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Souriya Al-Assad
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:19 pm

Vazdania wrote:
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I am French, whilst my political parties of choice are the PCF, Parti de Gauche, Front de Gauche, Lutte Ouvrière, Nouveau Parti Anti-Capitaliste, Parti Juche, Parti Communiste Maoiste, as well as this one.

So....you're a left winger.


You may summarise me thus, yes.

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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:20 pm

Geilinor wrote:The UK political test gave me 55% Lib Dems, 33% Green. http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/survey/results/523A6FDDB21FA


I've never taken a UK political test before...I'll give it a shot.
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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:21 pm

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:What the actual fuck? Juche has actual non-troll supporters outside of Best Korea?


Yes. However its not the sole one. In Europe as a whole furthermore (as well as elsewhere too) we also have altogether a massive Korean Friendship Association, which is headed by a Spanish person.

15,000 people is "massive"?
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The Union of the West
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Postby The Union of the West » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:21 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Gay Marriage, Abortion, "Leegalize Mah Druugs Yo"


Ron Paul is opposed to abortion, only supports gay marriage because of personal freedoms, in fact he is known for personally disliking homosexuality, and Ron Paul said he would never smoke weed but if someone wants to they can go ahead.

He's opposed to federal funding of abortion, not necessarily abortion itself.
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Pensalum
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Postby Pensalum » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:21 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Gay Marriage, Abortion, "Leegalize Mah Druugs Yo"


Ron Paul is opposed to abortion, only supports gay marriage because of personal freedoms, in fact he is known for personally disliking homosexuality, and Ron Paul said he would never smoke weed but if someone wants to they can go ahead.

Well, that's kind of the way I am about abortion. I personally don't like the idea of it, but I know that it must be legal to protect the rights of women.
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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:21 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
I am French, whilst my political parties of choice are the PCF, Parti de Gauche, Front de Gauche, Lutte Ouvrière, Nouveau Parti Anti-Capitaliste, Parti Juche, Parti Communiste Maoiste, as well as this one.

So....you're a left winger.

An authoritarian left winger.
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:22 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Ron Paul is opposed to abortion, only supports gay marriage because of personal freedoms, in fact he is known for personally disliking homosexuality, and Ron Paul said he would never smoke weed but if someone wants to they can go ahead.

He's opposed to federal funding of abortion, not necessarily abortion itself.

Oh, so he's for women's rights as long as they're wealthy. Much better.
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:22 pm

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Vazdania wrote:So....you're a left winger.


You may summarise me thus, yes.

am I allowed to say that I disagree with pretty much all your ideas?
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:23 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Gay Marriage, Abortion, "Leegalize Mah Druugs Yo"


Ron Paul is opposed to abortion, only supports gay marriage because of personal freedoms, in fact he is known for personally disliking homosexuality, and Ron Paul said he would never smoke weed but if someone wants to they can go ahead.

Abortion: Extremely pro-life, reintroduced Sanctity of Life Act
Same-sex marriage: Doesn't support it, says leave it to the states
Drugs: Leave it to the states
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:23 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:He's opposed to federal funding of abortion, not necessarily abortion itself.

Oh, so he's for women's rights as long as they're wealthy. Much better.

Who said anything about wealth? If they want an abortion they can pay for it, even if they are poor.
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:24 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
You may summarise me thus, yes.

am I allowed to say that I disagree with pretty much all of your ideas?
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:25 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Oh, so he's for women's rights as long as they're wealthy. Much better.

Who said anything about wealth? If they want an abortion they can pay for it, even if they are poor.

Healthcare is a human right, not a privilege.
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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:25 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Oh, so he's for women's rights as long as they're wealthy. Much better.

Who said anything about wealth? If they want an abortion they can pay for it, even if they are poor.

Explain how a poor single woman will pay the $550 that is the cost of an average first trimester abortion.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:25 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Vazdania wrote:am I allowed to say that I disagree with pretty much all of your ideas?

Stop spamming.
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Pensalum
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Postby Pensalum » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:25 pm

I'm very surprised, I didn't know anyone agreed with North Korean ideals besides North Korea.
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:26 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Who said anything about wealth? If they want an abortion they can pay for it, even if they are poor.

Explain how a poor single woman will pay the $550 that is the cost of an average first trimester abortion.

I don't know if that is on topic.
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Geilinor
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:26 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Ron Paul is opposed to abortion, only supports gay marriage because of personal freedoms, in fact he is known for personally disliking homosexuality, and Ron Paul said he would never smoke weed but if someone wants to they can go ahead.

He's opposed to federal funding of abortion, not necessarily abortion itself.

:rofl: No, he hates abortion with a passion. http://web.archive.org/web/20071024143701/http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/life-and-liberty/
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:26 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Who said anything about wealth? If they want an abortion they can pay for it, even if they are poor.

Medically necessary Healthcare is a human right, not a privilege.

Fixed.
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Postby Arumdaum » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:26 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:What... what from his sig makes you think he'd be a Democrat?

Well he's a little further left but bascally everything.

likeeee

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:27 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Explain how a poor single woman will pay the $550 that is the cost of an average first trimester abortion.

I don't know if that is on topic.

It is on topic.

You said that a poor woman can pay herself to get an abortion.

I asked you, how?

That is a perfectly relevant question.
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Souriya Al-Assad
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:27 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
You may summarise me thus, yes.

am I allowed to say that I disagree with pretty much all your ideas?


Yes because contrary to your assumptions here (which may surprise you), I do support Voltaire's quote: "I may not agree with what you say, however I will defend to the death your right to say it."

As for the form of government system I support, its in my signature.

Human Beings are humans, not property.Corporations, (Corporate Property), is property; it is not a human being.Once we understand these two simple concepts, we can move on as a society. - Shofercia | What I believe besides agreeing with the above: Corporations/Conglomerates are vile scum that need to be nationalised, centralised, collectivised as well as redistributed directly back to the masses themselves to control via popular committees. Vive le Communisme! Vive l'idéologie Mathaba!
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Geilinor
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:27 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Medically necessary Healthcare is a human right, not a privilege.

Fixed.

So the poor must be forced to give birth against their will, simply because they don't have money? EDIT: I see your response to Vazdania
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:28 pm

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:28 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Fixed.

So the poor must be forced to give birth against their will, simply because they don't have money?

No.

I'm talking about stuff like cosmetic surgery - no way do I want my tax dollars paying for that.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:29 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Geilinor wrote:So the poor must be forced to give birth against their will, simply because they don't have money?

No.

I'm talking about stuff like cosmetic surgery - no way do I want my tax dollars paying for that.

Oh, I see. Fris was specifically addressing abortion when he said "healthcare is a human right" though.
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