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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:59 pm

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Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Why the fuck is this a subject of debate? Of course it's racist and offensive!


Not all colored people take offense too it.

Nit-picking brigade here. We don't say that phrase, it's outdated and racist. We say "People of Color", but in this case, it would be much more accurate and pertinent to say, "Not all Black people take offense to it." Since not all People of Color are Black; some are Indigenous, some are Brown, some are Asian, etc.

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Postby Lorant » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:59 pm

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Not all colored people take offense too it.


Only the almost absolute majority.

Also, colored? Might as well call them negroid or sub-saharan.


Well didn't wanna call them black, that offends some people too. Not as many as nigger apparently does, but most the ones I know not only do not care, they use it too.

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Postby Lemanrussland » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:10 pm

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Only the almost absolute majority.

Also, colored? Might as well call them negroid or sub-saharan.


Well didn't wanna call them black, that offends some people too. Not as many as nigger apparently does, but most the ones I know not only do not care, they use it too.

People take offense to "black"? :eyebrow:

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:12 pm

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Well didn't wanna call them black, that offends some people too. Not as many as nigger apparently does, but most the ones I know not only do not care, they use it too.

People take offense to "black"? :eyebrow:

Not often.

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Postby Lemanrussland » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:17 pm

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Lemanrussland wrote:People take offense to "black"? :eyebrow:

Not often.

Only situation where I can think it would be offensive is if you called someone "a black". The offensiveness revolves more around the use of "a", I think. "S/he's black." is not really offensive.

Saying "a black person" makes it less offensive sounding as well.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:20 pm

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The Truth and Light wrote:Not often.

Only situation where I can think it would be offensive is if you called someone "a black". The offensiveness revolves more around the use of "a", I think. "S/he's black." is not really offensive.

Saying "a black person" makes it less offensive sounding as well.

Saying "a Black" pathologizes Blackness. Saying "a Black person" reaffirms the humanity of said individual, and is thus preferred.

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Postby Mushet » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:23 pm

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Jetan wrote:Ah, so when it's your privilege it's fine, but when it's our privelege it's "unearned shit"? Riveting tale, old bean. :roll:

I'd like to know what privileges Mushet is talking about that minority groups have, but not whites.

I'm just talking about this mundane little "N word privilege"
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Postby Vettrera » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:32 pm

Why does anybody give a shit?
That fact that you can't use one 6 letter word will not affect your life in the slightest.
Please....move the fuck on. The fact that you're lamenting that it's "not fair" that
you can't use a racial slur, makes you indeed sound racist. Get over yourself.

So many idiots on this thread....
Being able to use a 6 letter word doesn't make me any more privileged than a white guy that can't.
And I don't go throwing the word around like an ignorant rapper, so people need to stop with the
whole "if uneducated rappers can use the word...why can't I" -- Because it makes you seem ignorant.

Any time I or my friends have used the N word (white, black, or asian), it has always been in a multicultural group and used jokingly.
Like saying "he's my nigga" or something unimportant of the sort. Words are only negative if you intend to use them in a negative manner
and those of you complaining that you can't use the word obviously want to use it in a negative manner.
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Postby Cetacea » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:42 pm

Honky Pleeeeeaze!

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Postby Vettrera » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:45 pm

Cetacea wrote:Honky Pleeeeeaze!

Why aint you sharing whatever it is you be smokin?

Please shut all the fucks up. You're disgusting.
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Postby Blazedtown » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:54 pm

What an over-sensitive Suzy circle jerk. Its a word, people are going to say it. Some niggas need to chill the fuck out.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:55 pm

Vettrera wrote:
Cetacea wrote:Honky Pleeeeeaze!

Why aint you sharing whatever it is you be smokin?

Please shut all the fucks up. You're disgusting.


Fanning the flames today aren't you?
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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:55 pm

Blazedtown wrote:What an over-sensitive Suzy circle jerk. Its a word, people are going to say it. Some niggas need to chill the fuck out.

