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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:03 pm

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We live in a world where many people lack basic decency and respect for sexuality.

That one-quarter of men commit rape and that one-quarter of women kill their children prove this fact.

wait wait wait what?
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:03 pm

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Christian Democrats wrote::(

We live in a world where many people lack basic decency and respect for sexuality.

That one-quarter of men commit rape and that one-quarter of women kill their children prove this fact.


"One quarter of women kill their children"

Really?

Source? I hope to God that isn't true.

He's talking about abortion.
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23% of men in famous 'rape village'...
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:03 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote::(

We live in a world where many people lack basic decency and respect for sexuality.

That one-quarter of men commit rape and that one-quarter of women kill their children prove this fact.

wait wait wait what?

He's talking about abortion.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:04 pm

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I'm not sure that this qualifies as rape.

Other than that, though, these findings are quite disturbing.

How is that not rape?

Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?


Because while the use of force could be involved, it could just as easily not be involved.

She did not want to, but she agreed anyway because her boyfriend / husband was being stubborn / annoying / whatever. I don't really think of that as rape. If her boyfriend or husband threatens her in order to get her to have sex with them, then I do consider it rape.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:And?..

I'm unsure what "values" you're talking about, and really I don't care. I'm talking about rape culture as a value.

I'm talking about things such as Confucianism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, and differing prevailing and mainstream opinions and values within societies.

You're suggesting that 'Asia' has a somewhat shared culture, like Europe. The vast majority of the world doesn't see rape as bad it should be seen, and this isn't something limited to 'Asia.'
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:04 pm

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Yes and I highly doubt a military dictatorship would go on a rampage killing everyone suspected of communism if the Dutch was still in power.

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Considering that the Western countries greatly supported the killings, I would think it might have. And it's not like things were wonderful under the Dutch.
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Postby Blasveck » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:05 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
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"One quarter of women kill their children"

Really?

Source? I hope to God that isn't true.

He's talking about abortion.


I realize that and made an edit to my original post.
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Postby The Merchant Republics » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:05 pm

I... What. Fuck no.

Ugh. Just ugh.

What is wrong with you Asia...

I don't even know what there is to say.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:06 pm

I believe "SQUICK" is an appropriate initial reaction.
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:06 pm

The Merchant Republics wrote:I... What. Fuck no.

Ugh. Just ugh.

What is wrong with you Asia...

I don't even know what there is to say.

Six countries that don't have much to do with each other culturally.

Not to mention, Papua New Guinea isn't even considered part of Asia.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:06 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:I'm unsure what "values" you're talking about, and really I don't care. I'm talking about rape culture as a value.

I'm talking about things such as Confucianism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, and differing prevailing and mainstream opinions and values within societies.

You're suggesting that 'Asia' has a somewhat shared culture, like Europe.

That's because I'm referring to an Asian who phrased it that way.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:06 pm

Las Palmeras wrote:I believe "SQUICK" is an appropriate initial reaction.

mine was: *snicker*
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Postby Las Palmeras » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:08 pm

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Las Palmeras wrote:I believe "SQUICK" is an appropriate initial reaction.

mine was: *snicker*
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Like United Marxist Nations said...I very much hope many of these statistics are bad jokes.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:08 pm

Las Palmeras wrote:I believe "SQUICK" is an appropriate initial reaction.

An understatement.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:08 pm

Keronians wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:How is that not rape?

Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?


Because while the use of force could be involved, it could just as easily not be involved.

She did not want to, but she agreed anyway because her boyfriend / husband was being stubborn / annoying / whatever. I don't really think of that as rape. If her boyfriend or husband threatens her in order to get her to have sex with them, then I do consider it rape.


That's considered coercion and just as much rape, and not what the question was asking. The fact that you don't consider it rape is rather scary.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:Women are being raped but screw that let's focus on how they shouldn't have the right to abortion. That is truly misogyny of impressive proportion. Bravo.

All such wrongs are fueled by the sentiment that one individual ought to have unjust power over another.

Relevant to rape. Irrelevant to abortion since there is no "another" individual involved. And no, this is not an abortion thread.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:09 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Las Palmeras wrote:I believe "SQUICK" is an appropriate initial reaction.

An understatement.


Admittingly, it doesn't get better if you calm down to think about it.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:09 pm

Blasveck wrote:And people say we're shit in America?

I mean, unless rape statistics are higher here. I doubt it though.

I wouldn't be shocked of anything at this point given how high it is in Papua New Guinea.
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:09 pm

Las Palmeras wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:mine was: *snicker*
I am ashamed.


Like United Marxist Nations said...I very much hope many of these statistics are bad jokes.

This was all in developing countries where the average person makes much less than the global GDP per capita, which tend to be pretty conservative. Not very surprising, honestly.
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Furious Grandmothers wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:All such wrongs are fueled by the sentiment that one individual ought to have unjust power over another.

Relevant to rape. Irrelevant to abortion since there is no "another" individual involved. And no, this is not an abortion thread.

Oh but it is, because disusing rape as a problem isn't a good thing. Wouldn't want women to start having rights now, would we?
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Postby Norstal » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:10 pm

The Merchant Republics wrote:I... What. Fuck no.

Ugh. Just ugh.

What is wrong with you Asia...

I don't even know what there is to say.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:11 pm

Furious Grandmothers wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:All such wrongs are fueled by the sentiment that one individual ought to have unjust power over another.

Relevant to rape. Irrelevant to abortion since there is no "another" individual involved. And no, this is not an abortion thread.

Not so long ago, some societies held similar views about women.
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Because while the use of force could be involved, it could just as easily not be involved.

She did not want to, but she agreed anyway because her boyfriend / husband was being stubborn / annoying / whatever. I don't really think of that as rape. If her boyfriend or husband threatens her in order to get her to have sex with them, then I do consider it rape.


That's considered coercion and just as much rape, and not what the question was asking. The fact that you don't consider it rape is rather scary.


In which case, it is quite probable that a significant percentage of women, and a significant percentage of both men and women in the West, have also committed rape.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:13 pm

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That's considered coercion and just as much rape, and not what the question was asking. The fact that you don't consider it rape is rather scary.


In which case, it is quite probable that a significant percentage of women, and a significant percentage of both men and women in the West, have also committed rape.


Again you misread the question, it said nothing about her actually agreeing. Second that is very possibly true.
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