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Postby Auremena » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:45 pm

Benuty wrote:
Heleventia wrote:
I am not here to give you sermons. :roll:

It is basically common sense that Christianity is against LGBT and so is the military (1). You do not need a source for that.

Please define 'normal' for me.



So, you are saying that 9/11 was an act of god, not of the Al Qaeda. Whatever we did, we could never prevent it from happening. Noah's Arc is a mythological story, it's not true.



No, I am not. However, I can claim that Christianity and other major religions are against LGBT(2).



1) Well then, you must be ready to bear God's anger. He won't strike you down - that would be against the laws he created (he created science, you receiving a thunder bolt while sitting inside your house is purely whimsical). Perhaps your day will not go so great. I had a friend who used to say "OMFG" instead of "OMG" where F stands for an understandable expletive. It was really bad of her to prefix such a term in front of a holy word like God. Today, she leads a really miserable life. She has turned almost a skeleton, her life is in chaos, she cries day and night.(3)



That would be against the laws he created.


1) No it is not.
2) No they aren't.
3) Irrelevant.
He reminds me of those people who plaster their cars in Christian stickers and the like, and are exceptionally terrible drivers.
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Postby Auremena » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:50 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Auremena wrote:I somehow doubt that. I only feel sexy at times, and it's rare. Like when I used my foot to turn off the water in the bath once.
If I decide to. I'm not sure what gender I really am. I know that I'm more sexually attracted to men, but slightly more romantically attracted to women. I dunno why that is. Of course, that's little to do with choosing to become trans or not.
Doubt it all you want, but I refuse to deny that you're attractive.
All the people who say that have no intention of following through.
Except one person, who has too much intention to do so. I don't want her to have my child right away, I'm still a student. It won't work out between us anyways.
That's the way my relationships go. I have no interest in the few that are attracted to me, or they have no interest because they are in a relationship already, and those I do have some interest in, it's either (mostly) a fleeting feeling, or they don't have interest in me.
It seems it has to do with hormones. If I was female and somewhat attractive, I'd have my pick of men. But it's not the same the other way around. If I am male, I am truly one of the last who don't expect a woman that I just pick at random to get on her knees for me. Would that make for a great fantasy? Maybe, but it's also neither realistic, nor is it proper. I'd never do such a thing to anyone, no matter who I am.
NS's aviation and train sabelotodo.
Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
Some poetry I write sometimes
Tearing the MBTA a new one since 2014. The MTA too since 2016. Cover the world in trains 2030
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Postby Bottle » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:52 pm

Grenartia wrote:
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Thats rather... disappointing. Although, to be fair, vagina-dentata is terrifying.


Everytime I see or hear that phrase, it plays in my head to the tune of "Hakuna Matata".

My brain can be a fucked up place.


You are not alone.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:59 pm

Bottle wrote:
Condunum wrote:Personally, I only use LGBT because it seems to roll of the tongue for me. I certainly don't mean to ignore the other parts, it's just the well known name.

My mother always says "GBLT" and I tell her to knock it off because it sounds like a sandwich and then I'm hungry.


Green Beans, Lettuce, Tomato? :blink:

Bottle wrote:
Grenartia wrote:

Everytime I see or hear that phrase, it plays in my head to the tune of "Hakuna Matata".

My brain can be a fucked up place.


You are not alone.


:lol:

I knew I couldn't be the only one.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:00 pm

Ylkaeenplypkhkos wrote:
Luveria wrote:What kind of fetishist do you identify as?


i am a diaper lover but i lean more towards adult baby.


tell me more about how getting off shitting yourself is equivalent to being transgender.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:04 pm

I have to agree with Steely here. Sexual fetishes are not the same as sexual and gender identities. Though having a kink comes with its challenges, it does not make you Queer.
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Postby Condunum » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:42 pm

Auremena wrote:
Condunum wrote:I suffer some issues much the same which make me need to get tailored suits, but hot damn when I put one on, even I want a piece of me :P
I never feel that way. I doubt anyone else does either.

Tumblr suggests otherwise :unsure:
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Postby Condunum » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:45 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Condunum wrote:I suffer some issues much the same which make me need to get tailored suits, but hot damn when I put one on, even I want a piece of me :P

This is a new level of egotistical ness for you. :/

If you can't handle the ego, don't get on the ego train :P
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Postby Condunum » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:46 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:I have to agree with Steely here. Sexual fetishes are not the same as sexual and gender identities. Though having a kink comes with its challenges, it does not make you Queer.

