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Postby Rand al Thor » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:20 pm

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Edlichbury wrote:Thus why the kingdoms of Israel and Judea fell to pagan non-believers.


Well, when you are good in the eyes of the Lord, you will be blessed. When you turn away from God he will punish you, unless you turn back.


How do you know that the Bible was written by prophets of God and not prophets of Satan merely posing as God? Proof or get out.

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Postby Lost heros » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:Génesis 1

Genesis 1

Génesis 1:1 ^
En el principio crió Dios los cielos y la tierra.
Genesis 1:1 ^
In the beginning God made the heaven and the earth.
Génesis 1:2 ^
Y la tierra estaba desordenada y vacía, y las tinieblas estaban sobre la haz del abismo, y el Espíritu de Dios se movía sobre la haz de las aguas.
Genesis 1:2 ^
And the earth was waste and without form; and it was dark on the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God was moving on the face of the waters.
Génesis 1:3 ^
Y dijo Dios: Sea la luz: y fué la luz.
Genesis 1:3 ^
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Génesis 1:4 ^
Y vió Dios que la luz era buena: y apartó Dios la luz de las tinieblas.
Genesis 1:4 ^
And God, looking on the light, saw that it was good: and God made a division between the light and the dark,
Génesis 1:5 ^
Y llamó Dios á la luz Día, y á las tinieblas llamó Noche: y fué la tarde y la mañana un día.
Genesis 1:5 ^
Naming the light, Day, and the dark, Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.
Génesis 1:6 ^
Y dijo Dios: Haya expansión en medio de las aguas, y separe las aguas de las aguas.
Genesis 1:6 ^
And God said, Let there be a solid arch stretching over the waters, parting the waters from the waters.
Génesis 1:7 ^
E hizo Dios la expansión, y apartó las aguas que estaban debajo de la expansión, de las aguas que estaban sobre la expansión: y fué así.
Genesis 1:7 ^
And God made the arch for a division between the waters which were under the arch and those which were over it: and it was so.
Génesis 1:8 ^
Y llamó Dios á la expansión Cielos: y fué la tarde y la mañana el día segundo.
Genesis 1:8 ^
And God gave the arch the name of Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.
Génesis 1:9 ^
Y dijo Dios: Júntense las aguas que están debajo de los cielos en un lugar, y descúbrase la seca: y fué así.
Genesis 1:9 ^
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven come together in one place, and let the dry land be seen: and it was so.
Génesis 1:10 ^
Y llamó Dios á la seca Tierra, y á la reunión de las aguas llamó Mares: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:10 ^
And God gave the dry land the name of Earth; and the waters together in their place were named Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:11 ^
Y dijo Dios: Produzca la tierra hierba verde, hierba que dé simiente; árbol de fruto que dé fruto según su género, que su simiente esté en él, sobre la tierra: y fué así.
Genesis 1:11 ^
And God said, Let grass come up on the earth, and plants producing seed, and fruit-trees giving fruit, in which is their seed, after their sort: and it was so.
Génesis 1:12 ^
Y produjo la tierra hierba verde, hierba que da simiente según su naturaleza, y árbol que da fruto, cuya simiente está en él, según su género: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:12 ^
And grass came up on the earth, and every plant producing seed of its sort, and every tree producing fruit, in which is its seed, of its sort: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:13 ^
Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día tercero.
Genesis 1:13 ^
And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.
Génesis 1:14 ^
Y dijo Dios: Sean lumbreras en la expansión de los cielos para apartar el día y la noche: y sean por señales, y para las estaciones, y para días y años;
Genesis 1:14 ^
And God said, Let there be lights in the arch of heaven, for a division between the day and the night, and let them be for signs, and for marking the changes of the year, and for days and for years:
Génesis 1:15 ^
Y sean por lumbreras en la expansión de los cielos para alumbrar sobre la tierra: y fue.
Genesis 1:15 ^
And let them be for lights in the arch of heaven to give light on the earth: and it was so.
Génesis 1:16 ^
E hizo Dios las dos grandes lumbreras; la lumbrera mayor para que señorease en el día, y la lumbrera menor para que señorease en la noche: hizo también las estrellas.
Genesis 1:16 ^
And God made the two great lights: the greater light to be the ruler of the day, and the smaller light to be the ruler of the night: and he made the stars.
Génesis 1:17 ^
Y púsolas Dios en la expansión de los cielos, para alumbrar sobre la tierra,
Genesis 1:17 ^
