Louisiana) are prevalent in American culture today?

This could be tricky as English culture and German culture were already pretty similar to begin with.

Well for one they are usually the only languages offered besides Latin, except in places where there are large numbers of Hispanic immigrants.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:13 pm

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Wytenigistan wrote:That doesn't really make it British shit per say, or it does but only partially.


We aren't British. We're American. However, Great Britain is the country that has had the largest political, economic, and cultural impact on our country.

I'm not debating the political or economic influence. Although I may debate the economic influence depending on how lazy I feel.
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:18 pm

Wytenigistan wrote:
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We aren't British. We're American. However, Great Britain is the country that has had the largest political, economic, and cultural impact on our country.

I'm not debating the political or economic influence. Although I may debate the economic influence depending on how lazy I feel.


Free market Capitalism. Stock markets. Our national banks throughout our history.

All originating from Great Britain.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:19 pm

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Hispanic!!! :hug:

I am also hispanic, I don't think these stereotypes are fair when imposed on me (also I am Salvadorean, which you must know Pacifornia, about the gangs from El Salvador, but yet I am not like them at all).

As for the OP: umm... really?! Multiculturalism is a good thing if only because it exposes you to a different view of the world you live in. It is awesome the ways being from outside the US has influenced my perspective.

On shit it's MS13!!!


:meh:

Wut did yu just call me? :p
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:20 pm

Pacifornia wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Hispanic!!! :hug:

I am also hispanic, I don't think these stereotypes are fair when imposed on me (also I am Salvadorean, which you must know Pacifornia, about the gangs from El Salvador, but yet I am not like them at all).

As for the OP: umm... really?! Multiculturalism is a good thing if only because it exposes you to a different view of the world you live in. It is awesome the ways being from outside the US has influenced my perspective.

My dad came in the 80s, when the maras were just a small crew in LA. Now they make migrants' journey's hell with all the rapes, murders and robberies on the trains in Mexico.


You should see what they do back in El Salvador... The Salvadoran government has had to, basically, make them a terrorist group.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:21 pm

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Nope.

I am fine with it being Lingua Franca, thank you.


It's the official language of 28 states.


State =/ Federal.
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Postby Pacifornia » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:23 pm

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Pacifornia wrote:My dad came in the 80s, when the maras were just a small crew in LA. Now they make migrants' journey's hell with all the rapes, murders and robberies on the trains in Mexico.


You should see what they do back in El Salvador... The Salvadoran government has had to, basically, make them a terrorist group.

I ain't going back to Central America until the governments wake up and stop with the corruption bull. But a man can dream :(
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Postby The Gaelic Kingdoms of Britain » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:24 pm

Multiculturalism...Not my favorite ideology. I shall leave it at that.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:28 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:On shit it's MS13!!!


:meh:

Wut did yu just call me? :p

Lol it did originate in El Salvador though...right?
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Postby The Legion of War » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:28 pm

GrandKirche wrote:Multiculturalism is fine, as long as it's accompanied by the principle that you still have to obey the law. Own food, religion etc ok, breaking laws on human rights, please go home.

This. This is just common sense OP.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:29 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:I'm not debating the political or economic influence. Although I may debate the economic influence depending on how lazy I feel.


Free market Capitalism. Stock markets. Our national banks throughout our history.

All originating from Great Britain.

I gues the idea of stock markets is technically British in origin but its a bit like saying firearms are Chinese because the invented gunpowder.
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Postby Skeckoa » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:39 pm

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Skeckoa wrote:The Americas are the epitome of multi-culturalism, especially California. I can only imagine Mr. Dutch here living in a continent that has not had a substantial influx of foreigners since the Moors came from Spain and the Ottomans ravaged through the Balkans.

Us is a melting pot. It's different.

I am aware. That's what I was pointing to. I just may never understand the Old World and it's rampant battle to retain its culture.
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Postby Vilkavis » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:54 pm

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Liriena wrote:The Kurdish situation is not even remotely similar to the situation in European countries with growing foreign ethnic minorities. Not to mention the fact that the birth rates of foreign immigrants have already began to drop, and though first-generation foreign ethnic minorities do often have trouble peacefully integrating, the following generations seldom have much trouble, so long as the state tries to assimilate them, instead of segregate them.


Where in Europe do you live? I live in the Netherlands, where the second and third generation of Moroccans are worse than the first. The fourth and the fifth are growing up now, and they don't look promising. A sociologist - left wing scum - asked a classroom in an inner city who among them thought homosexuality was unacceptable. All Muslim kids raised their hands.


First generation are fine? Yeah, that seems about right. It's not the first generation immigrants, it's the second or third or whatever. It's a youth problem, not an immigration problem. Unchecked racism doesn't do much to keep immigrant youths from matching stereotypes. Stereotypes are self-perpetuating.
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