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by Ayreonia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:56 am
by Shofercia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:00 am
Ayreonia wrote:Why do people keep saying Mississippi? It wasn't even important until a few centuries ago.
by Farnhamia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:00 am
Shofercia wrote:Alleniana wrote:Yes, it's a bit random, but it's NSG. So, what was it? The most important and influential river to homo sapiens' history, development and everything about them. Consider all factors; environmental, scientific, war, etc. However, only consider fairly direct effects; no pulling some prehistoric river out of your ass saying without it reptiles and therefore humans would never have been, or something like that.
Here's a list of rivers which I'm fairly sure will make it to the top:
Tigris
Euphrates
Rhine
Danube
Nile
Yangtze
Yellow
Ganges
Indus
I won't be choosing one, merely discussing, by the way. Poll will be up after there's an idea of the main candidates, which I am guessing will be those 9, plus an "Other" option, because the Po or the Rhone or the Mississippi and the Amazon probably aren't quite as important.
Why no Volga or Don or Yenisei?
by Scholencia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:00 am
Arumdaum wrote:Scholencia wrote:Egypt is part of the Roman civilisation (at least its last phase). Except few inventions that the Greeks got from the Phonecians there is nothing significant coming from the middle eastern people.
There would be a Rome or Greece, maybe in a diferent form.
Because, like, y'know, agriculture and civilization aren't important or anything, sure.
by Magna Libero » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:02 am
Shofercia wrote:Alleniana wrote:Yes, it's a bit random, but it's NSG. So, what was it? The most important and influential river to homo sapiens' history, development and everything about them. Consider all factors; environmental, scientific, war, etc. However, only consider fairly direct effects; no pulling some prehistoric river out of your ass saying without it reptiles and therefore humans would never have been, or something like that.
Here's a list of rivers which I'm fairly sure will make it to the top:
Tigris
Euphrates
Rhine
Danube
Nile
Yangtze
Yellow
Ganges
Indus
I won't be choosing one, merely discussing, by the way. Poll will be up after there's an idea of the main candidates, which I am guessing will be those 9, plus an "Other" option, because the Po or the Rhone or the Mississippi and the Amazon probably aren't quite as important.
Why no Volga or Don or Yenisei?
by Risottia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:02 am
Alleniana wrote:Yes, it's a bit random, but it's NSG. So, what was it? The most important and influential river to homo sapiens' history, development and everything about them. Consider all factors; environmental, scientific, war, etc.
by Shofercia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:08 am
by Shofercia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:09 am
by Magna Libero » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:10 am
by Shofercia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:11 am
by Magna Libero » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:14 am
by Shofercia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:14 am
by Magna Libero » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:16 am
Shofercia wrote:Magna Libero wrote:Less significant than Nile, Euphrat, Tigris or Yellow River. For instance.
The question was: the most important and influential river to homo sapiens' history?
I could easily make the argument that Volga trumps them. If a country like Russia says you're awesome as a river, and a country like Egypt says you're awesome, I'm going with Russia.
by Shofercia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:16 am
Magna Libero wrote:Shofercia wrote:
There's a "slight" difference between playing a crucial role in the Great Patriotic War, and thus the development of Human History, and being owned by Kim Jong Un.
Okay, but the rest of the world wouldn't have developed as significantly without the ancient fertile crescent region (basically Middle East)
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:17 am
Magna Libero wrote:Shofercia wrote:
There's a "slight" difference between playing a crucial role in the Great Patriotic War, and thus the development of Human History, and being owned by Kim Jong Un.
Okay, but the rest of the world wouldn't have developed as significantly without the ancient fertile crescent region (basically Middle East)
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by Shofercia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:17 am
Magna Libero wrote:Shofercia wrote:
The question was: the most important and influential river to homo sapiens' history?
I could easily make the argument that Volga trumps them. If a country like Russia says you're awesome as a river, and a country like Egypt says you're awesome, I'm going with Russia.
Why on earth would you say that?
A lot of technological development came from the Nile area.
by Rio Cana » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:18 am
Until the turn of the twentieth century Brazil and the countries that share the Amazon basin (i.e. Bolivia, Venezuela and Peru), were the only exporters of natural rubber. Brazil sold almost ninety percent of the total rubber commercialized in the world. The fundamental fact that explains Brazil’s entry into and domination of natural rubber production during the period 1870 through roughly 1913 is that most of the world’s rubber trees grew naturally in the Amazon region of Brazil. The Brazilian rubber industry developed a high-wage cost structure as the result of labor scarcity and lack of competition in the early years of rubber production.
Manaus also had the first electric generators supplying power to the city, has well has, the first tram in Brazil. US and European auto manufacturers most likely relied on Amazon rubber for tire manufacturing.If you were to travel up the Mississippi River in the United States, it is possible that, in a canoe or kayak, you could reach the end of the Mississippi, where the banks of the river are 20 feet apart, a distance of around 2,300 miles.
If you were to travel up the Amazon River, at 2,300 miles you would arrive at Iquitos, Peru. And you could have traveled the full distance in an ocean-going vessel.
Iquitos has an amazing, if rather seamy, history.
In the heyday of the rubber boom at the beginning of the 20th century, millions of dollars were being made by the rubber barons. The money came out of the jungle in balls of crude rubber, often stained with the blood of natives at the hands of merciless overseers.
With the great quantities of money pouring into Iquitos, a city isolated thousands of miles from society, the rich rubber barons and their hangers-on attempted to bring society to Iquitos.
From France came the "Iron House" designed by Gustav Eiffel of Eiffel Tower fame, which was purchased at the Paris World's Fair by a rubber baron, disassembled and brought to Iquitos where it was re-assembled in 1886 and still stands on the Plaza de Armas.
From 1,000 miles downriver at Manaus, another rubber center with its famous Opera House, came Caruso and other world-class artists.
by Magna Libero » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:21 am
by Farnhamia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:23 am
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Magna Libero wrote:Okay, but the rest of the world wouldn't have developed as significantly without the ancient fertile crescent region (basically Middle East)
I don't think it's fair to deny the importance of these rivers to the Russians. It's history and influence, just in one area. Still important.
by Wendenland » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:23 am
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:24 am
Farnhamia wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I don't think it's fair to deny the importance of these rivers to the Russians. It's history and influence, just in one area. Still important.
Important in the area, sure, no one's disputing that. The thread does ask "in Human History," though, a somewhat wider field.
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