War on Christmas

[New Limacon]

I'll still wish people a happy solstice or new year.

Especially if they insist that someone is trying to take the right to say Merry Christmas away from them. For some reason, these people don't like being wished a happy solstice.

Why can't you just say happy new year.
Most people don't know what 'solstice' is.
If you said that to me I would just think your a bit weird.

The solstice doesn't fall on January 1st. They would probably think he was even odder if he wished "Happy New Years" on December 21 or 22.

[Dakini]

I'll still wish people a happy solstice or new year.

Especially if they insist that someone is trying to take the right to say Merry Christmas away from them. For some reason, these people don't like being wished a happy solstice.

Why can't you just say happy new year.
Most people don't know what 'solstice' is.
If you said that to me I would just think your a bit weird.

Usually I say both (unless it's after the solstice, in which case I wish a happy new year).

[Blouman Empire]

No, they can do whatever they damn well please with regards to the Constitution.

Before the 14th amdement came in State governments could do whatever they damn well pleased as it didn't cover them.

And I'll remember this next time you ask a question about the laws of a country you are not apart of.

Bitch please!

[Buffett and Colbert]

No, they can do whatever they damn well please with regards to the Constitution.

Before the 14th amdement came in State governments could do whatever they damn well pleased as it didn't cover them.

And I'll remember this next time you ask a question about the laws of a country you are not apart of.

Bitch please!

Note the boldfaced. Um, what time period are we talking about?

And what the hell is up with the underlined?

[Blouman Empire]

No, they can do whatever they damn well please with regards to the Constitution.

Before the 14th amdement came in State governments could do whatever they damn well pleased as it didn't cover them.

And I'll remember this next time you ask a question about the laws of a country you are not apart of.

Bitch please!

Note the boldfaced. Um, what time period are we talking about?

And what the hell is up with the underlined?

What time period? Well I suppose it was before the 14th amendment became a 14th amendment which according to my book on everything was on 21st July 1868.

As for the underlined, I know you are not strictly a part of the US but you are in Peurto Rico which IIRC does come under the jurisdiction of the US to an extent I do it is self governing but since you guys get a representative in the government it is not as though you are completely independent. I am in no way from an area that is a part of the US so I am not going to know exactly how all the laws of the US are going to work. Hence why I asked the question, and could have done without your "Any idiot should know the answer to that question" response.

[New Kereptica]

No, they can do whatever they damn well please with regards to the Constitution.

Before the 14th amdement came in State governments could do whatever they damn well pleased as it didn't cover them.

And I'll remember this next time you ask a question about the laws of a country you are not apart of.

Bitch please!

Note the boldfaced. Um, what time period are we talking about?

And what the hell is up with the underlined?

What time period? Well I suppose it was before the 14th amendment became a 14th amendment which according to my book on everything was on 21st July 1868.

As for the underlined, I know you are not strictly a part of the US but you are in Peurto Rico which IIRC does come under the jurisdiction of the US to an extent I do it is self governing but since you guys get a representative in the government it is not as though you are completely independent. I am in no way from an area that is a part of the US so I am not going to know exactly how all the laws of the US are going to work. Hence why I asked the question, and could have done without your "Any idiot should know the answer to that question" response.

Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States.

[Buffett and Colbert]

What time period? Well I suppose it was before the 14th amendment became a 14th amendment which according to my book on everything was on 21st July 1868.

Well then my mistake. I thought you were referring to present time.

As for the underlined, I know you are not strictly a part of the US

Yes I am.

but you are in Peurto Rico which IIRC does come under the jurisdiction of the US to an extent I do

With regards to the Constitution and Federal law it does.

it is self governing but since you guys get a representative in the government it is not as though you are completely independent.

We are hardly independent, although that representative in Congress doesn't get to vote, which is wrong, but that's another thread.

I am in no way from an area that is a part of the US so I am not going to know exactly how all the laws of the US are going to work. Hence why I asked the question, and could have done without your "Any idiot should know the answer to that question" response.

You're not American?

[Blouman Empire]

Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States.

That's what the "US" stood for.

[New Kereptica]

Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States.

That's what the "US" stood for.

This means that he is a part of the United States, which is rather contrary to what you said.

[Blouman Empire]

Well then my mistake. I thought you were referring to present time.

You're right man.

Yes I am.

Well, there you go the more you know.

With regards to the Constitution and Federal law it does.

Yeah I knew they had some ruling over you.

We are hardly independent, although that representative in Congress doesn't get to vote, which is wrong, but that's another thread.

That's what I meant you aren't independent, maybe I worded my post poorly.

You're not American?

No Sir, I'm an Australian.

Check your TG.

[Buffett and Colbert]

No Sir, I'm an Australian.
Check your TG.

That'd odd that I never knew that.

[Blouman Empire]

Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States.

That's what the "US" stood for.

This means that he is a part of the United States, which is rather contrary to what you said.

No it isn't unless I left out a word or I missed out a few letters meaning that the post says something completely different, I'm pretty sure I did say that PR came under the jurisdiction of the US, I just wasn't sure exactly on how much.

I will aslo say that I may have typed my post in a way that made it hard for someone to understand exactly what I was trying to say.

[New Kereptica]

Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States.

That's what the "US" stood for.

This means that he is a part of the United States, which is rather contrary to what you said.

