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1950s America: A Utopia?

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What do you think?

Yes
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17%
No
209
64%
'Murica has always been a utopeeuh
43
13%
Other
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Total votes : 326

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Postby Quintium » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:22 am

Scholencia wrote:That is possibly, the Germans and Japanese were also discriminated during World War II. though I never personally heard of such examples. In fact, there is quite the opposite examples like with Ayn Rand, who was a Russian.


If you need an example of Japanese people being discriminated against, they were locked up in camps during the war.
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Postby Maryginia » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:32 am

Also, for me, provided I wasn't born under the circumstances I was born in, 4 months early, that kind of stuff, I'd be fine, might I face some discrimination from the private schools, and in some parts of towns, and be prevented from living in some places ue to my religion, yes, But the school I would go to if I went Private, would be As good, if not better than that other school, and living in the parts of town, that had more Jewish people in them, would allow me to experience more and stronger Jewish culture, I'd be fine.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:32 am

It had things that were good about it, and it had things that were bad about it.

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Postby Vicswampia » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:32 am

Domenic and friends wrote:Nobody worried about wars


Except they were shit paranoid about a nuclear war with the Soviet Union.


Domenic and friends wrote:We can all talk about if your "white and christian" Bs but i would love the 1950s and im from Southern italian descent and i have very dark skin.


You'd like the 50's as much as the blacks liked Apartheid South Africa, then.

Domenic and friends wrote:Also if you knew your history outside of the US deep south Black people had perfect rights.


If you mean they could vote without being killed...

Segregation didn't just happen in the South, you know.

Domenic and friends wrote:And if you were darker skinned or of a different religion you wouldnt be killed.


You would only be put in the edge because of the social, and in some places official opression.

Domenic and friends wrote:Trust me when i say big brother government im from South africa and i know the horrors of the ANC and of being chased away and killed by your countryman for the color of your skin. Let me tell you this that wouldnt happen in the 1950s


Just like the White did in the Apartheid?
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Postby Vicswampia » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:35 am

Scholencia wrote:That is possibly, the Germans and Japanese were also discriminated during World War II. though I never personally heard of such examples. In fact, there is quite the opposite examples like with Ayn Rand, who was a Russian.


Discrimination against Germans in the US during the WWII occured in a far-lesser scale since you a lot of Americans have German descent.

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Postby Republic of Greater America » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:37 am

Wilgrove wrote:1950 in America was great...as long as you were white, male, christian and you were middle class or higher.

It pretty much sucked for everyone else.


This. Seeing as I'm not a white Christian male, well, I'd rather live in a different time.

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Postby Personal Freedom » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:40 am

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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:40 am

Valcouria wrote:Ah, the 50s; When men were men, women were women, America was great, there was an obvious enemy to be hated, and society was good and decent. Looking back, I do long for a return to such a society...

There is an obvious enemy to be hated today.

it's called hate.

Your obsession with hating people and forcing them into certain roles is so unchristian that not even the Catholic Church manages it.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:45 am

Curiously the movies never show how shitty it was for those non-white people.
Just these idiotic portrayals that try to depict the time as being utopian.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:46 am

Genivaria wrote:Curiously the movies never show how shitty it was for those non-white people.
Just these idiotic portrayals that try to depict the time as being utopian.

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Postby Arlenton » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:51 am

Minus the Cold War and racism it was arguably the best time for America.

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Postby Genivaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:52 am

Arlenton wrote:Minus the Cold War and racism it was arguably the best time for America.

And the lack of women's suffrage, and the lack of labor laws, and the paranoia, and the McCarthyist suppression of liberties.
So no not really.
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:54 am

The only real Utopia was Sparta
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:55 am

DrakoBlaria wrote:The only real Utopia was Sparta

You're funny.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:58 am

It was good, if you were rich, white, from America, and capitalist.
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:58 am

Genivaria wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Minus the Cold War and racism it was arguably the best time for America.

And the lack of women's suffrage, and the lack of labor laws, and the paranoia, and the McCarthyist suppression of liberties.
So no not really.

Do you mean African-American suffrage? Women, despite being heavily discriminated against in the workplace and in society, gained universal suffrage in 1920.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:59 am

Uieurnthlaal wrote:
Genivaria wrote:And the lack of women's suffrage, and the lack of labor laws, and the paranoia, and the McCarthyist suppression of liberties.
So no not really.

Do you mean African-American suffrage? Women, despite being heavily discriminated against in the workplace and in society, gained universal suffrage in 1920.

Yes my mistake, thank you.
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:59 am

DrakoBlaria wrote:The only real Utopia was Sparta

And if your son is born weak?
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:59 am

Bojikami wrote:It was good, if you were rich, white, from America, and capitalist.

And Protestant. Catholics are papist spies. *nods*
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:00 am

Arglorand wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:The only real Utopia was Sparta

And if your son is born weak?


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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:00 am

Genivaria wrote:
Bojikami wrote:It was good, if you were rich, white, from America, and capitalist.

And Protestant. Catholics are papist spies. *nods*

And not a white nigger or a polack.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
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Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Bojikami » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:00 am

Genivaria wrote:
Bojikami wrote:It was good, if you were rich, white, from America, and capitalist.

And Protestant. Catholics are papist spies. *nods*

Ah. I see. The American Inquisition.
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:01 am

Arglorand wrote:
Genivaria wrote:And Protestant. Catholics are papist spies. *nods*

And not a white nigger or a polack.


The fuck is a white nigger?
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When Greeks stop being nationalists, they stop being Greeks
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:02 am

DrakoBlaria wrote:
Arglorand wrote:And not a white nigger or a polack.


The fuck is a white nigger?

Racist pejorative slang for an Irishman.
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Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:02 am

DrakoBlaria wrote:
Arglorand wrote:And not a white nigger or a polack.


The fuck is a white nigger?

My guess would be either someone from the middle-east, or a white campaigner for rights regardless of race.
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