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On why no one must know about Nationstates :p

Postby Sealord Laerio Grynsell » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:15 pm

The title may be a little too much, but hear me out.

So, I was having dinner with my parents, and they were quite interested in my discussions on the forum. So, I was just talking with them about the thing that I liked the most: the fact that you have all these ideologies here, from anarcho-monarchism to fascism. But... I shouldn't have said I was having discussions with fascists.

My parents were not amused, and the ranting about fascism (which I probably know thrice as well as them by know) and such was pretty weird.

So, any thoughts on this? Did anything comparable happen to you? Do you balk at telling friends and/or family what you discuss sometimes on Nationstates?

Just curious :p.
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Postby Vicswampia » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:23 pm

What happens in the internet stays in the internet.

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Postby Sealord Laerio Grynsell » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:24 pm

Vicswampia wrote:What happens in the internet stays in the internet.


Haha, exactly.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:26 pm

I'm actually an AI, so I don't have "real life discussions" or a "family".
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Postby Blekksprutia » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:27 pm

Sealord Laerio Grynsell wrote:The title may be a little too much, but hear me out.

So, I was having dinner with my parents, and they were quite interested in my discussions on the forum. So, I was just talking with them about the thing that I liked the most: the fact that you have all these ideologies here, from anarcho-monarchism to fascism. But... I shouldn't have said I was having discussions with fascists.

My parents were not amused, and the ranting about fascism (which I probably know thrice as well as them by know) and such was pretty weird.

So, any thoughts on this? Did anything comparable happen to you? Do you balk at telling friends and/or family what you discuss sometimes on Nationstates?

Just curious :p.

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Postby Tsuntion » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:27 pm

I use sense and don't bring up things likely to inspire long debates or rants if I don't want to hear them. I do this for NS and all other material, online and offline.
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Postby Sealord Laerio Grynsell » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:28 pm

Blekksprutia wrote:
Sealord Laerio Grynsell wrote:The title may be a little too much, but hear me out.

So, I was having dinner with my parents, and they were quite interested in my discussions on the forum. So, I was just talking with them about the thing that I liked the most: the fact that you have all these ideologies here, from anarcho-monarchism to fascism. But... I shouldn't have said I was having discussions with fascists.

My parents were not amused, and the ranting about fascism (which I probably know thrice as well as them by know) and such was pretty weird.

So, any thoughts on this? Did anything comparable happen to you? Do you balk at telling friends and/or family what you discuss sometimes on Nationstates?

Just curious :p.

That's what you get when something's on the Internet...all the armpits of the world come and rub up against NS -- Neo-Nazis, adspammers, picspammers who post nasty-ass pictures, trolls... that's just a fact of life about the web, and something we just have to suck up.


I'll give that a virtual nod.
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Postby Surfistan » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:41 pm

Don't drop the word fascism at the table.

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Postby Sealord Laerio Grynsell » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:41 pm

Surfistan wrote:Don't drop the word fascism at the table.


Indeed, apparently. I've learned the lesson now, tho.
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Postby New Octopucta » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:51 pm

Fascism is one of those words where the connotation has supplanted the actual meaning. Most people in Western countries hear fascist and automatically change it to Nazi. I would recommend not using it outside of NS and discussions with people who have studied politics.

That said, considering that most of my family are conservative Christians, I don't discuss the things I post about on NSG.

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Postby Saint Kitten » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:08 pm

Avoid anything that doesn't involve Capitalism and a free market, free elections, and whatever the president says true/false (depending) and you should be fine
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Postby 4years » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:57 pm

Sealord Laerio Grynsell wrote:The title may be a little too much, but hear me out.

So, I was having dinner with my parents, and they were quite interested in my discussions on the forum. 1. So, I was just talking with them about the thing that I liked the most: the fact that you have all these ideologies here, from anarcho-monarchism to fascism. But... I shouldn't have said I was having discussions with fascists.

2. My parents were not amused, and the ranting about fascism (which I probably know thrice as well as them by know) and such was pretty weird.

3. So, any thoughts on this? 4. Did anything comparable happen to you? 5. Do you balk at telling friends and/or family what you discuss sometimes on Nationstates?

Just curious :p.


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Postby Wytenigistan » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:05 pm

I showed my commie friend because I wanted him to make a nation. He said it was too intense for him, and was a little shocked at my political views (which I do not express very often in real life for obvious reasons). He has subsequently tried to debate me and if there is drinking involved things get heated.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:34 pm

When I'm talking about things I see on Nationstates, y'all are just "people I know."

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:39 pm

My family tolerates everything until I mention I report wrong doers as they are afraid of people coming after me.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:39 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:When I'm talking about things I see on Nationstates, y'all are just "people I know."

Pretty much this.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:41 pm

Should have been here during the old JOLT days when we had threads about how best to give a blow job.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:45 pm

My mom doesn't care, as long as I stay anonymous.

My father finds nice that I talk about important topics with people elsewhere all over the world and that I'm practically fluent in English except for hearing and speaking without ever doing a language course.

People here are generally nicer and smarter than the average ones in Brazil and all the unnice people are mostly on other continents so
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:50 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Should have been here during the old JOLT days when we had threads about how best to give a blow job.


How discriminatory to asexuals. :P

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Postby The Carlisle » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:03 pm

I based my practice college essay on it. Nationstates has effected my life a lot so it was the number one topic to write about. I worded it pretty weirdly but we are currently doing another college essay this year so I'll be able to use the prompt and topic from the previous one.
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Postby Zonolia » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:07 pm

I don't talk to my family about NationStates, why? Because any positive mention of abortion rights, immigrate rights, worker rights, the Democratic Party, black people, and especially Obama, or my political beliefs...and I will get yelled at to the ends of earth for being a "damn liberal who supports Obama and is turning america into a socialist dystopia"

But such is the life of being a Left wing Texan...
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Postby Austro-German Prussia » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:09 pm

If I was your parent, I'd be more concerned about having left-wing beliefs shoved down your throat by an altogether intolerant base.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:13 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:When I'm talking about things I see on Nationstates, y'all are just "people I know."

Ditto. Nearly all my friends think I'm weird for being on here, so I've learned to do it discreetly.

As for the OP, I've had an almost identical experience. When I went to a 4th of July party a couple months ago, I brought up having discussions with fascists. The hosts were very skeptical of my claim that people actually held those views, and even when I explained what those views were, they were still not buying it. Of course, I don't know for sure that these people actually hold these views, but they seem pretty darn convinced.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:13 pm

Vicswampia wrote:What happens in the internet stays in the internet.

This.

I can't have the conversations I have here in my social life. I know a couple of people I can seriously discuss politics with, ranging from the true implications and application of Communism, Fascism, etc, but most of the time people here anything other that Republican and Democrat and get freaked out.

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Postby Thurask » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:13 pm

Oi, no politics or religion at the dinner table.
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