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US Government Shutdown? Not any more!
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:10 amby The Red Star Union
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/18/politics/ ... index.htmlSo apparently, because of the Obamacare standoff, the US government might shutdown. What do you think NSers? Im blaming the Republicans, but please do not turn this into a flaming debate.
Discuss.
[Modedit: I've altered the thread title, because the
question mark is no longer exactly apropos government managed to pass the thing meaning it gets to do things. Let's hope it won't need altering again soon! ;P]
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:25 amby Saint Kitten
A little over dramatic. They just want to be in the news and all anti-Obama care
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:28 amby Greto
I wouldn't necessarily lay the sole finger of blame upon the Republicans when the Democrats are of equal responsibility for this schoolyard showdown that keeps happening.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:28 amby Mewtinigrad
Sigh...anyone else getting that feeling of Deja vu?
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:29 amby Zeganas
I didn't become a libertarian for nothing. But I think that the democrats are more responsible than the republics, but the republicans aren't fully in the clear.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:35 amby Marquette of Pacific
Shut it the heck down! Democrats are frigging good for nothing and their regime is ruining our lovely nation!
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:35 amby Yes Im Biop
Shutting it down would end very, very badly for everyone.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:36 amby Uieurnthlaal
Greto wrote:I wouldn't necessarily lay the sole finger of blame upon the Republicans when the Democrats are of equal responsibility for this schoolyard showdown that keeps happening.
Are the democrats the one holding Congress and the nation hostage to repeal a law that would never get repealed through honest means?
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:36 amby Belmaria
Obama must really be stupid if he thinks that threatening Republicans, many of whom are libertarian-repbublicans, with a government shutdown will work.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:37 amby Thanatttynia
Would cause way, way more problems than its worth.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:37 amby Divair
Good.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:39 amby Yes Im Biop
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:39 amby Greto
Uieurnthlaal wrote:Greto wrote:I wouldn't necessarily lay the sole finger of blame upon the Republicans when the Democrats are of equal responsibility for this schoolyard showdown that keeps happening.
Are the democrats the one holding Congress and the nation hostage to repeal a law that would never get repealed through honest means?
No they hold Congress hostage to pass their retarded legislation instead and refuse to compromise, like the Republicans.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:39 amby Unicario
The Republicans are being brats about Obamacare. DO SOMETHING ELSE FOR ONCE, YOU DINOSAURS.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:39 amby Uieurnthlaal
Belmaria wrote:Obama must
really be stupid if he thinks that threatening Republicans, many of whom are libertarian-repbublicans, with a government shutdown will work.
Wait, you think this is Obama doing that? Oh no. Obama has no reason to do so, when he knows full well that Congress will never and can never repeal his healthcare law. He has America's mandate, right now. America as a country does not want healthcare do be repealed.
What's happening is that Boehner has yielded to extremist pressure in the House, and now they refuse to pass any law keeping the government running unless it also defunds the ACA.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24178690
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:39 amby Divair
Yes Im Biop wrote:How so?
Crushes any chances of the GOP gaining seats in 2014.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:40 amby Yes Im Biop
Belmaria wrote:Obama must
really be stupid if he thinks that threatening Republicans, many of whom are libertarian-repbublicans, with a government shutdown will work.
Someone didn't read the link.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:40 amby Belmaria
Unicario wrote:The Republicans are being brats about Obamacare. DO SOMETHING ELSE FOR ONCE, YOU DINOSAURS.
My mother works as a home health nurse and has been told that she might lose her job because of Obamacare so I agree with the GOP on this one.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:42 amby Yes Im Biop
Belmaria wrote:Unicario wrote:The Republicans are being brats about Obamacare. DO SOMETHING ELSE FOR ONCE, YOU DINOSAURS.
My mother works as a home health nurse and has been told that she might lose her job because of Obamacare so I agree with the GOP on this one.
BY crippling a frail economy even more?
Divair wrote:Yes Im Biop wrote:How so?
Crushes any chances of the GOP gaining seats in 2014.
That is a very good point
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:42 amby Belmaria
Uieurnthlaal wrote:Belmaria wrote:Obama must
really be stupid if he thinks that threatening Republicans, many of whom are libertarian-repbublicans, with a government shutdown will work.
Wait, you think this is Obama doing that? Oh no. Obama has no reason to do so, when he knows full well that Congress will never and can never repeal his healthcare law. He has America's mandate, right now.
America as a country does not want healthcare do be repealed.
What's happening is that Boehner has yielded to extremist pressure in the House, and now they refuse to pass any law keeping the government running unless it also defunds the ACA.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24178690
O RLY?
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:42 amby HumanSanity
Here in Texas junior Senator Ted Cruz has threatened a filibuster while senior Senator John Cornyn has said he is willing to compromise and doesn't support the filibuster. One will not be in office come 4/6 years.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:43 amby Xeng He
You know what would be nice?
A constitutional amendment requiring at least four years for a "trial run" of new laws passed. I don't care how good or bad they are, they'd at least be doing something.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:43 amby Divair
Belmaria wrote:Uieurnthlaal wrote:Wait, you think this is Obama doing that? Oh no. Obama has no reason to do so, when he knows full well that Congress will never and can never repeal his healthcare law. He has America's mandate, right now.
America as a country does not want healthcare do be repealed.
What's happening is that Boehner has yielded to extremist pressure in the House, and now they refuse to pass any law keeping the government running unless it also defunds the ACA.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24178690
O RLY?
lol Rasmussen. One of the only polling sites to claim Romney would win.
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:43 amby Uieurnthlaal
Greto wrote:Uieurnthlaal wrote:Are the democrats the one holding Congress and the nation hostage to repeal a law that would never get repealed through honest means?
No they hold Congress hostage to pass their retarded legislation instead and refuse to compromise, like the Republicans.
How so?
Let me make one point clear. America voted for the Democrats. Not the Republicans. For Obama. Not for Romney. If we had proportional representation, then Democrats would have more seats than the Republicans.
So, Obama has America's mandate to do what he wants. He pushed the ACA through Congress, like it should. He pushed the rest of his laws through Congress, like they should be. Give me one example where he held Congress hostage to push through a law that otherwise would have been struck down by Congress?
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:44 amby Belmaria
Divair wrote:lol Rasmussen. One of the only polling sites to claim Romney would win.
*Cough Cough*