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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:15 pm

If someone wants to get fat, they have that right. Fast food is very cheap, and would be logical for a food stamp.

Of course, I am opposed to wellfare anyways.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:15 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Makes good sense, provided they are willing to issue more stamps and higher limit food cards to cover the increased cost.

...Except you know they're not.

Which is why it's just "vote for us because we hate the poor lol" run-of-the-mill Republicanism.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:15 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Except that's usually kind of all poor people can reasonably afford on food stamps, you know.


Oh shit. You mean poor people are so poor that Hershey bars are what is keeping them from starvation?
You know what a lot of them do with that money? Buy tons of pop. Yeah, so they can go sell it down the street and buy dope.

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Postby Blasveck » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:16 pm

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The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Except that's usually kind of all poor people can reasonably afford on food stamps, you know.


Oh shit. You mean poor people are so poor that Hershey bars are what is keeping them from starvation?
You know what a lot of them do with that money? Buy tons of pop. Yeah, so they can go sell it down the street and buy dope.


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Postby 4years » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:16 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:I'm not seeing the problem. You don't need to go buy chips or candy bars with food stamps.


Yes you do because healthy food is more expensive than junk food. So unless the value of food stamps is changed to correspond or measures are taken to cut the cost of healthy food people on food stamps suddenly find that they can purchase less food.
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Postby Leningrad Union » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:16 pm

Why should food stamps be wasted on junk food? If you waste food stamps on crap food, you won't just be poor. You will also be unhealthy.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:16 pm

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The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Except that's usually kind of all poor people can reasonably afford on food stamps, you know.


Oh shit. You mean poor people are so poor that Hershey bars are what is keeping them from starvation?

In some cases, that's pretty much not even exaggeration.
The Grey Wolf wrote:You know what a lot of them do with that money? Buy tons of pop. Yeah, so they can go sell it down the street and buy dope.

AND THEY'RE ALL MURDERERS AND NIGHT-STABBERS TOO!
I'm not even sure how this relates to the topic at hand here. So you think poor people are pretty much all drug dealers. Cool for you.
Plus, food stamps aren't money, so I'm not quite sure how that fits into your picture. You read the OP, right?
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Postby Aeken » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:17 pm

Ban junk food for everyone, why don't you?

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Postby Neo-Mlytoria » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:17 pm

Blasveck wrote:How are the Republicans fascist and how are the Dems Stalinist?
Look at the Wikipedia articles for both and see how many traits you can align. It's quite shocking really.

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So is wanting everyone to be a liberty-less wage-and-debt slave to the government, essentially property, not Stalinism now?
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Postby Condunum » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:17 pm

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You know what would be better than this? Chasing down companies that have driven the prices of healthier food choices into the stars simply for profit, at the sake of the health of all of society.
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:17 pm

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Blasveck wrote:1. Aren't they all about "Freedom to choose!" Shit or whatever?

2. WHY IS MY OWN CONGRESS MAKING STUPID BILLS LIKE THIS AND TRYING TO REPEAL OBAMACARE FOR THE 47TH TIME? YOU WERE ELECTED TO GOVERN. START GOVERNING SHIT.

They've only attempted to repeal it 40 times thus far, not 47. Although Boehner is considering a 41st attempt.

This is a good proposal, it has my support. People living on welfare shouldn't be allowed to have the luxury of junk food; providing it just gives people one more reason to stay on welfare, and that drags down the economy, which is obviously terrible.

However, I implore the house to pass a continuing resolution, raise the debt ceiling, and pass the senate's immigration reform, before taking this issue up.


Considering that Congress spends the vast majority of its time doing nothing, fitting in an extra law would have no impact on the other laws being past. They're on hold anyway, so Congress might as well, you know, do some Congressing in the mean time.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:18 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:Why should food stamps be wasted on junk food? If you waste food stamps on crap food, you won't just be poor. You will also be unhealthy.

That's not how food stamps work.
Healthy food is more expensive than cheap food, and food stamps don't buy much.
You can either go hungry with healthy stuff, or fill your belly with crap. Which are you going to pick, honestly?
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Postby 4years » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:18 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:1. Why should food stamps be wasted on junk food? 2. If you waste food stamps on crap food, you won't just be poor. You will also be unhealthy.