No it isn't unless I left out a word or I missed out a few letters meaning that the post says something completely different, I'm pretty sure I did say that PR came under the jurisdiction of the US, I just wasn't sure exactly on how much.

I will aslo say that I may have typed my post in a way that made it hard for someone to understand exactly what I was trying to say.

Indeed, I think I may have. Sorry for the interruption.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

No, they can do whatever they damn well please with regards to the Constitution.

Bitch please!

Fucking Sigged.

[Tsa-la-gi Nation]

I'll still wish people a happy solstice or new year.

Especially if they insist that someone is trying to take the right to say Merry Christmas away from them. For some reason, these people don't like being wished a happy solstice.

Why can't you just say happy new year.
Most people don't know what 'solstice' is.
If you said that to me I would just think your a bit weird.

But isn't that at least part of the reason Christmas came to be, so the pagans would forget the holidays they celebrated & embrace christianity. No one really knows when Jesus was born, nor does the bible say to celebrated his birth. Doesn't they chruch want you to forget Solstice?
Buy they way, Happy Winter Solstice! Don't forget dec 21st!

[Blouman Empire]

No, they can do whatever they damn well please with regards to the Constitution.

Bitch please!

Fucking Sigged.

Hahaha I look forward to seeing it.

[Blouman Empire]

Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States.

That's what the "US" stood for.

This means that he is a part of the United States, which is rather contrary to what you said.

No it isn't unless I left out a word or I missed out a few letters meaning that the post says something completely different, I'm pretty sure I did say that PR came under the jurisdiction of the US, I just wasn't sure exactly on how much.

I will aslo say that I may have typed my post in a way that made it hard for someone to understand exactly what I was trying to say.

Indeed, I think I may have. Sorry for the interruption.

Meh, I wouldn't worry about apologising dude, we'll just leave it as is and get on with it, I'm over my little spat and apologised to Buffet.

We will now return back to our regular broadcast.

[Redwulf]

I say Merry Christmas and if someone tries to 'correct' me I offer to agree to disagree if it means that much to them. I got angry when people would get fired for saying Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays

Source please.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/world/20 ... 39841.html

One for starters. About a dozen more stories like this cropped up around this time last year. Normally I'd say the companies had other reasons, but there were at least 3 different companies involved in similar incidents. Every time, an employee would be fired on the grounds of wanting to use 'Merry Christmas' or something less secular than 'Happy Holidays'. Obviously, the companies deny these allegations if nothing else for PR reasons, or even that it's simply not true. Personally I'm not Christian (or rich) enough to lose my paycheck over it, but I don't personally see the harm in allowing your employees to say Merry Christmas. I'm more mad at America's obsession with not wanting to offend anybody ever than anything else.

Her former employer, Counts-Oakes Resorts Properties Inc., said she wasn’t fired for saying “Merry Christmas,” but would not elaborate.

Got one you can actually prove?

[Helertia]

Jolly! Man the mince-pie cannons men! Hold steady, and wield those christmas trees like pikes, damnit!

[Intangelon]

Not this shit again.

Thanks, Wilgrove. You just had to post this bullshit? Really?

[Redwulf]

Not this shit again.

Thanks, Wilgrove. You just had to post this bullshit? Really?

You were forced to read the thread and reply to it? Really?

[Intangelon]

Not this shit again.

Thanks, Wilgrove. You just had to post this bullshit? Really?

You were forced to read the thread and reply to it? Really?

Well, if it were anyone but Wilgrove, I'd probably have left it alone, but Willy has a truly annoying habit of posting the glaringly obvious or topics that have been done to death.

I'm actually interested in the topic, but the OP was asking for this morass of back-and-forth in the way it was posted.

As for what I say, I usually say nothing or "Merry Whatever".

It is the height of puzzlement for me that people think they need to get butt-hurt over someone wishing them whatever they'd like to wish them. It's not as if someone said "Happy Child Rape Day - I know that's how you lean, you fucking pervert." So that part of the "war" is utterly ridiculous.

It gets interesting when lawsuits or terminations (usually the latter lead to the former) are involved.

[Wilgrove]

Not this shit again.

Thanks, Wilgrove. You just had to post this bullshit? Really?

Yea, when you have someone pointing a gun at your head forcing you to read my threads, then you can bitch. Until then, just don't post in the topic if it upsets you, it's just that simple.

[Wuppwupp]

and i will be saying "Happy Christmas" to please everybody (:

[Liuzzo]

"Theres a Nativity scene in front of Town Hall. They should take that down! Its against my beliefs!" is really pushing it.

How about if it's actually unconstitutional? Then what?

Its not Unconstitutional.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
This is the part of the First Amendment that deals with Religion.
First word is "Congress"... City Council isn't Congress.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."
The act of putting up a Nativity scene isn't considered a "Law". Its just a decoration.
"...or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
hmm... the act of putting up a Nativity scene isn't really prohibiting Jews from celebrating Hanukkah, is it?
Your statement saying its "unconstitutional" is false.

Federal Law supersedes state and local laws. It may be a municipal government but this is still the "United States" of America. Generally state law may go in some excess but must not be below the threshold of the federal law regarding a certain thing. If a municipal law is unique to that local community and has no higher court rulings then it is the law unless challenged in court. Unless they can find a way to declare themselves autonomous to the USA then they have to go by our established case law. You don't have to like it but that's the way it is.