Should Racism be a chargeable offense?

[Dakini]

Hell No. And anyone who disagrees can kiss my racist ass.

You didn't have to point out that you're racist; your flag told us that much already.

[The Second Brotherhood of Planets]

"Everyone is racist" is racist code for "Stop acting like I'm a bad person just because I'm a racist!"

No, it's a recognition that we tend to classify based upon race, and additionally tend to form opinions based upon race, even if unconsciously so. Most of it isn't as overt as assuming that Asians can't drive, or that all Mexicans are lazy. Usually it's something as subtle as tensing up a bit when you realize that it's a young black man behind you on the street at night, and tensing up in a way that likely wouldn't happen were it a young white man or young Asian man following you. It's actually not a huge deal, and it's mostly a result of exposure to the media. The only ones who are immune are those who have been completely cut off from the media for their entire lives, or those who are blind, deaf, and mute.

Why thank you, sir, for your defense. It seems, though, that the former example (the person who was never exposed to the media) would still be a victim of racism or racist doctrine. Since racism can be generated by culture. As in "we must defend ourselves from those darker folk over there. They'll rape our women and steal our lands if we're not careful!" Many isolated communities tend to develop such thoughts as a meas of protection/survival.

Many of those thoughts stay for thousands of years and bam! It becomes ingrained.

[Dakini]

No, it's a recognition that we tend to classify based upon race, and additionally tend to form opinions based upon race, even if unconsciously so. Most of it isn't as overt as assuming that Asians can't drive, or that all Mexicans are lazy. Usually it's something as subtle as tensing up a bit when you realize that it's a young black man behind you on the street at night, and tensing up in a way that likely wouldn't happen were it a young white man or young Asian man following you. It's actually not a huge deal, and it's mostly a result of exposure to the media. The only ones who are immune are those who have been completely cut off from the media for their entire lives, or those who are blind, deaf, and mute.

It's also demonstrably true that a young black man walking about at night is several times more likely to be a thug than a young white man, both chosen at random.

You should put some sauce on the bullshit before plating it and presenting it to the rest of us.

[Des-Bal]

Snort snort chuckle.

You're an opponent of free speech, your response validates my claim.

[Tyriece]

You "freedom this freedom that" nutters realize that the constitution permits freedom of speech but limits it.

[Aquafireland]

Pretty much.

[Ponderosa]

No, freedom of speech, racism is just a view that doesn't hurt anyone, it would be unenforceable anyway, etc.

Just set up a telescreen in everyone's house. Then at least you could enforce vocal thoughtcrime.

[Des-Bal]

You "freedom this freedom that" nutters realize that the constitution permits freedom of speech but limits it.

The constitution can suck my cock I don't now and have not ever given a solitary fuck about the opinions of long dead statesmen.

[Tyriece]

You "freedom this freedom that" nutters realize that the constitution permits freedom of speech but limits it.

The constitution can suck my cock I don't now and have not ever given a solitary fuck about the opinions of long dead statesmen.

Oh boy we have a winner folks...

[The Truth and Light]

You're an opponent of free speech

I'm laughing again.

[Dakini]

You "freedom this freedom that" nutters realize that the constitution permits freedom of speech but limits it.

*shrug*
Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. If you make racist statements at work or in such a way that's associated with your work, your employer is entitled to take disciplinary action. If you're a celebrity and you make racist statements publicly, you may lose sponsorships and job opportunities.

[Des-Bal]

Oh boy we have a winner folks...

There's a ridiculous idea that you can substitute "constitutional" for "right". That is fallacious.

[Des-Bal]

I'm laughing again.

...I think "freedom of speech" is a load of trash

[Tyriece]

Oh boy we have a winner folks...

There's a ridiculous idea that you can substitute "constitutional" for "right". That is fallacious.

The constitution is what insures you your rights...

[Big Jim P]

There's a ridiculous idea that you can substitute "constitutional" for "right". That is fallacious.

The constitution is what insures you your rights...

No, it merely lists them.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

No, it's a recognition that we tend to classify based upon race, and additionally tend to form opinions based upon race, even if unconsciously so. Most of it isn't as overt as assuming that Asians can't drive, or that all Mexicans are lazy. Usually it's something as subtle as tensing up a bit when you realize that it's a young black man behind you on the street at night, and tensing up in a way that likely wouldn't happen were it a young white man or young Asian man following you. It's actually not a huge deal, and it's mostly a result of exposure to the media. The only ones who are immune are those who have been completely cut off from the media for their entire lives, or those who are blind, deaf, and mute.

It's also demonstrably true that a young black man walking about at night is several times more likely to be a thug than a young white man, both chosen at random.

Nonsense. There are a number of factors involved, and race is the most meaningless of them all.

[Des-Bal]

The constitution is what insures you your rights...

Why in the actual fuck would that mean that only constitutional things are right?

[Raxion]

When it's unfair hate, like firing somebody because they're not the same race as you, then yes, but if it's a reasonable race-based joke then no. I say it depends.

[Big Jim P]

The constitution is what insures you your rights...

Why in the actual fuck would that mean that only constitutional things are right?

Without a legal framework, there is only one right: the right to attempt to survive.

[Des-Bal]

No, it merely lists them.

The Sultanates of Khartoum issued Hakuras to the chieftans of the land. These Hakuras gave them the power to own some land and settle some disputes. In reality what those Hakuras did was formalize the power of the sultanate to dictate who owned land and who had the power to settle disputes.

[Opuntia]

No, it's a recognition that we tend to classify based upon race, and additionally tend to form opinions based upon race, even if unconsciously so. Most of it isn't as overt as assuming that Asians can't drive, or that all Mexicans are lazy. Usually it's something as subtle as tensing up a bit when you realize that it's a young black man behind you on the street at night, and tensing up in a way that likely wouldn't happen were it a young white man or young Asian man following you. It's actually not a huge deal, and it's mostly a result of exposure to the media. The only ones who are immune are those who have been completely cut off from the media for their entire lives, or those who are blind, deaf, and mute.

It's also demonstrably true that a young black man walking about at night is several times more likely to be a thug than a young white man, both chosen at random.

Ha ha, no. A source pleases me more than an ever-so-blatantly racist remark.

[Placenza]

If it was, it would be infringing on freedom of speech.

[Des-Bal]

Without a legal framework, there is only one right: the right to attempt to survive.

I'm going to start saying proper because apparently people are attaching an s whenever I say right.

[The Scientific States]

I am strongly opposed to all forms of racism, but still I answer no.

Besides, how would you enforce it?

[Opuntia]

Snort snort chuckle.

You're an opponent of free speech, your response validates my claim.

Orwell wrote nothing more than fiction that gives your kids bad dreams.