And God put them in the arch of heaven, to give light on the earth;
Génesis 1:18 ^
Y para señorear en el día y en la noche, y para apartar la luz y las tinieblas: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:18 ^
To have rule over the day and the night, and for a division between the light and the dark: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:19 ^
Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día cuarto.
Genesis 1:19 ^
And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.
Génesis 1:20 ^
Y dijo Dios: Produzcan las aguas reptil de ánima viviente, y aves que vuelen sobre la tierra, en la abierta expansión de los cielos.
Genesis 1:20 ^
And God said, Let the waters be full of living things, and let birds be in flight over the earth under the arch of heaven.
Génesis 1:21 ^
Y crió Dios las grandes ballenas, y toda cosa viva que anda arrastrando, que las aguas produjeron según su género, y toda ave alada según su especie: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:21 ^
And God made great sea-beasts, and every sort of living and moving thing with which the waters were full, and every sort of winged bird: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:22 ^
Y Dios los bendijo diciendo: Fructificad y multiplicad, y henchid las aguas en los mares, y las aves se multipliquen en la tierra.
Genesis 1:22 ^
And God gave them his blessing, saying, Be fertile and have increase, making all the waters of the seas full, and let the birds be increased in the earth.
Génesis 1:23 ^
Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día quinto.
Genesis 1:23 ^
And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day.
Génesis 1:24 ^
Y dijo Dios: Produzca la tierra seres vivientes según su género, bestias y serpientes y animales de la tierra según su especie: y fué así.
Genesis 1:24 ^
And God said, Let the earth give birth to all sorts of living things, cattle and all things moving on the earth, and beasts of the earth after their sort: and it was so.
Génesis 1:25 ^
E hizo Dios animales de la tierra según su género, y ganado según su género, y todo animal que anda arrastrando sobre la tierra según su especie: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:25 ^
And God made the beast of the earth after its sort, and the cattle after their sort, and everything moving on the face of the earth after its sort: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:26 ^
Y dijo Dios: Hagamos al hombre á nuestra imagen, conforme á nuestra semejanza; y señoree en los peces de la mar, y en las aves de los cielos, y en las bestias, y en toda la tierra, y en todo animal que anda arrastrando sobre la tierra.
Genesis 1:26 ^
And God said, Let us make man in our image, like us: and let him have rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every living thing which goes flat on the earth.
Génesis 1:27 ^
Y crió Dios al hombre á su imagen, á imagen de Dios lo crió; varón y hembra los crió.
Genesis 1:27 ^
And God made man in his image, in the image of God he made him: male and female he made them.
Génesis 1:28 ^
Y los bendijo Dios; y díjoles Dios: Fructificad y multiplicad, y henchid la tierra, y sojuzgadla, y señoread en los peces de la mar, y en las aves de los cielos, y en todas las bestias que se mueven sobre la tierra.
Genesis 1:28 ^
And God gave them his blessing and said to them, Be fertile and have increase, and make the earth full and be masters of it; be rulers over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing moving on the earth.
Génesis 1:29 ^
Y dijo Dios: He aquí que os he dado toda hierba que da simiente, que está sobre la haz de toda la tierra; y todo árbol en que hay fruto de árbol que da simiente, seros ha para comer.
Genesis 1:29 ^
And God said, See, I have given you every plant producing seed, on the face of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit producing seed: they will be for your food:
Génesis 1:30 ^
Y á toda bestia de la tierra, y á todas las aves de los cielos, y á todo lo que se mueve sobre la tierra, en que hay vida, toda hierba verde les será para comer: y fué así.
Genesis 1:30 ^
And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the air and every living thing moving on the face of the earth I have given every green plant for food: and it was so.
Génesis 1:31 ^
Y vió Dios todo lo que había hecho, y he aquí que era bueno en gran manera. Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día sexto.
Genesis 1:31 ^
And God saw everything which he had made and it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

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Postby Democratic Republic of Sapientia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Sensorland wrote:Don't get me wrong, I believe in evolution. But there is no way it was all pure coincidence. I accept all views, and would defend any if necessary. But I think that the State has the right to educate us about other theories besides what we have "proof" of.

But the state should not allow non scientific theories to be presented in a science class, teaching the biblical account of genesis is fine in a religious studies class.

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Postby Warda » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Sensorland wrote:So it doesn't have to be in science, but it deserves to be taught in school, either way.

Why does it deserve to be taught?

Generally educating people on cultures is kinda the point of history class.
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Postby Tatooene » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Tatooene wrote:Neither creationism or evolution can be proved or disproved, so why should we not have schools teaching both of the theories? It would be terribly close-minded to take either one of them out of the classroom.

1. Evolution has been observed.
2. Evolution is one of the best established theory known to mankind.
3. Creationism makes no falsifiable and testable claims which means it is not a hypothesis let alone a theory.


Evolution is not falsifiable or testable either. Tell me, how does one test evolution? According to the Oxford Dictionary, "test" means "a procedure intended to establish the quality, performance, or reliability of something, especially before it is taken into widespread use." How does one test a situation that cannot be recreated? Quite simply, you can't.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Warda wrote:
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You're a theocrat? You want to impose your laws and rules onto everyone else?

Look at Iran for a second. Just image it's Christian now, you really want that?

Iran doesn't truly follow Islamic teachings. It's just a excuse for them do whatever they want.


My point is, Theocracy is bad. And even if Iran doesn't truly follow Islamic laws, who says a Theocratic America wouldn't follow the Christian laws and not end up like Iran?
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Postby Tatooene » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Tatooene wrote:Neither creationism or evolution can be proved or disproved, so why should we not have schools teaching both of the theories? It would be terribly close-minded to take either one of them out of the classroom.

1. Evolution has been observed.
2. Evolution is one of the best established theory known to mankind.
3. Creationism makes no falsifiable and testable claims which means it is not a hypothesis let alone a theory.


Evolution is not falsifiable or testable either. Tell me, how does one test evolution? According to the Oxford Dictionary, "test" means "a procedure intended to establish the quality, performance, or reliability of something, especially before it is taken into widespread use." How does one test a situation that cannot be recreated? Quite simply, you can't.
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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Sensorland wrote:
Democratic Republic of Sapientia wrote:Evolution by natural selection is not based off accident, it's a mechanism that describes the diversity of life, not the origin of life. Besides, it doesn't matter what seems to make sense to you, what matters is concrete evidence. The state can't educate people on young earth creationism because it is an inherently religious ideology and in the US there is nor official religion.

So they can educate the children about Christianity, and Islam, and they can teach them Judaism, and whatever else. There is no one the have to teach.

This is what churches, mosques, synagogues, temples, etc are for.

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Postby The Holy NeoSpanish Empire » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Utceforp wrote:
The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:
becouse they refuse god ,they help the evil doing so

God created everything that exists, and since evil exists, God must have created evil. Since he's omnipotent, and couldn't have accidentally created evil, God purposely created evil and purposely made humans imperfect and able to be tempted by evil, and then when the inevitable happened God punished us forever and ever for something he did. That's what religion implies.


no he didnt the demon is a rebel angel that wanted to be like god and create a tyranny he was defeated and sealed in the hell and both forces are the equilibrium of the world

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Postby The Corparation » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

The Tundra wrote:
Divair wrote:Creationism isn't a theory and evolution has been proven true for a long time.
http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms

evolution as the origins of humans isn't object truth, its a theory. if we are gonna be so fucking particular about vocabulary. evolution happens and is testable, evolution as how we came to be is not testable. every scientist knows this.

