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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:15 am

Why the fuck is this a subject of debate? Of course it's racist and offensive!

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Postby Iuronia » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:20 am

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Iuronia wrote:...did you even read my post?

"It's an English word so even though I'm not a native English speaker I'm going to use it, damn you! Despite not comprehending zilch of the social consequences!"

Yeah, I read it.

Oh no, I comprehend the consequences of its use. The thing is, those consequences are relevant only in the Anglosphere. Rarely so elsewhere, or even on the Internet.
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Postby Riffian » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:20 am

To be honest i think nigga i think is neither rude nor is it offensive or degrading since black people them selves use it them selves and get all angry when a person with a different colour says the word.
Just how bastard was the most vile word back in the days it is not that much of a rude word.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:23 am

Iuronia wrote:those consequences are relevant only in the Anglosphere.

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Weeeooooweeeeoooo! Bullshit alert!

Words that are racially charged are still still oppressive no matter who says them where! It is only up to the oppressed group to liberate the word!

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Postby Zottistan » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:27 am

It's a word that will probably offend people if you use it. So best not to.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:28 am

Riffian wrote:To be honest i think nigga i think is neither rude nor is it offensive or degrading since black people them selves use it them selves and get all angry when a person with a different colour says the word.
Just how bastard was the most vile word back in the days it is not that much of a rude word.

Alright, this has happened enough times that I have to ask to be sure...

We all know that rap artists are not the spokespeople for the entirety of the culture, yes? We all understand that within the black community there is in fact disagreement as to whether or not using that word is appropriate and just because you saw it in a video that doesn't mean 'black people use it'?
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Postby Charax » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:32 am

What I meant was there's nothing inherently bad about the word, and whinging because someone used it is just pathetic. If I was black, and someone called me a nigger, I wouldn't care. I don't care if a black guy says something offensive about my race, or accent, or heritage, or whatever. Repressing free speech in the name of stupid and outdated taboos is just wrong.
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Postby Zottistan » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:40 am

Charax wrote:What I meant was there's nothing inherently bad about the word, and whinging because someone used it is just pathetic. If I was black, and someone called me a nigger, I wouldn't care. I don't care if a black guy says something offensive about my race, or accent, or heritage, or whatever. Repressing free speech in the name of stupid and outdated taboos is just wrong.

Who said anything about repressing free speech? You have every right to call anybody whatever slur you want. Just like they have every right to call you a bigoted ass if you do.
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Postby Ouregon » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:46 am

Since when is nigger racist?
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Postby New Aerios » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:48 am

Ouregon wrote:Since when is nigger racist?


Since around 1800. Possibly even earlier than that.
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Postby Ouregon » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:49 am

New Aerios wrote:
Ouregon wrote:Since when is nigger racist?


Since around 1800. Possibly even earlier than that.

Why didnt I notice?

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Postby Ylhkainplypktkos » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:35 pm

danm! this thread grew fast.
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Postby Laudren » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:59 pm

I have a question. Where did "the N word" come from?
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Postby Esternial » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:01 pm

Only offensive if offence is taken.

If nobody in the conversation takes offence, it's okey. My mates sometimes use it in a certain context and none of us mind since it's intended as a joke.

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Postby Phocidaea » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:03 pm

Laudren wrote:I have a question. Where did "the N word" come from?

An American (probably Southern) corruption of the Spanish word for black?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:04 pm

It's just a word. I've probably called more white people a nigger than black people (If only because I know far more whites than blacks.)
Been called it more often by white people too.
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Postby Jetan » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:42 pm

Mushet wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Then why are blacks calling each other racist things? Why cant I do it????????

See this is just about white people and entitlement you guys get so much unearned shit already but the minute you see a mundane little privilege that isn't yous then you start bitching.

Ah, so when it's your privilege it's fine, but when it's our privelege it's "unearned shit"? Riveting tale, old bean. :roll:
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Postby Mkuki » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:44 pm

Jetan wrote:
Mushet wrote:See this is just about white people and entitlement you guys get so much unearned shit already but the minute you see a mundane little privilege that isn't yous then you start bitching.

Ah, so when it's your privilege it's fine, but when it's our privelege it's "unearned shit"? Riveting tale, old bean. :roll:

I'd like to know what privileges Mushet is talking about that minority groups have, but not whites.
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Postby Red Team » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:02 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:Yes, I am talking about the racial slur. What do you think about the word? Offensive or not? Racist or accepting?

I think it is a stupid word that is mostly used by black people themselves and racist white southerners. The only way to kill the word is for some people to stop being racist and for rappers to stop using it to describe their "people." (I'm trying so hard not to sound racist right now.) I have noticed that it has split up into two different words, one ending with "ah" or "a" and the other ending with "er." The first word seems to be more benign, but still considered racist if a white person says it. Now you know my opinion, what do you think?


I think it is just another word which stupid people put a new meaning on. Being a white Southerner, I understand what it means to call someone a you-know-what (would write it, but not sure on the Moderators' views towards the word). A white man can be just as much of one as a black man. It is a certain attitude and behavior.
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Postby Trollgaard » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:02 pm

Its a word, and I'll use it if I want. I generally don't want to, however.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:42 pm

Red Team wrote:It is a certain attitude and behavior.

Please go away.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:43 pm

Trollgaard wrote:Its a word, and I'll use it if I want. I generally don't want to, however.

Why WOULD you want to? Why would anyone want to?

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:43 pm

Mkuki wrote:
Jetan wrote:Ah, so when it's your privilege it's fine, but when it's our privelege it's "unearned shit"? Riveting tale, old bean. :roll:

I'd like to know what privileges Mushet is talking about that minority groups have, but not whites.

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Postby Lorant » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:54 pm

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Why the fuck is this a subject of debate? Of course it's racist and offensive!


Not all colored people take offense too it.

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Postby Vicswampia » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:56 pm

Lorant wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Why the fuck is this a subject of debate? Of course it's racist and offensive!


Not all colored people take offense too it.


Only the almost absolute majority.

Also, colored? Might as well call them negroid or sub-saharan.

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