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Postby Imsogone » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:13 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Benuty wrote:
Oh now come on "Full Metal Alchemist and FMA: Brotherhood" were great shows no need to insult them.


He said evolution is a fact and that believing creationism denies reality, LOL!!


Would you care to support your apparent allegation that creationism is real and evolution is not with some actual facts - facts that don't depend on a book of myths that's badly translated and several millenia old?

Oh, and as a point of reality - it's she, not he.

Reading some of your posts, I must conclude that you have to be misrepresenting your true opinion in order to create a controversy and draw people into needless and pointless argument. Either that or you are sublimely and willfully undereducated.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:13 pm

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Benuty wrote:
Oh now come on "Full Metal Alchemist and FMA: Brotherhood" were great shows no need to insult them.


He said evolution is a fact and that believing creationism denies reality, LOL!!

Yes. We get it that you find acceptance of reality amusing. You can stop reminding us.

Or, you know, argue your point. But I assume you know that you will be soundly thrashed, which is why you resort to infantilism.
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Postby Dakini » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:13 pm

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Benuty wrote:
Oh now come on "Full Metal Alchemist and FMA: Brotherhood" were great shows no need to insult them.


He said evolution is a fact and that believing creationism denies reality, LOL!!

I dunno what's so funny about reality.

I'm also wondering if you mean to make any meaningful contributions to the thread.

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Postby Divair » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:14 pm

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Benuty wrote:
Oh now come on "Full Metal Alchemist and FMA: Brotherhood" were great shows no need to insult them.


He said evolution is a fact and that believing creationism denies reality, LOL!!

Maybe I'm missing a pun or something?

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Postby Grenartia » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:19 pm

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Anachronous Rex wrote:This post combines total ignorance, a caps lock, and smiley abuse. I hereby award it the NSG Congressional Medal of :palm:


I am truly honored sir, but I abused no smileys. What Anachronous Rex said was legitimately funny. 8)

Now THAT is smiley abuse for you ^

Oh right and there was absolutely zero ignorance in that post.


Of course, somebody who is ignorant of their ignorance would be ignorant of any ignorance in the post.

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Oh now come on "Full Metal Alchemist and FMA: Brotherhood" were great shows no need to insult them.


He said evolution is a fact and that believing creationism denies reality, LOL!!


Both of which are true statements. Occam's razor tells us that the simplest explanation that fits the facts is most likely to be true. Evolution is the simplest explanation that fits the facts, while YEC is overly complex and convoluted, to the point where most of the time anybody claims there's ANY extra-biblical evidence for it, they're either lying through their teeth, mis-measuring something, etc, while all the biblical evidence is circular logic.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:24 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Global warning has nothing to do with religion, but then again, it's probably the same sort of people who get upset if you teach kids not to think being molested is normal.

Hm....

No, it's because they don't like Al Gore. We've been over this.

More likely because combating global warming isn't corporate friendly, which must mean it's poor friendly, and Jesus hates poor people.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:25 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:No, it's because they don't like Al Gore. We've been over this.

More likely because combating global warming isn't corporate friendly, which must mean it's poor friendly, and Jesus hates poor people.

*Yawn* Boring come up with something new for once please.
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Postby Seitonjin » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:28 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:More likely because combating global warming isn't corporate friendly, which must mean it's poor friendly, and Jesus hates poor people.

*Yawn* Boring come up with something new for once please.

Well it's not like the Messiah can be called at will can he. So be patient, it's the best we've got for now.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:29 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:More likely because combating global warming isn't corporate friendly, which must mean it's poor friendly, and Jesus hates poor people.

*Yawn* Boring come up with something new for once please.

It's not my job to entertain you.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:54 pm

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Benuty wrote:*Yawn* Boring come up with something new for once please.

It's not my job to entertain you.

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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:34 pm

Cant Kansas, I don't know...succeed...I'm really starting to feel ashamed have that place in the US.
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Postby Hornesia » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:47 pm

You want your child to be taught Christian beliefs? Then send them to a Christian school instead of Public.
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Postby Myrensis » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:54 pm

Spartan Philidelphia wrote:What the hell does global warming have to do with religious freedom or creationism?


Because environmentalism calls into question our divine right to do whatever the hell we want with this planet and everything on it. :p If it was important God would have put it in the Bible.

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Postby Olivaero » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:56 pm

Hornesia wrote:You want your child to be taught Christian beliefs? Then send them to a Christian school instead of Public.

This shouldn't be allowed tbh and I'm saying this as a theist. Sending children to faith schools is tantamount to indoctrination.
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Postby Avenio » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:59 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Spartan Philidelphia wrote:What the hell does global warming have to do with religious freedom or creationism?


Because environmentalism calls into question our divine right to do whatever the hell we want with this planet and everything on it. :p If it was important God would have put it in the Bible.


Or that argument's cousin, "Only God has the power to change the conditions on Earth, not humans.".

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Postby Hornesia » Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:07 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Hornesia wrote:You want your child to be taught Christian beliefs? Then send them to a Christian school instead of Public.

This shouldn't be allowed tbh and I'm saying this as a theist. Sending children to faith schools is tantamount to indoctrination.

Good point. Sorry about my stupid post.
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Postby Utceforp » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:03 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Cant Kansas, I don't know...succeed...I'm really starting to feel ashamed have that place in the US.

Kansas isn't really succeeding at all, but yeah, pretty much all of the Bible Belt seceding would be an overall gain for 'Murica.
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Postby Liuzzo » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:19 pm

Starkiller101 wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:It's not called the theory of evolution.
There's evolution, and there's the (scientific) theory of evolution by natural selection.
Evolution is still a bunch of BS


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Postby Liuzzo » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:22 pm

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Mewtinigrad wrote:Its hysterical how often people confuse the conventional and scientific definitions of "theory".

The people aren't sure so it is actually considered a theory and unless concrete proof one way or the other is found it will remain a theory.

I paid attention in class.


The scientific method, heard of it? wash, rinse, repeat and continue. If you're able to replicate it over and over it's a little more concrete than Maybe God and Baby Jesus did it. And I'm a Christian.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:25 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Benuty wrote:
Oh now come on "Full Metal Alchemist and FMA: Brotherhood" were great shows no need to insult them.


He said evolution is a fact and that believing creationism denies reality, LOL!!

I have a question for you - how the fuck is evolution not real?

Given the existence of self-replicating organisms whose genetic code goes through random transcription errors (mutations) with each replication, and the effects of those mutations, some harmful and some beneficial, on the organism, how the fuck would the organisms with the beneficial mutations not outlast and out-breed the organisms with the harmful mutations?

Because that's evolution in a nutshell.
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Postby The Waking Dreams Foundation » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:33 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Marquette of Pacific wrote:
He said evolution is a fact and that believing creationism denies reality, LOL!!

I have a question for you - how the fuck is evolution not real?

Given the existence of self-replicating organisms whose genetic code goes through random transcription errors (mutations) with each replication, and the effects of those mutations, some harmful and some beneficial, on the organism, how the fuck would the organisms with the beneficial mutations not outlast and out-breed the organisms with the harmful mutations?

Because that's evolution in a nutshell.

The leprechauns prevent it.

Seriously, though, evolution is a mathematical inevitability unless something actively suppresses it. And since experiments have conclusively shown that it isn't being suppressed, either the leprechauns are personally doing it or math is.
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Postby Utceforp » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:39 pm

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Imsogone wrote:
Creationism is a belief, evolution is a fact. Teaching evolution doesn't deny anybody anything. Teaching creationism denies reality.


OK SUUUURE :rofl:

Instead of just going "nu-uh" and laughing at us, why don't you actually, y'know, provide an argument? Even one of those illogical, circular-reasoning based "arguments" that you YECs are so fond of would be better than what you've provided so far.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:42 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Spartan Philidelphia wrote:What the hell does global warming have to do with religious freedom or creationism?


Because environmentalism calls into question our divine right to do whatever the hell we want with this planet and everything on it. :p If it was important God would have put it in the Bible.

They're seriously sciencephobic. http://www.policymic.com/articles/58295/5-reasons-conservatives-don-t-believe-climate-change-is-our-fault
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Postby Shnercropolis » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:58 pm

I agree with this article completely. It only makes sense that teachers should only teach things that are irrefutable. So, we could follow the logical steps and not teach anything at all! Wow, think of all the money that would save.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:05 pm

What does global warming have to do with religious freedom???

And I personally think creationism should not be taught in schools (note, this is coming from a devout Christian). The state and religion should always remain separated.

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