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Should racism be a chargeable offense?

Poll ended at Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:17 am

Yes
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No
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Depends on the case
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Postby Rhinostan » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:34 am

No, Freedom of Speech.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:35 am

Saint Panda wrote:Thanks for your opinions (and insults) :roll:


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Postby Opuntia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:35 am

Luveria wrote:After you make sexism a chargeable offence.

And ageism, lookism, mentalism, rankism, sexualism, sizeism and weightism. :roll:

The fact remains that it will always be highly abused if we ban discrimination in general.
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Postby Dragonic Outland » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:35 am

Vicswampia wrote:
Benuty wrote: :eyebrow: seriously?

Yep.

Racism should not be allowed to be targeted to individuals, and those that insult Africans should be commended. Most definitely indeed.
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Postby Undivulged Principles » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:35 am

If racism is a crime then everyone is guilty.
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Postby Apollonesia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:36 am

Upper Domain wrote:Absolutely not. It would be selectively enforced against white people by liberal activist judges on the "behalf" of racial minorities. An excuse to disenfranchise conservative voters through felony convictions.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:36 am

Risottia wrote:
Saint Panda wrote:Thanks for your opinions (and insults) :roll:


Protip: If you think you've been insulted, report the offending post in Moderation. Better checking the rules first, though, and double-checking what you're alleging to be an insult.

Disagreeing is an insult.

Opuntia wrote:
Luveria wrote:After you make sexism a chargeable offence.

And ageism, lookism, mentalism, rankism, sexualism, sizeism and weightism. :roll:

The fact remains that it will always be highly abused if we ban discrimination in general.

Those are all excellent proposals that should be considered after the bans on racism and sexism are in place.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:36 am

It already is.
Because usually, racism manifests in a series of manners that are already legislated against.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:37 am

Opuntia wrote:The fact remains that it will always be highly abused if we ban discrimination in general.


Discrimination based on sex, race, social or national origin, wealth, language, political opinion, religion etc is already banned in most developed countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHR#Artic ... rimination
I don't see lots of abuses coming from that.
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Postby Ayreonia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:37 am

Luveria wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Protip: If you think you've been insulted, report the offending post in Moderation. Better checking the rules first, though, and double-checking what you're alleging to be an insult.

Disagreeing is an insult.

Opuntia wrote:And ageism, lookism, mentalism, rankism, sexualism, sizeism and weightism. :roll:

The fact remains that it will always be highly abused if we ban discrimination in general.

Those are all excellent proposals that should be considered after the bans on racism and sexism are in place.

How do you think those would be enforced?
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Postby Luveria » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:37 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:It already is.
Because usually, racism manifests in a series of manners that are already legislated against.

Those are racism motivated actions which can be illegal, not the racism itself.

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Postby Luveria » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:38 am

Ayreonia wrote:
Luveria wrote:Disagreeing is an insult.


Those are all excellent proposals that should be considered after the bans on racism and sexism are in place.

How do you think those would be enforced?

Policies against workplace discrimination are a start.

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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:38 am

No.

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:39 am

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Postby Shaggai » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:39 am

Aggravating circumstance, yes. Crime, no.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:40 am

Luveria wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:It already is.
Because usually, racism manifests in a series of manners that are already legislated against.

Those are racism motivated actions which can be illegal, not the racism itself.

Exactly.
Racism, as long as it stays in the racist's brain, is a very stupid but perfectly legitimate opinion.
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Postby Osarius » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:40 am

Unless it's harming someone... why should it be?
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Postby Luveria » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:41 am

Risottia wrote:
Luveria wrote:Those are racism motivated actions which can be illegal, not the racism itself.

Exactly.
Racism, as long as it stays in the racist's brain, is a very stupid but perfectly legitimate opinion.

As such, it's difficult to enforce a ban against racist thoughts. We don't have the technology for it yet.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:41 am

Luveria wrote:
Risottia wrote:Exactly.
Racism, as long as it stays in the racist's brain, is a very stupid but perfectly legitimate opinion.

And such, it's difficult to enforce a ban against racist thoughts. We don't have the technology for it yet.

It's called "eradication through education". :)
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Postby Vicswampia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:42 am

Dragonic Outland wrote:Racism should not be allowed to be targeted to individuals, and those that insult Africans should be commended. Most definitely indeed.
/sarcasm


No, what I meant is that defamation can be aggravated with racism, while we have no rights to enforce someone not to be racist.

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Postby Luveria » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:42 am

Risottia wrote:
Luveria wrote:And such, it's difficult to enforce a ban against racist thoughts. We don't have the technology for it yet.

It's called "eradication through education". :)

That's already been doing well at significantly reducing racism.

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Postby Opuntia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:42 am

Luveria wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Protip: If you think you've been insulted, report the offending post in Moderation. Better checking the rules first, though, and double-checking what you're alleging to be an insult.

Disagreeing is an insult.

Opuntia wrote:And ageism, lookism, mentalism, rankism, sexualism, sizeism and weightism. :roll:

The fact remains that it will always be highly abused if we ban discrimination in general.

Those are all excellent proposals that should be considered after the bans on racism and sexism are in place.

How about no, you crazy dutch bastard. :p No offense to the Dutch or to you if you were Dutch.

Banning forms of thought never bodes well. Let's avoid making thought crimes commitable, aight?
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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:44 am

Opuntia wrote:How about no, you crazy dutch bastard.


This constitutes both trollbaiting and flaming, and you shouldn't be.
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Postby Saint Panda » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:44 am

Luveria wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Protip: If you think you've been insulted, report the offending post in Moderation. Better checking the rules first, though, and double-checking what you're alleging to be an insult.

Disagreeing is an insult.

Opuntia wrote:And ageism, lookism, mentalism, rankism, sexualism, sizeism and weightism. :roll:

The fact remains that it will always be highly abused if we ban discrimination in general.

Those are all excellent proposals that should be considered after the bans on racism and sexism are in place.


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Postby Luveria » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:44 am

Opuntia wrote:
Luveria wrote:Disagreeing is an insult.


Those are all excellent proposals that should be considered after the bans on racism and sexism are in place.

How about no, you crazy dutch bastard. :p No offense to the Dutch or to you if you were Dutch.

Banning forms of thought never bodes well. Let's avoid making thought crimes commitable, aight?

1) I'm not crazy.
2) I'm not Dutch.
3) I'm not a bastard.
4) If you've been reading into my posts here, you would have noticed I'm not advocating the establishing of the Thought Police.

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