Its ridiculous to accept that Evolution happens and is testable but magically assume that one species of life is somehow immune to it. Especially when we have the fossil record backing up the fact that it has evolved.
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Postby Opuntia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Following new legislation in Theocracy of Texas, there is no other truth than young Earth creationism.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Warda wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Separation of church and state. Once you start breaching that line, you slowly descend into a Theocracy, which even a Christian like you must admit that's bad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta They seem like a pretty nice country.

I have no problem with creationist ideas being taught. If it is just that, being taught as this is what this group of people at x time believed. Having it addressed as a actual scientific idea is wrong for a education system to do, though.


That's fine for a simple paragraph. Problem is letting in to the science books; it will spread like cancer. Christians will want more and will start bitching it's not being respected if science teachers start show it's wrong and worst Christians start teaching it's right.
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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:22 pm

Tatooene wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:1. Evolution has been observed.
2. Evolution is one of the best established theory known to mankind.
3. Creationism makes no falsifiable and testable claims which means it is not a hypothesis let alone a theory.


Evolution is not falsifiable or testable either. Tell me, how does one test evolution? According to the Oxford Dictionary, "test" means "a procedure intended to establish the quality, performance, or reliability of something, especially before it is taken into widespread use." How does one test a situation that cannot be recreated? Quite simply, you can't.

Very fucking easily.
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Postby Need a Name » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:22 pm

Pavlostani wrote:
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Well it depends on which god.


You and the Muslims worship the same God though.

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But we see Him in two different ways.
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Postby Agritum » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:22 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:
Utceforp wrote:God created everything that exists, and since evil exists, God must have created evil. Since he's omnipotent, and couldn't have accidentally created evil, God purposely created evil and purposely made humans imperfect and able to be tempted by evil, and then when the inevitable happened God punished us forever and ever for something he did. That's what religion implies.


no he didnt the demon is a rebel angel that wanted to be like god and create a tyranny he was defeated and sealed in the hell and both forces are the equilibrium of the world

Paradise Lost isn't part of the Bible.

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Postby Lordieth » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:22 pm

Tatooene wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:1. Evolution has been observed.
2. Evolution is one of the best established theory known to mankind.
3. Creationism makes no falsifiable and testable claims which means it is not a hypothesis let alone a theory.


Evolution is not falsifiable or testable either. Tell me, how does one test evolution? According to the Oxford Dictionary, "test" means "a procedure intended to establish the quality, performance, or reliability of something, especially before it is taken into widespread use." How does one test a situation that cannot be recreated? Quite simply, you can't.


:meh:

They've done it with fruit flies for goodness sake. Evolution has been proven.
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Postby Pavlostani » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:22 pm

Opuntia wrote:Following new legislation in Theocracy of Texas, there is no other truth than young Earth creationism.


Another one of Archbishop Rick Perry's edicts I see.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:22 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:Génesis 1