1. Junk food is cheaper than healthy food. So food stamps will go further.
2. People choose being unhealthy over being hungry...... I wonder why?
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Postby Cameroi » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:18 pm

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i read the topic question. if it is at odds with the op, i didn't create the topic.


It's the first half of a grammatically correct sentence and a clever way at deducing who reads the OP and who just reads the title and jumps in.

If you'd read the OP you'd know this.


there is nothing "clever" about the "right" to deceive, which is a wrong. if you looked beyond the claim of it being "clever" or a right, you not belabor my point.

if anything, you have just made for me my point, of the moral poverty of so called conservatism.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:18 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:Why should food stamps be wasted on junk food? If you waste food stamps on crap food, you won't just be poor. You will also be unhealthy.

Junk food is cheap and tastes good *nods
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Postby Nigerian Kenya » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:18 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:If someone wants to get fat, they have that right. Fast food is very cheap, and would be logical for a food stamp.

Of course, I am opposed to wellfare anyways.

But, why should the average taxpayer be paying for obesity? There really is no concrete reason. We can't do away with welfare or people will beg for money on the streets. But we need to have a system that gives people the help they need, but at the same time incentivizes them to get a job and start paying taxes and contributing to the economy. And a ban on buying junk food with food stamps is a very good step to take in order to accomplish that goal.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:18 pm

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Blasveck wrote:How are the Republicans fascist and how are the Dems Stalinist?
Look at the Wikipedia articles for both and see how many traits you can align. It's quite shocking really.

"Go to Wikipedia and agree with me" isn't an actual argument that will convince anyone here, just so you know.
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Genivaria wrote:That's a crock of shit.
So is wanting everyone to be a liberty-less wage-and-debt slave to the government, essentially property, not Stalinism now?

*citation needed*
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Postby Leningrad Union » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:19 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:Why should food stamps be wasted on junk food? If you waste food stamps on crap food, you won't just be poor. You will also be unhealthy.

Junk food is cheap and tastes good *nods

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Postby Katganistan » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:19 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Makes good sense, provided they are willing to issue more stamps and higher limit food cards to cover the increased cost.

But that won't ever happen.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:20 pm

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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:If someone wants to get fat, they have that right. Fast food is very cheap, and would be logical for a food stamp.

Of course, I am opposed to wellfare anyways.

But, why should the average taxpayer be paying for obesity? There really is no concrete reason. We can't do away with welfare or people will beg for money on the streets. But we need to have a system that gives people the help they need, but at the same time incentivizes them to get a job and start paying taxes and contributing to the economy. And a ban on buying junk food with food stamps is a very good step to take in order to accomplish that goal.

It's a great way to get the poor to starve, seeing as how you can't buy much fancy organic shit with food stamps, what with it being relatively expensive and all.
This measure would make sense, as NPE said, if it was in conjunction with a move to raise the amount of money put into food stamps so poor people could actually afford to buy healthy.
As it currently stands this is pretty much an attempt to replace junk food with a heaping helping of...nothing!
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:20 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:Why should food stamps be wasted on junk food? If you waste food stamps on crap food, you won't just be poor. You will also be unhealthy.

Junk food is cheap and tastes good *nods


And I should pay for you to buy it.

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Postby Crysuko » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:21 pm

So a post about poor people getting screwed over led to people calling each other names and slinging "citation needed lol" around.



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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:21 pm

I have to ask, what sort of consumer watchdogs and corporate regulation do you have in America?

I ask as the last info I remember was Jamie Oliver being chased out a town by an angry mob with pitchforks and torches, Torches! At four in the afternoon!....(.sorry, couldn't resist) when he tried to expose how unhealthy school lunches were.
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:21 pm

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Threlizdun wrote:And in the meantime the poor starve. I prefer letting people eat than getting cheaper chips.

So they can eat junk food...I'm all for healthy food, and organic non pesticide whatever-the-fuck but your post is flawed.
How is my post flawed? Letting people eat junk food is better than letting them starve from their inability to afford adequate meals. It's not a very hard concept to grasp.
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Postby Condunum » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:21 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:relatively expensive

I really, really hope you mean that as relative to other costs, as opposed to relative meaning less than shocking.
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