Shooting at Washington Navy Yard

[Gauthier]

Reduced crime rates, better standards of living, and more rights overall? I'll take that trade any day.

Which we also have. You don't get either of those in China or North Korea.

It's telling you had to use China and North Korea as your best examples of alleged gun control.

[Rand al Thor]

Huh, I thought more guns means less gun violence. Odd, I thought the Navy had lots of guns.

[Chernoslavia]

Tyranny. You Americans go a lot against tyranny, but you had, like, only one revolution?

The French, who instead just prefer to spend their days eating stinky cheese and frog legs had a whopping amount of four revolutions and are now in the fifth iteration of their republic.

All smoke and no beef?

I'd just like to point out that the Arab Spring, a giant political uprising the resulted in regime changes in two countries and a current civil war in a third, was started by citizens living in a country with very strict regulations against gun use.

Only bulwark against tyranny my ass.

Have you ever thought maybe the citizens in Egypt bought them from the black market? And last time I checked Syria has arms bazaars even before the uprisings.

[Yes Im Biop]

Huh, I thought more guns means less gun violence. Odd, I thought the Navy had lots of guns.

They just have REALLY big ones.

[Edlichbury]

Which we also have. You don't get either of those in China or North Korea.

It's telling you had to use China and North Korea as your best examples of alleged gun control.

You think they'd know better than to cite a state that literally claims they will "arm the entire people, fortify the country, train the army into a cadre army and modernize the army on the basis of equipping the army and the people politically and ideologically," as a great example of repressive governments stemming from gun control.

[Chernoslavia]

Huh, I thought more guns means less gun violence. Odd, I thought the Navy had lots of guns.

But someone had the idea of disarming off-duty personnel.

[Edlichbury]

I'd just like to point out that the Arab Spring, a giant political uprising the resulted in regime changes in two countries and a current civil war in a third, was started by citizens living in a country with very strict regulations against gun use.

Only bulwark against tyranny my ass.

Have you ever thought maybe the citizens in Egypt bought them from the black market? And last time I checked Syria has arms bazaars even before the uprisings.

It's funny how you think I was referring to Egypt or Syria as the birthplace of the Arab Spring.

It's funny because you are still wrong.

[Newzie]

How did I know this would be an Italian speaking

Ah, I actually like dem Frenchies. I just throw friendly jabs at them.

Basically works both ways brother <3

[Priory Academy USSR]

Rather unfortunate for all those involved. And rather disturbing that a man's redundancy disagreements (at least, I think that's what it was) caused the deaths of 13 people.

[Yes Im Biop]

Under 160 posts and people are already headbutting over Gun Control. Really NSG? Are you this pathetic?

[Greed and Death]

Having the human right to own something to defend yourself against tyranny isn't a disease, atleast not compared to what other countries have.

Reduced crime rates, better standards of living, and more rights overall? I'll take that trade any day.

Guns ownership rights and other civil rights really have no tie together.

[Schweizweld]

Will the NRA and republicans learn from this? I doubt it, they are hopeless.

[Priory Academy USSR]

Under 160 posts and people are already headbutting over Gun Control. Really NSG? Are you this pathetic?

This is a gun control issue, to be fair.

[Chernoslavia]

Which we also have. You don't get either of those in China or North Korea.

It's telling you had to use China and North Korea as your best examples of alleged gun control.

UK has a higher violent crime rate, and less rights than the US. So whether a country is developed or not doesn't mean gun bans works.

[Rand al Thor]

Under 160 posts and people are already headbutting over Gun Control. Really NSG? Are you this pathetic?

Well it is a shooting...

[Yes Im Biop]

Under 160 posts and people are already headbutting over Gun Control. Really NSG? Are you this pathetic?

This is a gun control issue, to be fair.

Looks more like a Shooting at a Military Instillation to me.

NO disrespect but at least the fuck didn't go after a school.

[Rand al Thor]

Huh, I thought more guns means less gun violence. Odd, I thought the Navy had lots of guns.

But someone had the idea of disarming off-duty personnel.

Evidently they most likely forgot one of the personnel. No excuse.

[Wisconsin9]

It's telling you had to use China and North Korea as your best examples of alleged gun control.

UK has a higher violent crime rate, and less rights than the US. So whether a country is developed or not doesn't mean gun bans works.

Sources?

[Independent Republic of Not My Problem]

Huh, I thought more guns means less gun violence. Odd, I thought the Navy had lots of guns.

But someone had the idea of disarming off-duty personnel.

The brass doesn't trust enlisted personnel.

[Schweizweld]

Switzerland has a very low rate of violent crime and their gun laws are pretty strict, many people mistakenly believe that anyone can own a gun but you need a licence to own most firearms.

[Greed and Death]

Under 160 posts and people are already headbutting over Gun Control. Really NSG? Are you this pathetic?

I think because the gun control advocate's strategy is to push for control measures each and every time there is a news reported incident.

[Rand al Thor]

This is a gun control issue, to be fair.

Looks more like a Shooting at a Military Instillation to me.

NO disrespect but at least the fuck didn't go after a school.

Pretty sure even the casualties would agree with that. At least have the balls enough to go after people who can defend themselves, not children.

[Gauthier]

It's telling you had to use China and North Korea as your best examples of alleged gun control.

UK has a higher violent crime rate, and less rights than the US. So whether a country is developed or not doesn't mean gun bans works.

Explore findings from the new report: "U.S. Health in International Perspectives"

And yet the UK has less deaths from violent crimes than the US. I wonder why.

[The United Communist Solar Republic]

Which we also have. You don't get either of those in China or North Korea.

You do in all of Scandinavia.

From Gunpolicy.org:

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Regulation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons
In Sweden, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is permitted only with special authorisation

Regulation of Handguns
In Sweden, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is permitted under licence, in some cases, but not for the protection of person or property

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Regulation of Automatic Assault Weapons
In Norway, private possession of fully automatic weapons is permitted under licence

Regulation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons
In Norway, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is permitted under licence

Regulation of Handguns
In Norway, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is permitted under licence

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Regulation of Automatic Assault Weapons
In Finland, private possession of fully automatic weapons is prohibited, with few exceptions

Regulation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons
In Finland, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is permitted under licence in some cases

Regulation of Handguns
In Finland, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is permitted under licence in some cases

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While it is fairly restricted, there is still quite a bit of leeway.

[Greed and Death]

But someone had the idea of disarming off-duty personnel.

The brass doesn't trust enlisted personnel.

If your not an MP or a general with a fondness for wearing his pistol everywhere you do not have access to your weapons except when your using it for training.