Tech Discussion Thread: Long live the Calculator Master Race

[Aeken]

In the short-term, maybe, but ditching Bing in the long-term isn't a good idea.

Xbox, meh.

I don't see much of a point in keeping Bing alive. It's not doing terribly well.

They should at least keep Outlook alive.

[Divair]

I don't see much of a point in keeping Bing alive. It's not doing terribly well.

They should at least keep Outlook alive.

Part of their enterprise sector. They'd never kill it.

[Aeken]

They should at least keep Outlook alive.

Part of their enterprise sector. They'd never kill it.

Would they kill MSN?

[Divair]

Part of their enterprise sector. They'd never kill it.

Would they kill MSN?

It was already killed. Skype took over.

[Divair]

YESSSSS
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new ... lease-date

[Aeken]

Would they kill MSN?

It was already killed. Skype took over.

It wasn't killed... I use it as my homepage.

[Divair]

It was already killed. Skype took over.

It wasn't killed... I use it as my homepage.

Oh, that MSN. Probably.

[Ainin]

In the short-term, maybe, but ditching Bing in the long-term isn't a good idea.

Xbox, meh.

I don't see much of a point in keeping Bing alive. It's not doing terribly well.

It's become a pretty important component of Windows.

Ditching it would cause also hurt Microsoft's public image by making it look inconsistent.

Part of their enterprise sector. They'd never kill it.

Would they kill MSN?

MSN probably doesn't cost that much to maintain.

[Divair]

It's become a pretty important component of Windows.

Ditching it would cause also hurt Microsoft's public image by making it look inconsistent.

If there were a sizable number of people using Bing, perhaps, but it has a bad reputation. Wouldn't be surprised if Elop sold it to Apple, actually.

[Ainin]

It's become a pretty important component of Windows.

Ditching it would cause also hurt Microsoft's public image by making it look inconsistent.

If there were a sizable number of people using Bing, perhaps, but it has a bad reputation. Wouldn't be surprised if Elop sold it to Apple, actually.

Quite sizable (19th) (also, these sites are also powered by Bing: MSN (20th) and Yahoo (4th)).

And the reputation is getting better, at the expense of Google.

[Czechanada]

The new Nexus 5 is too expensive for my taste.

[Regnum Dominae]

If there were a sizable number of people using Bing, perhaps, but it has a bad reputation. Wouldn't be surprised if Elop sold it to Apple, actually.

Quite sizable (19th) (also, these sites are also powered by Bing: MSN (20th) and Yahoo (4th)).

And the reputation is getting better, at the expense of Google.

I'm going to keep using good old Google.

[Divair]

If there were a sizable number of people using Bing, perhaps, but it has a bad reputation. Wouldn't be surprised if Elop sold it to Apple, actually.

Quite sizable (19th) (also, these sites are also powered by Bing: MSN (20th) and Yahoo (4th)).

And the reputation is getting better, at the expense of Google.

Yahoo powered by Bing. wat.

[Czechanada]

Quite sizable (19th) (also, these sites are also powered by Bing: MSN (20th) and Yahoo (4th)).

And the reputation is getting better, at the expense of Google.

I'm going to keep using good old Google.

Not Blackle? That's not very environmentally friendly of you.

[Ainin]

Quite sizable (19th) (also, these sites are also powered by Bing: MSN (20th) and Yahoo (4th)).

And the reputation is getting better, at the expense of Google.

Yahoo powered by Bing. wat.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8174763.stm

[Divair]

Yahoo powered by Bing. wat.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8174763.stm

Why have I never heard of this before? TIL.

[Aeken]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8174763.stm

Why have I never heard of this before? TIL.

Really? You didn't know?

[Divair]

Why have I never heard of this before? TIL.

Really? You didn't know?

Nope. I was aware that Apple had gone over to using Bing, but not Yahoo as well.

[Regnum Dominae]

I'm going to keep using good old Google.

Not Blackle? That's not very environmentally friendly of you.

Only saving 0.02 watt/hour per second out of all its users combined. So pretty much meaningless.

[Ainin]

Really? You didn't know?

Nope. I was aware that Apple had gone over to using Bing, but not Yahoo as well.

Yahoo had to trim its losses somehow.

[Ainin]

Not Blackle? That's not very environmentally friendly of you.

Only saving 0.02 watt/hour per second out of all its users combined. So pretty much meaningless.

“What we are doing is just a drop in the ocean. But if that drop was not in the ocean, I think the ocean would be less because of that missing drop. I do not agree with the big way of doing things.”
- Mother Theresa

Nah, just kidding

[Aeken]

Really? You didn't know?

Nope. I was aware that Apple had gone over to using Bing, but not Yahoo as well.

That's why I don't see why selling Bing would accomplish anything other than cutting losses. It's too spread out into everything and it's crucial to use. And I wouldn't want it to be Apple's.

[Czechanada]

Not Blackle? That's not very environmentally friendly of you.

Only saving 0.02 watt/hour per second out of all its users combined. So pretty much meaningless.

It's the thought that counts.

[Lemanrussland]

http://www.openssh.com/txt/gcmrekey.adv

Anyone running OpenSSH 6.2 or 6.3 that's been built against an OpenSSL which supports AES-GCM should disable AES-GCM in the server configuration.

Here are some tests of OpenSSH and OpenSSL from popular Linux distributions. The ones with asterisks (with a vulnerable OpenSSH and OpenSSL combination) should turn it off. OpenBSD 5.4 is affected as well, so turn it off if you're running that too.

* Arch Linux -- Version match: OpenSSH_6.3p1, OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013 (Supports AES-GCM)
CentOS 5.10 -- OpenSSH_4.3p2, OpenSSL 0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 01 Jul 2008 (No AES-GCM support)
CentOS 6.4 -- OpenSSH_5.3p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0-fips 29 Mar 2010 (No AES-GCM support)
Debian 6 (squeeze) -- OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6+squeeze4, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 (No AES-GCM support)
Debian 7 (wheezy) -- OpenSSH_6.0p1 Debian-4, OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013 (Supports AES-GCM)
Fedora 18 (Spherical Cow) -- OpenSSH_6.1p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0-fips 29 Mar 2010 (Supports AES-GCM)
* Fedora 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) -- Version match: OpenSSH_6.2p2, OpenSSL 1.0.0-fips 29 Mar 2010 (Supports AES-GCM)
openSUSE 12.3 (Dartmouth) -- OpenSSH_6.1p1, OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013 (Supports AES-GCM)
Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid) -- OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7, OpenSSL 0.9.8k 25 Mar 2009 (No AES-GCM support)
Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS (Precise) -- OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-5ubuntu1.1, OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012 (Supports AES-GCM)
Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal) -- OpenSSH_6.0p1 Debian-3ubuntu1, OpenSSL 1.0.1c 10 May 2012 (Supports AES-GCM)
* Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy) -- Version match: OpenSSH_6.2p2 Ubuntu-6, OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013 (Supports AES-GCM)

EDIT: To turn it off, add this line

Code: Select all

Ciphers aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc

to your sshd_config file.

[Divair]

I wonder if Nokia is planning on inviting deadmau5 to do another event for the next gen of devices. He's already done two before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX2Gd-kqV5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKlWsRALJg