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Postby Immoren » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:55 am

'Tis just daft.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:55 am

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That is because you are using it incorrectly.


Actually...they aren't using it correctly, otherwise Liberalism wouldn't be the monument of regulating the fun out of the world.


Fun is not safe. gotta ban it.
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Postby Nazeroth » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:56 am

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Actually...they aren't using it correctly, otherwise Liberalism wouldn't be the monument of regulating the fun out of the world.


Fun is not safe. gotta ban it.


Pretty much sums it up
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:03 am

This is beyond dumb.
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Postby Zavea » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:05 am

i agree with regulating/banning semiautomatic rifles but i'm stingy on the somewhat rhetorical definitions being used. it occurs to me that it would be more effective to create more punctual language and definitions so that the law can be more precisely implemented
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Postby Nazeroth » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:08 am

Zavea wrote:i agree with regulating/banning semiautomatic rifles but i'm stingy on the somewhat rhetorical definitions being used. it occurs to me that it would be more effective to create more punctual language and definitions so that the law can be more precisely implemented


vague is better, more stuff can be banned that way.

basically they are banning everything but sporting

even though the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with "sporting" whatsoever
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Postby New Aerios » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:56 am

If Commiefornia doesn't want to follow the constitution, why don't they just declare independence from the rest of the US. That way, they'll be able to become even more of an authoritarian shithole, and everyone will be happy (apart from the Californian people).

But seriously. What is it with these people shitting all over the laws they are supposed to respect and uphold? Obviously I'm not American and I don't live there, so if I'm missing some important thing, by all means tell me, but I was under the impression that they weren't allowed to say a big fuck you to the constitution...
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Postby Agritum » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:18 am

New Aerios wrote:If Commiefornia doesn't want to follow the constitution, why don't they just declare independence from the rest of the US. That way, they'll be able to become even more of an authoritarian shithole, and everyone will be happy (apart from the Californian people).

But seriously. What is it with these people shitting all over the laws they are supposed to respect and uphold? Obviously I'm not American and I don't live there, so if I'm missing some important thing, by all means tell me, but I was under the impression that they weren't allowed to say a big fuck you to the constitution...

You'd expect someone to have already challenged this bill to SCOTUS if it was unconstitutional.

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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:22 am

Agritum wrote:
New Aerios wrote:If Commiefornia doesn't want to follow the constitution, why don't they just declare independence from the rest of the US. That way, they'll be able to become even more of an authoritarian shithole, and everyone will be happy (apart from the Californian people).

But seriously. What is it with these people shitting all over the laws they are supposed to respect and uphold? Obviously I'm not American and I don't live there, so if I'm missing some important thing, by all means tell me, but I was under the impression that they weren't allowed to say a big fuck you to the constitution...

You'd expect someone to have already challenged this bill to SCOTUS if it was unconstitutional.


I suppose they have to wait until it is signed into law.
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:26 am

Stahn wrote:If you are in favor of restricting gun ownership, are you then still a liberal?

It would mean less liberty, would it not?


No, though I could see how you might think it would if you settled for superficial thinking rather than critical analysis of how things interact in reality. Weapons possession is an infringement upon individual liberty, because it provides a means by which others can be intimidated and coerced into behaving how the weapons possessor wants them to behave.
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Postby The Corparation » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:32 am

I really don't get why they bother doing this. Seeing as all you have to do is just hop the state line to Arizona and buy almost whatever you damn well please. Sure its inconvenient to go that far, but its not hard to do and there's no waiting period or anything.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:36 am

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Stahn wrote:If you are in favor of restricting gun ownership, are you then still a liberal?

It would mean less liberty, would it not?


No, though I could see how you might think it would if you settled for superficial thinking rather than critical analysis of how things interact in reality. Weapons possession is an infringement upon individual liberty, because it provides a means by which others can be intimidated and coerced into behaving how the weapons possessor wants them to behave.

So do you believe that merely looking intimidating should be a crime? Someone tell the bikers.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:52 am

Nazeroth wrote:
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That is because you are using it incorrectly.


Actually...they aren't using it correctly, otherwise Liberalism wouldn't be the monument of regulating the fun out of the world.


So libertarians are about destroying freedom.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:52 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
No, though I could see how you might think it would if you settled for superficial thinking rather than critical analysis of how things interact in reality. Weapons possession is an infringement upon individual liberty, because it provides a means by which others can be intimidated and coerced into behaving how the weapons possessor wants them to behave.

So do you believe that merely looking intimidating should be a crime? Someone tell the bikers.


Someone ban chuck norris, quick
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Postby Immoren » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:55 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:So do you believe that merely looking intimidating should be a crime? Someone tell the bikers.


Someone ban chuck norris, quick


Chuck Norris should be banned anyway.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:56 am

I think I'm beginning to support gun control just so I can see the gun crowd bitch and moan. It's entertaining.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:57 am

Immoren wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Someone ban chuck norris, quick


Chuck Norris should be banned anyway.


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Postby Immoren » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:58 am

Frisivisia wrote:I think I'm beginning to support gun control just so I can see the gun crowd bitch and moan. It's entertaining.

Like w/cannabis and potheads? :0

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Chuck Norris should be banned anyway.


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Yes.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Blasveck » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:58 am

Not sure how I feel about this. Seems rather......pointless? I doubt it will have any effect on gun violence, personally.

Though what I'm not going to do, is look completely stupid by blaming it on "da liberals!"
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Postby Resora » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:59 am

Frisivisia wrote:I think I'm beginning to support gun control just so I can see the gun crowd bitch and moan. It's entertaining.

Why else are undersexed right-wing religious types going to waste their disposable income on? Most other entertainment is sin, dontchano.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:59 am

Immoren wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I think I'm beginning to support gun control just so I can see the gun crowd bitch and moan. It's entertaining.

Like w/cannabis and potheads? :0

Potheads aren't as entertaining and generally have better thought out arguments. All I've seen in this thread is "Stupid lubruls takin mai gunz i luvz tha gunz but their not evn dangris!"
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:00 am

Frisivisia wrote:I think I'm beginning to support gun control just so I can see the gun crowd bitch and moan. It's entertaining.


It should be noted however that this right here is probably one of the most legitimate reasons for gun control among the bunch.

Frisivisia wrote:
Immoren wrote:Like w/cannabis and potheads? :0

Potheads aren't as entertaining and generally have better thought out arguments. All I've seen in this thread is "Stupid lubruls takin mai gunz i luvz tha gunz but their not evn dangris!"


I think your brain shut down for a few seconds there.

Oh wait.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:00 am

Resora wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I think I'm beginning to support gun control just so I can see the gun crowd bitch and moan. It's entertaining.

Why else are undersexed right-wing religious types going to waste their disposable income on? Most other entertainment is sin, dontchano.

I was going to say cocaine and hookers, but yeah.

Maybe Bibles to build forts out of?
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Postby Immoren » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:01 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Immoren wrote:Like w/cannabis and potheads? :0

Potheads aren't as entertaining and generally have better thought out arguments. All I've seen in this thread is "Stupid lubruls takin mai gunz i luvz tha gunz but their not evn dangris!"


I meant that some have said that they'd rather keep ganja illegal just to spite the it's users/advocates.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:02 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I think I'm beginning to support gun control just so I can see the gun crowd bitch and moan. It's entertaining.


It should be noted however that this right here is probably one of the most legitimate reasons for gun control among the bunch.

I'ma stop you right there.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons on both sides. While the gun control crowd has "yeah, it'll make us more safe", the gun crowd has "NUH UH" and the gun control crowd "wait, but statistics". Then again, "NUH UH" is pretty sound.
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