Genesis 1

Génesis 1:1 ^
En el principio crió Dios los cielos y la tierra.
Genesis 1:1 ^
In the beginning God made the heaven and the earth.
Génesis 1:2 ^
Y la tierra estaba desordenada y vacía, y las tinieblas estaban sobre la haz del abismo, y el Espíritu de Dios se movía sobre la haz de las aguas.
Genesis 1:2 ^
And the earth was waste and without form; and it was dark on the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God was moving on the face of the waters.
Génesis 1:3 ^
Y dijo Dios: Sea la luz: y fué la luz.
Genesis 1:3 ^
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Génesis 1:4 ^
Y vió Dios que la luz era buena: y apartó Dios la luz de las tinieblas.
Genesis 1:4 ^
And God, looking on the light, saw that it was good: and God made a division between the light and the dark,
Génesis 1:5 ^
Y llamó Dios á la luz Día, y á las tinieblas llamó Noche: y fué la tarde y la mañana un día.
Genesis 1:5 ^
Naming the light, Day, and the dark, Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.
Génesis 1:6 ^
Y dijo Dios: Haya expansión en medio de las aguas, y separe las aguas de las aguas.
Genesis 1:6 ^
And God said, Let there be a solid arch stretching over the waters, parting the waters from the waters.
Génesis 1:7 ^
E hizo Dios la expansión, y apartó las aguas que estaban debajo de la expansión, de las aguas que estaban sobre la expansión: y fué así.
Genesis 1:7 ^
And God made the arch for a division between the waters which were under the arch and those which were over it: and it was so.
Génesis 1:8 ^
Y llamó Dios á la expansión Cielos: y fué la tarde y la mañana el día segundo.
Genesis 1:8 ^
And God gave the arch the name of Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.
Génesis 1:9 ^
Y dijo Dios: Júntense las aguas que están debajo de los cielos en un lugar, y descúbrase la seca: y fué así.
Genesis 1:9 ^
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven come together in one place, and let the dry land be seen: and it was so.
Génesis 1:10 ^
Y llamó Dios á la seca Tierra, y á la reunión de las aguas llamó Mares: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:10 ^
And God gave the dry land the name of Earth; and the waters together in their place were named Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:11 ^
Y dijo Dios: Produzca la tierra hierba verde, hierba que dé simiente; árbol de fruto que dé fruto según su género, que su simiente esté en él, sobre la tierra: y fué así.
Genesis 1:11 ^
And God said, Let grass come up on the earth, and plants producing seed, and fruit-trees giving fruit, in which is their seed, after their sort: and it was so.
Génesis 1:12 ^
Y produjo la tierra hierba verde, hierba que da simiente según su naturaleza, y árbol que da fruto, cuya simiente está en él, según su género: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:12 ^
And grass came up on the earth, and every plant producing seed of its sort, and every tree producing fruit, in which is its seed, of its sort: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:13 ^
Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día tercero.
Genesis 1:13 ^
And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.
Génesis 1:14 ^
Y dijo Dios: Sean lumbreras en la expansión de los cielos para apartar el día y la noche: y sean por señales, y para las estaciones, y para días y años;
Genesis 1:14 ^
And God said, Let there be lights in the arch of heaven, for a division between the day and the night, and let them be for signs, and for marking the changes of the year, and for days and for years:
Génesis 1:15 ^
Y sean por lumbreras en la expansión de los cielos para alumbrar sobre la tierra: y fue.
Genesis 1:15 ^
And let them be for lights in the arch of heaven to give light on the earth: and it was so.
Génesis 1:16 ^
E hizo Dios las dos grandes lumbreras; la lumbrera mayor para que señorease en el día, y la lumbrera menor para que señorease en la noche: hizo también las estrellas.
Genesis 1:16 ^
And God made the two great lights: the greater light to be the ruler of the day, and the smaller light to be the ruler of the night: and he made the stars.
Génesis 1:17 ^
Y púsolas Dios en la expansión de los cielos, para alumbrar sobre la tierra,
Genesis 1:17 ^
And God put them in the arch of heaven, to give light on the earth;
Génesis 1:18 ^
Y para señorear en el día y en la noche, y para apartar la luz y las tinieblas: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:18 ^
To have rule over the day and the night, and for a division between the light and the dark: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:19 ^
Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día cuarto.
Genesis 1:19 ^
And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.
Génesis 1:20 ^
Y dijo Dios: Produzcan las aguas reptil de ánima viviente, y aves que vuelen sobre la tierra, en la abierta expansión de los cielos.
Genesis 1:20 ^
And God said, Let the waters be full of living things, and let birds be in flight over the earth under the arch of heaven.
Génesis 1:21 ^
Y crió Dios las grandes ballenas, y toda cosa viva que anda arrastrando, que las aguas produjeron según su género, y toda ave alada según su especie: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:21 ^
And God made great sea-beasts, and every sort of living and moving thing with which the waters were full, and every sort of winged bird: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:22 ^
Y Dios los bendijo diciendo: Fructificad y multiplicad, y henchid las aguas en los mares, y las aves se multipliquen en la tierra.
Genesis 1:22 ^
And God gave them his blessing, saying, Be fertile and have increase, making all the waters of the seas full, and let the birds be increased in the earth.
Génesis 1:23 ^
Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día quinto.
Genesis 1:23 ^
And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day.
Génesis 1:24 ^
Y dijo Dios: Produzca la tierra seres vivientes según su género, bestias y serpientes y animales de la tierra según su especie: y fué así.
Genesis 1:24 ^
And God said, Let the earth give birth to all sorts of living things, cattle and all things moving on the earth, and beasts of the earth after their sort: and it was so.
Génesis 1:25 ^
E hizo Dios animales de la tierra según su género, y ganado según su género, y todo animal que anda arrastrando sobre la tierra según su especie: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:25 ^
And God made the beast of the earth after its sort, and the cattle after their sort, and everything moving on the face of the earth after its sort: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:26 ^
Y dijo Dios: Hagamos al hombre á nuestra imagen, conforme á nuestra semejanza; y señoree en los peces de la mar, y en las aves de los cielos, y en las bestias, y en toda la tierra, y en todo animal que anda arrastrando sobre la tierra.
Genesis 1:26 ^
And God said, Let us make man in our image, like us: and let him have rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every living thing which goes flat on the earth.
Génesis 1:27 ^
Y crió Dios al hombre á su imagen, á imagen de Dios lo crió; varón y hembra los crió.
Genesis 1:27 ^
And God made man in his image, in the image of God he made him: male and female he made them.
Génesis 1:28 ^
Y los bendijo Dios; y díjoles Dios: Fructificad y multiplicad, y henchid la tierra, y sojuzgadla, y señoread en los peces de la mar, y en las aves de los cielos, y en todas las bestias que se mueven sobre la tierra.
Genesis 1:28 ^
And God gave them his blessing and said to them, Be fertile and have increase, and make the earth full and be masters of it; be rulers over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing moving on the earth.
Génesis 1:29 ^
Y dijo Dios: He aquí que os he dado toda hierba que da simiente, que está sobre la haz de toda la tierra; y todo árbol en que hay fruto de árbol que da simiente, seros ha para comer.
Genesis 1:29 ^
And God said, See, I have given you every plant producing seed, on the face of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit producing seed: they will be for your food:
Génesis 1:30 ^
Y á toda bestia de la tierra, y á todas las aves de los cielos, y á todo lo que se mueve sobre la tierra, en que hay vida, toda hierba verde les será para comer: y fué así.
Genesis 1:30 ^
And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the air and every living thing moving on the face of the earth I have given every green plant for food: and it was so.
Génesis 1:31 ^
Y vió Dios todo lo que había hecho, y he aquí que era bueno en gran manera. Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día sexto.
Genesis 1:31 ^
And God saw everything which he had made and it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

