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Postby Saiwania » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:45 pm

Mushet wrote:Look up those cities on the map, set the map to the racial/ethnic groups map and look at the color coded ethnic enclaves, I live in a miles long group of continuous barrios that go from South Glendale to North Irvine, LA is segregated.


I live in a suburb that is 90% White, I'm disturbed by the fact though, that the White share of the population immediately drops to 75% or lower in the areas surrounding the suburb I am in. It is clear to me that I will need to move but chances are, wherever I move to will have the same problem I am trying to flee from.
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:45 pm

Pacifornia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Cool.

This is my neighbor:

Mexican first, citizen of Aztlan second, Californian third, American last.


I speak better Spanish and know more about Mexican culture than he does. :palm:

Honestly, I can't stand the Mecha, aztlan folks. Frikkin racist and ignorant. I balance out the American and Hispanic side, just a little more on the US side.


They just can't get over a war they lost, and that had a large role in starting.

They seem to believe it was "Evil America rapes the innocent little Mexico".
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:45 pm

Mushet wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
1. English :palm:
2. A legal system based upon Civil law (the Anglosphere and a few African nations are the only countries that use civil law, as opposed to common law)
3. The Declaration of Independence and Constitution were pretty much created entirely by British Americans
4. The Special Relationship
5. Traditional ruling elite, the WASP (White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant)
6. We used to be a British colony


Need I go on?

Constitution had a lot of influence from Haudenosaunee, but yeah, most of those.

So the Anglosaxons are only English people?
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:46 pm

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Pacifornia wrote:Honestly, I can't stand the Mecha, aztlan folks. Frikkin racist and ignorant. I balance out the American and Hispanic side, just a little more on the US side.

I know plenty, a lot are cool, some are not, I like the ones that get more into being indigenous, even associate themselves with Indians from north of the border, but there are all types, they tend to get a bad image as a whole because of the loud obnoxious Mexica Movement.


I can respect the Indian identity in it, but reclaiming the Southwest for Mexico is just beyond stupid.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:48 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:How is American culture Anglo dominated?


1. English :palm:
2. A legal system based upon Civil law (the Anglosphere and a few African nations are the only countries that use civil law, as opposed to common law)
3. The Declaration of Independence and Constitution were pretty much created entirely by British Americans
4. The Special Relationship
5. Traditional ruling elite, the WASP (White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant)
6. We used to be a British colony


Need I go on?

Culturally though there is a lot of German and French influence. I mean I guess we are closest to the UK because we speak English, but only at first glance, and we don't actually have an official language (although I'm in favor of making English our official)
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:48 pm

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:
Mushet wrote:Constitution had a lot of influence from Haudenosaunee, but yeah, most of those.

So the Anglosaxons are only English people?


Anglo (or Anglo-Saxon) is often regarded these days as a synonym for British people (or at the very least English people). It has little to do with the Anglo-Saxon tribes.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:48 pm

Pacifornia wrote:
Empire of Vlissingen wrote:A disgrace.

The Netherlands used to be the best and one of richest nation in the world,
The Arabs and Niggas don't adapt to our Country. Marrocans are five times more criminal than natives.
I applied for a job at a local supermarket i was not accepted East Europeans and other Immigrants Took my job and
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Niggas? Like it's in a foreigner's blood to destroy everything. I'm Hispanic and the son of a border hopper and visa carrier (both gained citizenship and work like hell). I don't gangbang and tag freeway overpasses. Stereotypes don't apply to everyone ;)


Hispanic!!! :hug:

I am also hispanic, I don't think these stereotypes are fair when imposed on me (also I am Salvadorean, which you must know Pacifornia, about the gangs from El Salvador, but yet I am not like them at all).

As for the OP: umm... really?! Multiculturalism is a good thing if only because it exposes you to a different view of the world you live in. It is awesome the ways being from outside the US has influenced my perspective.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:49 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Mushet wrote:Look up those cities on the map, set the map to the racial/ethnic groups map and look at the color coded ethnic enclaves, I live in a miles long group of continuous barrios that go from South Glendale to North Irvine, LA is segregated.


I live in a suburb that is 90% White, I'm disturbed by the fact though, that the White share of the population immediately drops to 75% or lower in the areas surrounding the suburb I am in. It is clear to me that I will need to move but chances are, wherever I move to will have the same problem I am trying to flee from.

75% is still quite high.
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:49 pm

Wytenigistan wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
1. English :palm:
2. A legal system based upon Civil law (the Anglosphere and a few African nations are the only countries that use civil law, as opposed to common law)
3. The Declaration of Independence and Constitution were pretty much created entirely by British Americans
4. The Special Relationship
5. Traditional ruling elite, the WASP (White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant)
6. We used to be a British colony


Need I go on?

Culturally though there is a lot of German and French influence. I mean I guess we are closest to the UK because we speak English, but only at first glance, and we don't actually have an official language (although I'm in favor of making English our official)


Almost every state has English listed as its official language. Those German and French immigrants pretty much became part of the Anglo culture through intermarriage and cultural assimilation. In fact, a large part of the WASP elite was made up of people of German or Dutch descent.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:49 pm

Wytenigistan wrote:although I'm in favor of making English our official


Nope.

I am fine with it being Lingua Franca, thank you.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:49 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Pacifornia wrote:Niggas? Like it's in a foreigner's blood to destroy everything. I'm Hispanic and the son of a border hopper and visa carrier (both gained citizenship and work like hell). I don't gangbang and tag freeway overpasses. Stereotypes don't apply to everyone ;)


Hispanic!!! :hug:

I am also hispanic, I don't think these stereotypes are fair when imposed on me (also I am Salvadorean, which you must know Pacifornia, about the gangs from El Salvador, but yet I am not like them at all).