This is hardly a circle jerk there are only enough people to form a line.
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:17 pm

I find that the word nigger is only offensive when used as a slur, and that we shouldn't have to censor it when using it in an academic discussion.

I think Mr. Samuel L. Motherfucking Jackson put it best.

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Postby Herrebrugh » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:43 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Iuronia wrote:those consequences are relevant only in the Anglosphere.

*police sirens*

Weeeooooweeeeoooo! Bullshit alert!

Words that are racially charged are still still oppressive no matter who says them where! It is only up to the oppressed group to liberate the word!


Saying "nigger" near a black person probably won't cause a problem in the Netherlands, unless the black person in question is "Americanized".

The English word isn't nearly as racially charged here, and the Dutch word "nikker" is outdated and really not used by anyone anymore (not by blacks themselves either).
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Postby Jetan » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:44 pm

Mushet wrote:
Mkuki wrote:I'd like to know what privileges Mushet is talking about that minority groups have, but not whites.

I'm just talking about this mundane little "N word privilege"

It's more of a principle of the thing. I'm more pissed off at the fact that you claim we get "unearned shit". What makes you such a special snowflake that you get to decide what is unearned and what is not or who deserves what?
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Postby Sibirsky » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:50 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:Yes, I am talking about the racial slur. What do you think about the word? Offensive or not? Racist or accepting?

Context means everything.

I think it is a stupid word that is mostly used by black people themselves

Not offensive. Not racist.

and racist white southerners.

Racist and offensive. FYI, people up north can also be racist and use the N word.

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Postby Distruzio » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:55 pm

Nigger is a word. Words can offend. Words have meanings. If you arent a nigger then there isnt a reason to be offended. If you are then there is no reason to be offended. Its a word used in ignorance. Which makes its use to describe somone rather ironic.

Meh. Thats how i feel about it.

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Postby Mushet » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:56 am

Jetan wrote:
Mushet wrote:I'm just talking about this mundane little "N word privilege"

It's more of a principle of the thing. I'm more pissed off at the fact that you claim we get "unearned shit". What makes you such a special snowflake that you get to decide what is unearned and what is not or who deserves what?

How did you earn white privilege other than simply being born as a white man?
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Postby Jetan » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:17 am

Mushet wrote:
Jetan wrote:It's more of a principle of the thing. I'm more pissed off at the fact that you claim we get "unearned shit". What makes you such a special snowflake that you get to decide what is unearned and what is not or who deserves what?

How did you earn white privilege other than simply being born as a white man?

Define "white privilege". Give an example of this "unearned shit".
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Postby Quintium » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:45 am

Jetan wrote:
Mushet wrote:How did you earn white privilege other than simply being born as a white man?

Define "white privilege". Give an example of this "unearned shit".


Well, to be absolutely fair: if I see policemen running towards me, or hear police sirens approaching, I know it's not for me. :lol:
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Postby Vettrera » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:04 am

Quintium wrote:
Jetan wrote:Define "white privilege". Give an example of this "unearned shit".


Well, to be absolutely fair: if I see policemen running towards me, or hear police sirens approaching, I know it's not for me. :lol:

Isn't that just "lawabiding citizen" privilege, not necessarily a racial one.
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Postby Quintium » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:07 am

Vettrera wrote:
Quintium wrote:
Well, to be absolutely fair: if I see policemen running towards me, or hear police sirens approaching, I know it's not for me. :lol:

Isn't that just "lawabiding citizen" privilege, not necessarily a racial one.


Maybe. Social justice freaks call it racial.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:09 am

Quintium wrote:
Jetan wrote:Define "white privilege". Give an example of this "unearned shit".


Well, to be absolutely fair: if I see policemen running towards me, or hear police sirens approaching, I know it's not for me. :lol:

Well, one can assume that by being a law abiding citizen that it's not likely to be after you.
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Postby Jetan » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:18 am

Vettrera wrote:
Quintium wrote:
Well, to be absolutely fair: if I see policemen running towards me, or hear police sirens approaching, I know it's not for me. :lol:

Isn't that just "lawabiding citizen" privilege, not necessarily a racial one.

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