Stop plagiarising from the Babylonians.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:22 pm

Tatooene wrote:Evolution is not falsifiable or testable either. Tell me, how does one test evolution? According to the Oxford Dictionary, "test" means "a procedure intended to establish the quality, performance, or reliability of something, especially before it is taken into widespread use." How does one test a situation that cannot be recreated? Quite simply, you can't.

I wonder how they are already doing something you can't...
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Postby Lydenburg » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:23 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Warda wrote:Iran doesn't truly follow Islamic teachings. It's just a excuse for them do whatever they want.


My point is, Theocracy is bad. And even if Iran doesn't truly follow Islamic laws, who says a Theocratic America wouldn't follow the Christian laws and not end up like Iran?


The problem is, theocracy makes sense in the minds of its advocates and some religious contexts - but they forget that one could argue the same for Marxism-Leninism. We're just too bloody imperfect to get anything that looks appealing on paper right.

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Postby The Holy NeoSpanish Empire » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:23 pm

Agritum wrote:
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no he didnt the demon is a rebel angel that wanted to be like god and create a tyranny he was defeated and sealed in the hell and both forces are the equilibrium of the world

Paradise Lost isn't part of the Bible.


see old bible

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:23 pm

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Napkiraly wrote:Why does it deserve to be taught?

Generally educating people on cultures is kinda the point of history class.

In that aspect, that's fine as long as it's taught alongside other creationist myths.

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The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:Génesis 1<SNIP>

The bible is a storybook, nothing more.