As for the OP: umm... really?! Multiculturalism is a good thing if only because it exposes you to a different view of the world you live in. It is awesome the ways being from outside the US has influenced my perspective.

On shit it's MS13!!!
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:50 pm

Mushet wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
1. English :palm:
2. A legal system based upon Civil law (the Anglosphere and a few African nations are the only countries that use civil law, as opposed to common law)
3. The Declaration of Independence and Constitution were pretty much created entirely by British Americans
4. The Special Relationship
5. Traditional ruling elite, the WASP (White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant)
6. We used to be a British colony


Need I go on?

Constitution had a lot of influence from Haudenosaunee, but yeah, most of those.


Apparently the Iroquois Confederacy served as a model of sorts for American federalism, but the Iroquois themselves really didn't create the institution of American federalism.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:50 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:although I'm in favor of making English our official


Nope.

I am fine with it being Lingua Franca, thank you.

I'm not opposed to you having a different opinion than me...
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:51 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:although I'm in favor of making English our official


Nope.

I am fine with it being Lingua Franca, thank you.


It's the official language of 28 states.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:52 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:Culturally though there is a lot of German and French influence. I mean I guess we are closest to the UK because we speak English, but only at first glance, and we don't actually have an official language (although I'm in favor of making English our official)


Almost every state has English listed as its official language. Those German and French immigrants pretty much became part of the Anglo culture through intermarriage and cultural assimilation. In fact, a large part of the WASP elite was made up of people of German or Dutch descent.

Yeah that's why I think it's more west euro than specifically Anglo. I'm not sure about the assimilation, I think they more or less both assimilated with each other.
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Postby Mushet » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:54 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Mushet wrote:I know plenty, a lot are cool, some are not, I like the ones that get more into being indigenous, even associate themselves with Indians from north of the border, but there are all types, they tend to get a bad image as a whole because of the loud obnoxious Mexica Movement.


I can respect the Indian identity in it, but reclaiming the Southwest for Mexico is just beyond stupid.

Even the stupid ones I know don't believe in that, don't think I met anyone that did. I know people that use Aztlan as a metaphor.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:54 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nope.

I am fine with it being Lingua Franca, thank you.


It's the official language of 28 states.

It should be in all 50. I like states rights and all but I think there is a point at which it would be better off under federal law.
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Postby Spartan Philidelphia » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:57 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:How is American culture Anglo dominated?


1. English :palm:
2. A legal system based upon Civil law (the Anglosphere and a few African nations are the only countries that use civil law, as opposed to common law)
3. The Declaration of Independence and Constitution were pretty much created entirely by British Americans
4. The Special Relationship
5. Traditional ruling elite, the WASP (White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant)
6. We used to be a British colony


Need I go on?


Just a correction. I believe that you switched common law and civil law.
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:58 pm

Wytenigistan wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Almost every state has English listed as its official language. Those German and French immigrants pretty much became part of the Anglo culture through intermarriage and cultural assimilation. In fact, a large part of the WASP elite was made up of people of German or Dutch descent.

Yeah that's why I think it's more west euro than specifically Anglo. I'm not sure about the assimilation, I think they more or less both assimilated with each other.


Our cultural institutions are rooted in Great Britain or the English colonists.

The ethnicity of the people who later came to utilize these institutions is irrelevant, as they barely made any changes to them, and kept them largely as they were.

They did assimilate. The fact that the vast majority of Americans of German descent speak entirely English and not a lick of German kinda proves they assimilated.
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:58 pm

Spartan Philidelphia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
1. English :palm:
2. A legal system based upon Civil law (the Anglosphere and a few African nations are the only countries that use civil law, as opposed to common law)
3. The Declaration of Independence and Constitution were pretty much created entirely by British Americans
4. The Special Relationship
5. Traditional ruling elite, the WASP (White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant)
6. We used to be a British colony


Need I go on?


Just a correction. I believe that you switched common law and civil law.


Oh shit I did. That's embarrassing.
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:00 pm

In the Netherlands you have to learn at least on foreign language, and we spend 4,000,000,000 every year for forrign aid.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:00 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Wytenigistan wrote:Yeah that's why I think it's more west euro than specifically Anglo. I'm not sure about the assimilation, I think they more or less both assimilated with each other.


Our cultural institutions are rooted in Great Britain or the English colonists.

The ethnicity of the people who later came to utilize these institutions is irrelevant, as they barely made any changes to them, and kept them largely as they were.

They did assimilate. The fact that the vast majority of Americans of German descent speak entirely English and not a lick of German kinda proves they assimilated.

Well, linguistically anyway.
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Postby Wytenigistan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:01 pm

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:In the Netherlands you have to learn at least on foreign language, and we spend 4,000,000,000 every year for forrign aid.

In the US too, to graduate highschool I think, or it might be to get into college, I'm not sure.
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Postby Mushet » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:01 pm

Wytenigistan wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Our cultural institutions are rooted in Great Britain or the English colonists.

The ethnicity of the people who later came to utilize these institutions is irrelevant, as they barely made any changes to them, and kept them largely as they were.

They did assimilate. The fact that the vast majority of Americans of German descent speak entirely English and not a lick of German kinda proves they assimilated.

Well, linguistically anyway.

The majority of White Americans are of german descent but you don't really see them doing German shit.
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:02 pm

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Empire of Vlissingen wrote:In the Netherlands you have to learn at least on foreign language, and we spend 4,000,000,000 every year for forrign aid.

In the US too, to graduate highschool I think, or it might be to get into college, I'm not sure.

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