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Postby Gauthier » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:04 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:Chicago's strict gun laws seem to have failed yet again.

Weird that it's only gun control laws that fail when people break them.


Because there isn't a National Murderers' Association or a National Rapists' Association to push for making those legal.
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Postby Trelso » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:09 am

Gauthier wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Weird that it's only gun control laws that fail when people break them.


Because there isn't a National Murderers' Association or a National Rapists' Association to push for making those legal.


I daren't google it, because of the fact I don't honestly want to know... but there probably is.

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Postby Northern Dominus » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:37 am

Trelso wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Because there isn't a National Murderers' Association or a National Rapists' Association to push for making those legal.


I daren't google it, because of the fact I don't honestly want to know... but there probably is.
Well if one were willing to wade into a bit of a hyperbole excrement storm one could certainly make the case for the current iteration of the NRA being called the National Murderer's Association...
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:47 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Trelso wrote:
I daren't google it, because of the fact I don't honestly want to know... but there probably is.
Well if one were willing to wade into a bit of a hyperbole excrement storm one could certainly make the case for the current iteration of the NRA being called the National Murderer's Association...


By supporting the right for people to defend themselves? Ri-i-i-i-ght.

Come to think about it, considering that many anti-gunners consider self-defense to be murder, you could be right.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:00 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Well if one were willing to wade into a bit of a hyperbole excrement storm one could certainly make the case for the current iteration of the NRA being called the National Murderer's Association...


By supporting the right for people to defend themselves? Ri-i-i-i-ght.

Come to think about it, considering that many anti-gunners consider self-defense to be murder, you could be right.
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Murder denotes pulling the trigger yourself.

Now accessory to murder association, that's a bit more apt. I mean the defense of "lulz firearms control doesn't work" is used often enough as you know since you've used it, but the weapons don't come from this state. They come from states which have governors who are bought out by the NRA like Mike Pence in Indiana or Scott Walker in Wisconsin, states which probably won't be closing the gun show loophole anytime in this decade. So, one could make the argument that by extension, the NRA is sponsoring the violence here in Chicago.

So, since this is about rights in your estimation, what about our rights? What about the rights of the city and the state to enforce or own laws? Do we not have rights to defend ourselves from the tide of firearms coming in from veritable black markets over the border?
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:16 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
By supporting the right for people to defend themselves? Ri-i-i-i-ght.

Come to think about it, considering that many anti-gunners consider self-defense to be murder, you could be right.
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Murder denotes pulling the trigger yourself.

Now accessory to murder association, that's a bit more apt. I mean the defense of "lulz firearms control doesn't work" is used often enough as you know since you've used it, but the weapons don't come from this state. They come from states which have governors who are bought out by the NRA like Mike Pence in Indiana or Scott Walker in Wisconsin, states which probably won't be closing the gun show loophole anytime in this decade. So, one could make the argument that by extension, the NRA is sponsoring the violence here in Chicago.

So, since this is about rights in your estimation, what about our rights? What about the rights of the city and the state to enforce or own laws? Do we not have rights to defend ourselves from the tide of firearms coming in from veritable black markets over the border?


I bet the reply will be somewhere along the line of, "You liberal pussies have the right to leave people defenseless and vulnerable to so much as a raindrop within your own states, while Real Men have the right to Defend Themselves with Pure Firepower in their own states and bring it to your Liberal Pussy states to show just how defenseless and vulnerable you liberals really are."
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Postby Northern Dominus » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:24 am

Gauthier wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Murder denotes pulling the trigger yourself.

Now accessory to murder association, that's a bit more apt. I mean the defense of "lulz firearms control doesn't work" is used often enough as you know since you've used it, but the weapons don't come from this state. They come from states which have governors who are bought out by the NRA like Mike Pence in Indiana or Scott Walker in Wisconsin, states which probably won't be closing the gun show loophole anytime in this decade. So, one could make the argument that by extension, the NRA is sponsoring the violence here in Chicago.

So, since this is about rights in your estimation, what about our rights? What about the rights of the city and the state to enforce or own laws? Do we not have rights to defend ourselves from the tide of firearms coming in from veritable black markets over the border?


I bet the reply will be somewhere along the line of, "You liberal pussies have the right to leave people defenseless and vulnerable to so much as a raindrop within your own states, while Real Men have the right to Defend Themselves with Pure Firepower in their own states and bring it to your Liberal Pussy states to show just how defenseless and vulnerable you liberals really are."
In which case I'd be willing to aquiesce... if us "non-manly librul pussies" are given level IV body armor free of charge from the NRA, y'know since proper instruction and ethical training isn't automatically administered as a precursor to carrying a firearm in public.
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