The issue, I think, is deciding what is or isn't a fetish.
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Postby Auremena » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:00 pm

Condunum wrote:
Auremena wrote:I never feel that way. I doubt anyone else does either.
Tumblr suggests otherwise :unsure:
Someone professed their love for me on tumbler? I must be linked.
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Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
Some poetry I write sometimes
Tearing the MBTA a new one since 2014. The MTA too since 2016. Cover the world in trains 2030
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Postby Luveria » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:01 pm

Condunum wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:I have to agree with Steely here. Sexual fetishes are not the same as sexual and gender identities. Though having a kink comes with its challenges, it does not make you Queer.

The issue, I think, is deciding what is or isn't a fetish.

That's why you have me here to make those decisions for you.

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Postby Rocopurr » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:02 pm

Condunum wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:This is a new level of egotistical ness for you. :/

If you can't handle the ego, don't get on the ego train :P

You tied me up and forced me on the ego train though. :P

Auremena wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Doubt it all you want, but I refuse to deny that you're attractive.
All the people who say that have no intention of following through.
Except one person, who has too much intention to do so. I don't want her to have my child right away, I'm still a student. It won't work out between us anyways.
That's the way my relationships go. I have no interest in the few that are attracted to me, or they have no interest because they are in a relationship already, and those I do have some interest in, it's either (mostly) a fleeting feeling, or they don't have interest in me.
It seems it has to do with hormones. If I was female and somewhat attractive, I'd have my pick of men. But it's not the same the other way around. If I am male, I am truly one of the last who don't expect a woman that I just pick at random to get on her knees for me. Would that make for a great fantasy? Maybe, but it's also neither realistic, nor is it proper. I'd never do such a thing to anyone, no matter who I am.

You can find someone attractive and not want to date them...
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Postby Auremena » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:12 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Auremena wrote:All the people who say that have no intention of following through.
Except one person, who has too much intention to do so. I don't want her to have my child right away, I'm still a student. It won't work out between us anyways.
That's the way my relationships go. I have no interest in the few that are attracted to me, or they have no interest because they are in a relationship already, and those I do have some interest in, it's either (mostly) a fleeting feeling, or they don't have interest in me.
It seems it has to do with hormones. If I was female and somewhat attractive, I'd have my pick of men. But it's not the same the other way around. If I am male, I am truly one of the last who don't expect a woman that I just pick at random to get on her knees for me. Would that make for a great fantasy? Maybe, but it's also neither realistic, nor is it proper. I'd never do such a thing to anyone, no matter who I am.
You can find someone attractive and not want to date them...
I know, I just feel desperate and unloved. But I don't want to rush things. My parents I can tell are worried though.My gender issues have thrown some off, and I wish I could just have them resolved so I could just be a normal college student.
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Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
Some poetry I write sometimes
Tearing the MBTA a new one since 2014. The MTA too since 2016. Cover the world in trains 2030
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Postby Ylkaeenplypkhkos » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:43 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Ylkaeenplypkhkos wrote:
i am a diaper lover but i lean more towards adult baby.


tell me more about how getting off shitting yourself is equivalent to being transgender.


stop flaming.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:58 pm

Ylkaeenplypkhkos wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
tell me more about how getting off shitting yourself is equivalent to being transgender.


stop flaming.


I'm fairly sure that's not a flame. [/not a mod

Though, if you feel you've been flamed, and wish to obtain some ointment for the burn, I'd suggest you report it in Moderation. I doubt they'll agree with you, but doesn't mean you can't try.
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Postby Ylkaeenplypkhkos » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:02 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Ylkaeenplypkhkos wrote:
stop flaming.


I'm fairly sure that's not a flame. [/not a mod

Though, if you feel you've been flamed, and wish to obtain some ointment for the burn, I'd suggest you report it in Moderation. I doubt they'll agree with you, but doesn't mean you can't try.


are you kidding? that was such a rude response to me
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:04 pm

Ylkaeenplypkhkos wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I'm fairly sure that's not a flame. [/not a mod

Though, if you feel you've been flamed, and wish to obtain some ointment for the burn, I'd suggest you report it in Moderation. I doubt they'll agree with you, but doesn't mean you can't try.


are you kidding? that was such a rude response to me


Doesn't inherently mean its flaming, IIRC. Like I said, if you believe she flamed you, go ahead and report it.
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Postby Rocopurr » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:08 pm

Ylkaeenplypkhkos wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I'm fairly sure that's not a flame. [/not a mod

Though, if you feel you've been flamed, and wish to obtain some ointment for the burn, I'd suggest you report it in Moderation. I doubt they'll agree with you, but doesn't mean you can't try.


are you kidding? that was such a rude response to me

Rude =/= flaming

If you want to report it feel free to do so, but please don't get into a big fight over it here. I don want this thread to go too far off topic.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:27 pm

Ylkaeenplypkhkos wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
tell me more about how getting off shitting yourself is equivalent to being transgender.


stop flaming.