A storybook? Honestly? I would expect a better argument from an intolerant Atheist.
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Postby Edlichbury » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:23 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:Génesis 1

Genesis 1

Génesis 1:1 ^
En el principio crió Dios los cielos y la tierra.
Genesis 1:1 ^
In the beginning God made the heaven and the earth.
Génesis 1:2 ^
Y la tierra estaba desordenada y vacía, y las tinieblas estaban sobre la haz del abismo, y el Espíritu de Dios se movía sobre la haz de las aguas.
Genesis 1:2 ^
And the earth was waste and without form; and it was dark on the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God was moving on the face of the waters.
Génesis 1:3 ^
Y dijo Dios: Sea la luz: y fué la luz.
Genesis 1:3 ^
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Génesis 1:4 ^
Y vió Dios que la luz era buena: y apartó Dios la luz de las tinieblas.
Genesis 1:4 ^
And God, looking on the light, saw that it was good: and God made a division between the light and the dark,
Génesis 1:5 ^
Y llamó Dios á la luz Día, y á las tinieblas llamó Noche: y fué la tarde y la mañana un día.
Genesis 1:5 ^
Naming the light, Day, and the dark, Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.
Génesis 1:6 ^
Y dijo Dios: Haya expansión en medio de las aguas, y separe las aguas de las aguas.
Genesis 1:6 ^
And God said, Let there be a solid arch stretching over the waters, parting the waters from the waters.
Génesis 1:7 ^
E hizo Dios la expansión, y apartó las aguas que estaban debajo de la expansión, de las aguas que estaban sobre la expansión: y fué así.
Genesis 1:7 ^
And God made the arch for a division between the waters which were under the arch and those which were over it: and it was so.
Génesis 1:8 ^
Y llamó Dios á la expansión Cielos: y fué la tarde y la mañana el día segundo.
Genesis 1:8 ^
And God gave the arch the name of Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.
Génesis 1:9 ^
Y dijo Dios: Júntense las aguas que están debajo de los cielos en un lugar, y descúbrase la seca: y fué así.
Genesis 1:9 ^
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven come together in one place, and let the dry land be seen: and it was so.
Génesis 1:10 ^
Y llamó Dios á la seca Tierra, y á la reunión de las aguas llamó Mares: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:10 ^
And God gave the dry land the name of Earth; and the waters together in their place were named Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:11 ^
Y dijo Dios: Produzca la tierra hierba verde, hierba que dé simiente; árbol de fruto que dé fruto según su género, que su simiente esté en él, sobre la tierra: y fué así.
Genesis 1:11 ^
And God said, Let grass come up on the earth, and plants producing seed, and fruit-trees giving fruit, in which is their seed, after their sort: and it was so.
Génesis 1:12 ^
Y produjo la tierra hierba verde, hierba que da simiente según su naturaleza, y árbol que da fruto, cuya simiente está en él, según su género: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:12 ^
And grass came up on the earth, and every plant producing seed of its sort, and every tree producing fruit, in which is its seed, of its sort: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:13 ^
Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día tercero.
Genesis 1:13 ^
And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.
Génesis 1:14 ^
Y dijo Dios: Sean lumbreras en la expansión de los cielos para apartar el día y la noche: y sean por señales, y para las estaciones, y para días y años;
Genesis 1:14 ^
And God said, Let there be lights in the arch of heaven, for a division between the day and the night, and let them be for signs, and for marking the changes of the year, and for days and for years:
Génesis 1:15 ^
Y sean por lumbreras en la expansión de los cielos para alumbrar sobre la tierra: y fue.
Genesis 1:15 ^
And let them be for lights in the arch of heaven to give light on the earth: and it was so.
Génesis 1:16 ^
E hizo Dios las dos grandes lumbreras; la lumbrera mayor para que señorease en el día, y la lumbrera menor para que señorease en la noche: hizo también las estrellas.
Genesis 1:16 ^
And God made the two great lights: the greater light to be the ruler of the day, and the smaller light to be the ruler of the night: and he made the stars.
Génesis 1:17 ^
Y púsolas Dios en la expansión de los cielos, para alumbrar sobre la tierra,
Genesis 1:17 ^
And God put them in the arch of heaven, to give light on the earth;
