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Postby Sibirsky » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:09 pm

German-Spanish Empire wrote:Yes. Why?
Well call me biased but my mom is a recovered alcoholic...imagine 2 to 3 days the only person with you your sister she's 14 and your 5...alcohol is #Retarded.

Drinking rose during prohibition.

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Postby Sibirsky » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:10 pm

Frazers wrote:No but it does need stricter controls to prevent abuses.

It is strict controls that cause the most abuse.
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Postby Conkerials » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:11 pm

If cannabis is illegal, so should alcohol, since alcohol is much worse for your body.

But in my personal opinion, no, but the laws enforcing moderation should be stricter.
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Postby Arkiasis » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:13 pm

No.

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Postby Cameroi » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:13 pm

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Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Not yet, you fool! We're in the middle of a very delicate campaign in which we slowly destroy the image of alcohol in the eyes of the public even as we slowly squeeze it ever more tightly with regulations. By the time it comes time to outlaw it, most people won't want it anyway and we'll have satellites and drones to keep an eye on those moonshiners.

Just don't jump the gun and alcohol will be history soon enough.


Um...what.

I don't see how alcohol is bad, it's been around forever. Some people abuse it, which is really awful, heck half of my family died of alcohol. But it's not a good reason to ban it.


it is only 'bad' because it serves no other purpose THEN to be "abused". like many another thing, of which the same can also be said however, banning, or attempting to ban, its possession anyway, only makes a bad situation worse. banning the mass production of those several things might not be quite as bad an idea however. as then do it yourselfers, would at least not be part of the crime market.
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Postby Solaray » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:16 pm

No, and well we're at it, get rid of those nasty graphic warnings on tobacco products. It's a waste of time and money to force those on, and it has little to no sway on tobacco use.
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Postby Chedastan » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:17 pm

You know what, just make everything illegal. Nothing's allowed. :P
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:18 pm

I am pretty sure this has been tried before...

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Postby Rahmos » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:18 pm

Arkiasis wrote:No.

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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:19 pm

Cameroi wrote:
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Um...what.

I don't see how alcohol is bad, it's been around forever. Some people abuse it, which is really awful, heck half of my family died of alcohol. But it's not a good reason to ban it.


it is only 'bad' because it serves no other purpose THEN to be "abused". like many another thing, of which the same can also be said however, banning, or attempting to ban, its possession anyway, only makes a bad situation worse. banning the mass production of those several things might not be quite as bad an idea however. as then do it yourselfers, would at least not be part of the crime market.


Some people do it for the occasional buzz, some just have one for fun, and then you have the few people who abuse it. But making it illegal would make a not so good situation 20 times worse.
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Postby Cameroi » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:19 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Frazers wrote:No but it does need stricter controls to prevent abuses.

It is strict controls that cause the most abuse.


close but no ceegar. its repression that is the mother of obsession.

"controls" don't HAVE to be repressive. they usually get that way as a result of compromises inherent to the political process.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:20 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Not yet, you fool! We're in the middle of a very delicate campaign in which we slowly destroy the image of alcohol in the eyes of the public even as we slowly squeeze it ever more tightly with regulations. By the time it comes time to outlaw it, most people won't want it anyway and we'll have satellites and drones to keep an eye on those moonshiners.

Just don't jump the gun and alcohol will be history soon enough.


Um...what.

I don't see how alcohol is bad, it's been around forever. Some people abuse it, which is really awful, heck half of my family died of alcohol. But it's not a good reason to ban it.

Not to mention some alcohol is actually good for you when consumed with moderation. Also, without alcohol, a lot more people would have died throughout time. We owe a great debt to the divine brewski.

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Postby Solaray » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:22 pm

Chedastan wrote:You know what, just make everything illegal. Nothing's allowed. :P

Especially not banning things! :D
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Postby Cameroi » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:23 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Cameroi wrote:
it is only 'bad' because it serves no other purpose THEN to be "abused". like many another thing, of which the same can also be said however, banning, or attempting to ban, its possession anyway, only makes a bad situation worse. banning the mass production of those several things might not be quite as bad an idea however. as then do it yourselfers, would at least not be part of the crime market.


Some people do it for the occasional buzz, some just have one for fun, and then you have the few people who abuse it. But making it illegal would make a not so good situation 20 times worse.


essentially what i said, except i would not agree that impairing one's judgement is ever harmless, unless you lock yourself alone in a padded room first, and remain their until once again sober.
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:24 pm

Cameroi wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Some people do it for the occasional buzz, some just have one for fun, and then you have the few people who abuse it. But making it illegal would make a not so good situation 20 times worse.


essentially what i said, except i would not agree that impairing one's judgement is ever harmless, unless you lock yourself alone in a padded room first, and remain their until once again sober.


Alcohol is a safe escape for a lot of people, it's fun and it doesn't harm others unless you abuse it, or do stupid things under the influence.
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Postby Jamjai » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:29 pm

What?! That is crazy!

The Prohibition act didn't end so well so this won't end so well neither

There would be riots on the streets
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Postby Cameroi » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:29 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Cameroi wrote:
essentially what i said, except i would not agree that impairing one's judgement is ever harmless, unless you lock yourself alone in a padded room first, and remain their until once again sober.


Alcohol is a safe escape for a lot of people, it's fun and it doesn't harm others unless you abuse it, or do stupid things under the influence.


anyone who's judgement is impaired, is a risk to everyone. unless they get that way at home, have no spouse or children living with them, and stay there.
the 'fun' of embarrassing one's self, is at best questionable. sorry, i've tried it any number of ways. never found impaired judgement to be at all gratifying.
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Postby Trollgaard » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:40 pm

No, lol. Silly notion. Alcohol as been with us since the Babylonians, if not the Sumerians. Some of the earliest cuniform writing deals with beer distribution and production.

Silly to ban it now.

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Postby Czervenika » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:50 pm

For all the people here who want to ban alcohol just take a look at how well the drug war is going... Drugs are illegal, thus violent gangs form. These gangs then murder people whether deliberately or because they happened to be in the cross fire. My point? Prohibition kills. Ending the drug war would save lives and banning alcohol would just lead to a new "drug war".
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:06 pm

Prohibition produced the best years that America has ever seen :roll:
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:10 pm

No, prohibition didn't even work the first time.
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Postby Blazedtown » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:14 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:No, prohibition didn't even work the first time.


You mean isn't working. We could probably cut the homicide rate in half by ending the war on drugs, and without shitting all over the Second Amendment. But no, that makes to much sense.
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Postby Filthy Ginger Bastards » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:36 pm

As a highly functioning alcoholic with a history of alcoholism on both sides of my family, I can still say that prohibition is one of the least effective policies concocted by modern man. We have the illustrious examples of prohibition America and Canada to attest to that (and at least in the Canadian context, we have some very humorous and inaccurate shootouts!). Furthermore, to use an archaic Imperial Russian (and an equally ridiculous Soviet Russian example), when raising the taxes or prices of alcohol, people will go to whatever means necessary in order to imbibe. This often results in tub vodka and moonshine that will likely kill you off much faster (not to mention the black market that will undoubtedly arise as a result). Where I am from, we have a bittersweet government regulation of alcohol, that despite charging ballbreaking prices, ensures that we don't die from fucking toilet sangria.

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Postby Frazers » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:37 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Frazers wrote:No but it does need stricter controls to prevent abuses.

It is strict controls that cause the most abuse.


Doubt it.

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Postby The rebellious states of broken femuris » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:43 pm

is alchohol dangerous? yes.
should it be banned? well everytime its been tried it never ends well so no.

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