Stop trying to compare your fetish to sexual orientations and gender identities then.

Thousands of us have not fought and died over the decades for the label of fetishist.

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Postby Condunum » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:28 pm

Auremena wrote:
Condunum wrote:Tumblr suggests otherwise :unsure:
Someone professed their love for me on tumbler? I must be linked.

Oh, I assumed you meant others don't feel good in suits. But that makes more sense than what I thought.

Rocopurr wrote:
Condunum wrote:If you can't handle the ego, don't get on the ego train :P

You tied me up and forced me on the ego train though. :P

Nuh-uh, you got on this thing voluntarily by joining my church.

Luveria wrote:
Condunum wrote:The issue, I think, is deciding what is or isn't a fetish.

That's why you have me here to make those decisions for you.

Yay, I don't have to decide for myself!
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Postby Menassa » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:30 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Ylkaeenplypkhkos wrote:
stop flaming.


Stop trying to compare your fetish to sexual orientations and gender identities then.

Thousands of us have not fought and died over the decades for the label of fetishist.

Thousands of people fought and died over gender identities?
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:31 pm

Condunum wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:I have to agree with Steely here. Sexual fetishes are not the same as sexual and gender identities. Though having a kink comes with its challenges, it does not make you Queer.

The issue, I think, is deciding what is or isn't a fetish.


I think it's fairly clear what is and isn't a fetish. Hetero/homo/bi/pan/asexual (which is really the lot of them)? Not a fetish. Being trans*/transgender/transsexual? Not a fetish. Crossdressing? Sometimes a fetish, which is why I don't consider crossdressers inherently trans, but there's a difference between crossdressing because you like the clothing and crossdressing to get off.

Dating multiple people, being polyamorous, isn't really a sexuality, but it's also not a fetish either.

Being a furry, or being into watersports or whatever the fuck the "abdl" thing is? Yeah, that's a fetish, and it's fucking insulting to have my struggles compared to straight people deciding to spice their sex life up a bit.

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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:31 pm

Menassa wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Stop trying to compare your fetish to sexual orientations and gender identities then.

Thousands of us have not fought and died over the decades for the label of fetishist.

Thousands of people fought and died over gender identities?


Sorry, that number was a bit low. I should have said millions.

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Postby Rocopurr » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:33 pm

Condunum wrote:
Auremena wrote:Someone professed their love for me on tumbler? I must be linked.

Oh, I assumed you meant others don't feel good in suits. But that makes more sense than what I thought.

Rocopurr wrote:You tied me up and forced me on the ego train though. :P

Nuh-uh, you got on this thing voluntarily by joining my church.

Luveria wrote:That's why you have me here to make those decisions for you.

Yay, I don't have to decide for myself!

I didn't just join your church. I started my own goddamn Condunum worshipping church that's better than yours will ever be!

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Condunum wrote:The issue, I think, is deciding what is or isn't a fetish.


I think it's fairly clear what is and isn't a fetish. Hetero/homo/bi/pan/asexual (which is really the lot of them)? Not a fetish. Being trans*/transgender/transsexual? Not a fetish. Crossdressing? Sometimes a fetish, which is why I don't consider crossdressers inherently trans, but there's a difference between crossdressing because you like the clothing and crossdressing to get off.

Dating multiple people, being polyamorous, isn't really a sexuality, but it's also not a fetish either.

Being a furry, or being into watersports or whatever the fuck the "abdl" thing is? Yeah, that's a fetish, and it's fucking insulting to have my struggles compared to straight people deciding to spice their sex life up a bit.

Being a furry isn't always fetish related, but I do agree with what you're saying.
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Postby Luveria » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:34 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:Crossdressing? Sometimes a fetish, which is why I don't consider crossdressers inherently trans, but there's a difference between crossdressing because you like the clothing and crossdressing to get off.

Crossdressers will identify as crossdressers. A trans person doesn't think of themselves as a crossdresser.

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