Génesis 1:18 ^
Y para señorear en el día y en la noche, y para apartar la luz y las tinieblas: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:18 ^
To have rule over the day and the night, and for a division between the light and the dark: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:19 ^
Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día cuarto.
Genesis 1:19 ^
And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.
Génesis 1:20 ^
Y dijo Dios: Produzcan las aguas reptil de ánima viviente, y aves que vuelen sobre la tierra, en la abierta expansión de los cielos.
Genesis 1:20 ^
And God said, Let the waters be full of living things, and let birds be in flight over the earth under the arch of heaven.
Génesis 1:21 ^
Y crió Dios las grandes ballenas, y toda cosa viva que anda arrastrando, que las aguas produjeron según su género, y toda ave alada según su especie: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:21 ^
And God made great sea-beasts, and every sort of living and moving thing with which the waters were full, and every sort of winged bird: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:22 ^
Y Dios los bendijo diciendo: Fructificad y multiplicad, y henchid las aguas en los mares, y las aves se multipliquen en la tierra.
Genesis 1:22 ^
And God gave them his blessing, saying, Be fertile and have increase, making all the waters of the seas full, and let the birds be increased in the earth.
Génesis 1:23 ^
Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día quinto.
Genesis 1:23 ^
And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day.
Génesis 1:24 ^
Y dijo Dios: Produzca la tierra seres vivientes según su género, bestias y serpientes y animales de la tierra según su especie: y fué así.
Genesis 1:24 ^
And God said, Let the earth give birth to all sorts of living things, cattle and all things moving on the earth, and beasts of the earth after their sort: and it was so.
Génesis 1:25 ^
E hizo Dios animales de la tierra según su género, y ganado según su género, y todo animal que anda arrastrando sobre la tierra según su especie: y vió Dios que era bueno.
Genesis 1:25 ^
And God made the beast of the earth after its sort, and the cattle after their sort, and everything moving on the face of the earth after its sort: and God saw that it was good.
Génesis 1:26 ^
Y dijo Dios: Hagamos al hombre á nuestra imagen, conforme á nuestra semejanza; y señoree en los peces de la mar, y en las aves de los cielos, y en las bestias, y en toda la tierra, y en todo animal que anda arrastrando sobre la tierra.
Genesis 1:26 ^
And God said, Let us make man in our image, like us: and let him have rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every living thing which goes flat on the earth.
Génesis 1:27 ^
Y crió Dios al hombre á su imagen, á imagen de Dios lo crió; varón y hembra los crió.
Genesis 1:27 ^
And God made man in his image, in the image of God he made him: male and female he made them.
Génesis 1:28 ^
Y los bendijo Dios; y díjoles Dios: Fructificad y multiplicad, y henchid la tierra, y sojuzgadla, y señoread en los peces de la mar, y en las aves de los cielos, y en todas las bestias que se mueven sobre la tierra.
Genesis 1:28 ^
And God gave them his blessing and said to them, Be fertile and have increase, and make the earth full and be masters of it; be rulers over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing moving on the earth.
Génesis 1:29 ^
Y dijo Dios: He aquí que os he dado toda hierba que da simiente, que está sobre la haz de toda la tierra; y todo árbol en que hay fruto de árbol que da simiente, seros ha para comer.
Genesis 1:29 ^
And God said, See, I have given you every plant producing seed, on the face of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit producing seed: they will be for your food:
Génesis 1:30 ^
Y á toda bestia de la tierra, y á todas las aves de los cielos, y á todo lo que se mueve sobre la tierra, en que hay vida, toda hierba verde les será para comer: y fué así.
Genesis 1:30 ^
And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the air and every living thing moving on the face of the earth I have given every green plant for food: and it was so.
Génesis 1:31 ^
Y vió Dios todo lo que había hecho, y he aquí que era bueno en gran manera. Y fué la tarde y la mañana el día sexto.
Genesis 1:31 ^
And God saw everything which he had made and it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

Stop plagiarising from the Babylonians.

Stop writing good shit before us then!

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