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Nobel Prize for Putin

Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:52 pm

So since Russia was able to avert a war in Syria by standing up to the US of A, there are growing rumors that perhaps Vladimir Putin should deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2013/09/pr-campaign-gears-get-nobel-peace-prize-putin
He is clearly a wise leader and although he has some unflattering tendencies (like his attitude towards homosexuals) so did Obama (Drones, NSA, etc) and that didn't stop him from getting one or having said prize revoked.

I know it's a longshot, since the Nobel Committee is ideologically aligned with western values and is probably loath to give a prize to someone who so strongly opposes the liberal transatlantic power structure but it's worth speculating because he arguably is the most formidable statesman of our day.
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:55 pm

I would be all for it, but unfortunately he's a dick to people in his own country

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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:56 pm

Another thing, Putin has already won a peace prize, so he's got legitimate credentials to at least be considered.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/world/asia/chinas-confucius-prize-awarded-to-vladimir-putin.html
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:58 pm

Nobel Peace Prize for Putin?

The man who suppresses free speech, makes journalists disappear, the man who oversaw the invasion of Georgia, the man who hates homosexuality now deserves a peace prize?

I don't think so.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:00 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Nobel Peace Prize for Putin?

The man who suppresses free speech, makes journalists disappear, the man who oversaw the invasion of Georgia, the man who hates homosexuality now deserves a peace prize?

I don't think so.


The whole invasion thing was kinda justified if you think about it (plus that was technically under Medvedev's watch)
The other stuff is small compared to what he prevented in Syria.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:01 pm

I don't usually vote for Nobel Prize winners, but when I do, I prefer ones that throw a women's rights band in prison.

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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:02 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:I don't usually vote for Nobel Prize winners, but when I do, I prefer ones that throw a women's rights band in prison.


Pussy Riot was kinda asking for it.
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:02 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Nobel Peace Prize for Putin?

The man who suppresses free speech, makes journalists disappear, the man who oversaw the invasion of Georgia, the man who hates homosexuality now deserves a peace prize?

I don't think so.


The whole invasion thing was kinda justified if you think about it (plus that was technically under Medvedev's watch)
The other stuff is ancillary compared to what he prevented in Syria.


The invasion was carried out during Putin's last few months in office. Plus the invasion wasn't justified, they simply wanted to make sure South Ossetia didn't become independent or what we.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:04 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
The whole invasion thing was kinda justified if you think about it (plus that was technically under Medvedev's watch)
The other stuff is ancillary compared to what he prevented in Syria.


The invasion was carried out during Putin's last few months in office. Plus the invasion wasn't justified, they simply wanted to make sure South Ossetia didn't become independent or what we.


Georgia attacked South Ossetia, Russia intervened to defend people under attack from a trigger happy president shelling cities. Very justified.
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:06 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:I don't usually vote for Nobel Prize winners, but when I do, I prefer ones that throw a women's rights band in prison.


Pussy Riot was kinda asking for it.

Because when I award Nobel Peace Prizes, I like to do it based upon arguments traditionally reserved for rapists.

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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:07 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Pussy Riot was kinda asking for it.

Because when I award Nobel Peace Prizes, I like to do it based upon arguments traditionally reserved for rapists.


Oh good, I wasn't the only one that saw the irony there.

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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:08 pm

Because who cares about the fact that the US had a very large part in the proceedings and its actions are what caused the peace deal to be reached or the fact that Putin is an oppressive, warmongering, corrupt, authoritarian, gay-hating bastard?
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:09 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Pussy Riot was kinda asking for it.

Because when I award Nobel Peace Prizes, I like to do it based upon arguments traditionally reserved for rapists.


A bunch of dumb girls decide to dance and sing shitty songs in a place of worship, suddenly when they are given consequences for their actions then the western world erupts in self righteous outrage. It's not like they ever accomplished anything meaningful or deserved anyone's sympathy.
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:10 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
The invasion was carried out during Putin's last few months in office. Plus the invasion wasn't justified, they simply wanted to make sure South Ossetia didn't become independent or what we.


Georgia attacked South Ossetia, Russia intervened to defend people under attack from a trigger happy president shelling cities. Very justified.


The war resulted in the loss of a lot of civilian lives and it made the situation even worse.
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My girlfriend, whose family hails from Grozny, would beg to disagree.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:11 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Nobel Peace Prize for Putin?

The man who suppresses free speech, makes journalists disappear, the man who oversaw the invasion of Georgia, the man who hates homosexuality now deserves a peace prize?

I don't think so.

This sums up my opinion pretty well.
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:12 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Because when I award Nobel Peace Prizes, I like to do it based upon arguments traditionally reserved for rapists.


A bunch of dumb girls decide to dance and sing shitty songs in a place of worship, suddenly when they are given consequences for their actions then the western world erupts in self righteous outrage. It's not like they ever accomplished anything meaningful or deserved anyone's sympathy.

Yeah, dumb girls. I bet they have cooties too.
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Postby Finium » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:12 pm

They'll probably give Obama another one, or is it the pope's turn?
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:12 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Because when I award Nobel Peace Prizes, I like to do it based upon arguments traditionally reserved for rapists.


A bunch of dumb girls decide to dance and sing shitty songs in a place of worship, suddenly when they are given consequences for their actions then the western world erupts in self righteous outrage. It's not like they ever accomplished anything meaningful or deserved anyone's sympathy.


In Western Protestant churches, that's called the "Praise Band."

But seriously, no.

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Postby The USOT » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:12 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Nobel Peace Prize for Putin?

The man who suppresses free speech, makes journalists disappear, the man who oversaw the invasion of Georgia, the man who hates homosexuality now deserves a peace prize?

I don't think so.


The whole invasion thing was kinda justified if you think about it (plus that was technically under Medvedev's watch)
The other stuff is small compared to what he prevented in Syria.

He prevented a strike from trying to end the war in Syria asap.
What he left was a civil war which can, and often do go on for years at greater cost to the people.
I dont think aiding the continuation of a war makes someone deserve a peace prize, but then I didnt think Obama should have gotten one either.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:12 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Georgia attacked South Ossetia, Russia intervened to defend people under attack from a trigger happy president shelling cities. Very justified.


The war resulted in the loss of a lot of civilian lives and it made the situation even worse.


it ended the war in five days and Saakeshvilli was sent back to lick his wound, this time with the full knowledge that the West was impotent to save him.
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Postby Neoconstantius » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:13 pm

Frisivisia wrote:Because who cares about the fact that the US had a very large part in the proceedings and its actions are what caused the peace deal to be reached or the fact that Putin is an oppressive, warmongering, corrupt, authoritarian, gay-hating bastard?

Riiiight...after all, who cares about our Nobel-awarded, corrupt, warmongering, authoritarian President?
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Postby Luziyca » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:14 pm

Obama got one, so... it doesn't really matter, although I hope Obama doesn't get another one.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:14 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
A bunch of dumb girls decide to dance and sing shitty songs in a place of worship, suddenly when they are given consequences for their actions then the western world erupts in self righteous outrage. It's not like they ever accomplished anything meaningful or deserved anyone's sympathy.

Yeah, dumb girls. I bet they have cooties too.


cooties no, stds perhaps..
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:14 pm

Neoconstantius wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Because who cares about the fact that the US had a very large part in the proceedings and its actions are what caused the peace deal to be reached or the fact that Putin is an oppressive, warmongering, corrupt, authoritarian, gay-hating bastard?

Riiiight...after all, who cares about our Nobel-awarded, corrupt, warmongering, authoritarian President?

You're just too edgy for me, son.
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