Should Racism be a chargeable offense?

[Distruzio]

Of course not. Stupidity is punishment enough. Stupidity, itself, only harms those possessed of it. Only the acts of stupid people should be considered punishable.

[Central Slavia]

The death penalty serves to eliminate a known dangerous animal.

While LwP does exactly the same, is able to be reversed if the accused is proven innocent, and costs less. Also, rehabilitation serves to also remove someone dangerous, while adding a productive citizen to society if possible and again, being able to allow innocents to go free.

Uh, no. It doesn't remove someone dangerous, and I'd never trust someone like the sort of people who get executed with anything more dangerous than a dull pencil. Oh, have you seen the new piece of research suggesting psychopaths can switch between a state of feeling empathy, and not? Therefore someone might easily appear sorted out, then resort to their old behaviour once released, likely much harder to uncover. And there's nothing more disgusting than innocent lives being lost because the state chose to protect the life of a scum who should have been executed.

First of all, just revenge is just. All you present in the post you linked is an absurd ad hominem argument - it'd make us in some way like them so it must be bad.

Second of all, death penalty doesn't increase crime - it's other features of the US law and overall social system which do. It probably doesn't decrease it either beyond removing a single perpetrator from the world - but that's not the point anyways.

Ah, that may not have been been clear from that post, but my point was that suffering is bad. Anything we can do to decrease overall suffering is good, and anything we can do to increase it is wrong.

I disagree. We have no obligation towards those who chose to abandon the rules society has set out. If they wanted to be treated like a human being, they shouldn't have committed the acts they did.

This is a feature of my personal moral system and may, unfortunately, not be agreed with by you. But if something can reduce the overall number of murders, and increase the number of people who add something to society, I will advocate for that. The death penalty does neither. (Also, the context was not the death penalty, it was someone who stated that some people need to "suffer at any cost." So some of the arguments may have been inapplicable here)

Death penalty eliminates dangerous people, and prevents them from ever committing a crime again.

As for "just revenge": When does revenge become unjust? When does it become just? What is the line of justice? "An eye for an eye?" Gandhi and Jesus had a few things to say about that.

Edit: Actually, I linked to the wrong post. A much better version can be found here. Again, somewhat context-sensitive.

Revenge become unjust when it targets people who are not the perpetrator, or when it is disproportional to the deed.
Eye for an eye is a very succint way to put it, and since neither Gandhi nor Jesus are any sort of moral authority for me. . .

[Shnercropolis]

That wold be racisist!

[The Truth and Light]

Stupidity, itself, only harms those possessed of it.

"Stupidity in a vacuum doesn't harm anyone!"

You know better than to say shit like that.

[Risottia]

He is, as MP.
He's also being prosecuted for having sex with a minor, and he's under a decadence process from the Senate for being sentenced guilty of tax fraud. Plus other stuff. Both charges entail a ban from holding office, so... looks like Silvio won't have his parliamentary immunity shielding him from incitement charges very soon. Just like everyone else.
He'll better watch his mouth.

Soon, two out of the three biggest parties in Italy will have leaders who are unable to hold office.
Good old Italy - so, how's the 'Ndrangheta?

Thriving.

[Darussalam]

Indeed it is, just as many other anti-liberty ideologies invented by usurping corporations, the ruling class and capitalist fundamentalist imperialism of old countries.

[New Snickerdoodle]

Racism is bad, but free speech is better!

[New Socialist South Africa]

Racism is the ignorant belief that someone is more valuable, worthy or in some way or form better simply because of the colour of their skin (something they have no choice over and a belief that isn't true). If this ignorance manifests into hatred then it can lead to beliefs of inferiority of supremacy based on race. This abominable belief, and the race hatred, violence, intolerance, bias and belittlement it creates should be a chargeable crime. Offenders should go to places of education that would to a simplified statement remind them of the facts that regardless of race we are all human and that we should be judged "not on the colour of our skin, but on the. content of our character" (adapted from statement by Martin Luther King Jr.). This would serve to create equality and tolerance (and hopefully even friendship) between the peoples of different races. Ignorance must not be an excuse for racist hatred.

[Distruzio]

Stupidity, itself, only harms those possessed of it.

"Stupidity in a vacuum doesn't harm anyone!"

You know better than to say shit like that.

I dont think what i said was incorrect. Im not harmed by a stupid man unless he acts against me.