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by Menassa » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:32 pm
by The Lupercal Imperium » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:33 pm
Zavea wrote:The Lupercal Imperium wrote:
I have no problem with what you say. Rather, I look to space exploration as the naswer to a lot of our problems. Once we can travel to other planets, anyone that can't stand other beliefs can settle on another planet ( Maybe that is the solution, huh?)
eh, doubtful. certainly there's a lot of space out in... space, but i think it'll be a long time coming before any one group can identify, reach, colonize and establish a functional society on a distant planet having only cooperated with people from their desired ethnic group. it's also a question of how our ability to traverse and colonize space, if ever possible, develops and wherein will lie the concentration of resources and knowledge that allow us to undertake such huge projects, but whatever the outcome i find it difficult to predict that space travel will make segregation easier rather than more difficult
by Immoren » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:33 pm
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Ayreonia » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:33 pm
by The Lupercal Imperium » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:34 pm
by Menassa » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:34 pm
The Lupercal Imperium wrote:Zavea wrote:
eh, doubtful. certainly there's a lot of space out in... space, but i think it'll be a long time coming before any one group can identify, reach, colonize and establish a functional society on a distant planet having only cooperated with people from their desired ethnic group. it's also a question of how our ability to traverse and colonize space, if ever possible, develops and wherein will lie the concentration of resources and knowledge that allow us to undertake such huge projects, but whatever the outcome i find it difficult to predict that space travel will make segregation easier rather than more difficult
[...]You mean to tell me that you have never heard what Paul said about Greeks and Jews?
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by The Parkus Empire » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:34 pm
by Menassa » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:35 pm
by Zavea » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:36 pm
The Lupercal Imperium wrote:Zavea wrote:
eh, doubtful. certainly there's a lot of space out in... space, but i think it'll be a long time coming before any one group can identify, reach, colonize and establish a functional society on a distant planet having only cooperated with people from their desired ethnic group. it's also a question of how our ability to traverse and colonize space, if ever possible, develops and wherein will lie the concentration of resources and knowledge that allow us to undertake such huge projects, but whatever the outcome i find it difficult to predict that space travel will make segregation easier rather than more difficult
Ethnic groups? Listen, Christians come in all shades of colkor, every nation in the world. ANYONE can be a Christian. Therefore, it's not an ethnic thing. You mean to tell me that you have never heard what Paul said about Greeks and Jews?
As for space flight, there is a guy proposing a flight to Mars in 2023. People are singing up to be settlers and paying dough.
by The Parkus Empire » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:36 pm
by Siaos » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:37 pm
Zottistan wrote:Like voltage, the only practical way to measure freedom is relatively speaking.
Absolute freedom would be a terrible, terrible thing.
by Farnhamia » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:37 pm
The Lupercal Imperium wrote:Siaos wrote:Vatican City for one. If by Christian state you mean theocracy, no theocracy has ever really been pacifist. Ironic, isn't it?
Yeahg, but what can you say? humankind is a sinner. They will ALWAYS be a sinner; can't change that. Any human idea of utopia is doomed for failure.
by The Parkus Empire » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:38 pm
by Farnhamia » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:38 pm
by Menassa » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:39 pm
by Neo Rome Republic » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:39 pm
by Siaos » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:39 pm
Zottistan wrote:Like voltage, the only practical way to measure freedom is relatively speaking.
Absolute freedom would be a terrible, terrible thing.
by Siaos » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:41 pm
Zottistan wrote:Like voltage, the only practical way to measure freedom is relatively speaking.
Absolute freedom would be a terrible, terrible thing.
by Rio Cana » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:41 pm
Christians now make up 5% of the population, down from 20% in the early 20th century
Recent spread of Jihadist and Salafist ideology, foreign to the tolerant values of the local communities in Greater Syria and Egypt has also played a role in unsettling Christians' decades-long peaceful existence.[11] It is estimated that at the present rate, the Middle East's 12 million Christians will likely drop to 6 million by the year 2020
The largest Christian group in the Middle East is the originally Egyptian speaking, but now Arabic-speaking Egyptian ethnoreligious community of Copts, who number 6–11 million people,[2] although Coptic sources claim the figure is closer to 12–16 million.[
by Arglorand » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:41 pm
by Need a Name » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:42 pm
The Lupercal Imperium wrote:I have been hearing what has been happening to Christians in other nations ( the Middle East, for example) and I have been refledcting that perhaps it might be possible for a Christian only nation. The reason that I write this is because I am Christian, and allthough I politely disagree with people of other religions and they politely disagree with me, it seems like Christians are gettinbg killed a lot in the Middle East. I was just thinking it would save a lot of lives if we had a nation sort of like Israel, where any Christian could fly in if they were being persecuted. Of course, I understand the horror of the Holocaust and the impact it had on Jewish communities, so I'm not trying to compare the two. Still, do you think it is a good idea or a bad idea? Why?
by Menassa » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:42 pm
by Siaos » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:43 pm
Zottistan wrote:Like voltage, the only practical way to measure freedom is relatively speaking.
Absolute freedom would be a terrible, terrible thing.
by Caltarania » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:43 pm
Blasveck wrote:Isnt the Vatican technically "a Christian state"?
by The Lupercal Imperium » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:43 pm
No. I am Saying that Sint Paul said there is no difference between Greek or Hebrew, no difference between slave pr free. We are all God's children and we are all sinners. A hetrosexual that cheats on his wife is no better or no worse than other sins I can think of. There is no biggy sin-according to the Bible the right judgement by God is DEATH; in other words, I beleive, total and absolute destruction of the person. I get so sick of people that replace THEIR JUGMENTS from GOD'S JUDGEMENT. Like, whyh don't churches have sermons against hetrosexual couples that divorce for any other reason but divorce? I'll tell you why; because a lot of them are divorced!! It makes me sick when they make homosexuality seem so uber evil.
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