23% of men in parts of Asia admit to rape

[Telsia]

Is it bad that from all of this what makes me the maddest is that, everyone outside the region lump PNG, New Caledonia, Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, Tonga, soloman islands, etc as part of Asia or the "Asia-Pacific". We are either Australasia(after all, every else is named after their continent-what are we some how less than you lot?) Or Oceania( better than nothing- Asia/Asia-Pacific is nothing, as it describes nothing of our region)

Whilst rapes are high in PNG, its different than what causes rape in China, Philippines or India.

PNG is a very undeveloped country, people still set up tribal wars over honour, women, etc only now they have Ak's and glock's rather than spears and bows. Whilst rapes in China are about power and sexual gratifacation, "rapes" in PNG can be part of cultural constructs and may not even be considered "rapes" by the "victims", you cant just come from another culture and unilaterally declare, "hey you, yeah you, you've been raped! No shit! I swear!"

I wouldnt be surprised if it was really 2.5-3.5 for rape in PNG.

[Aquafireland]

Or some assholes thought it was funny to answer yes.

God i hope so.

Pretty much.

[Ethel mermania]

i wonder what the percentage would be if marital rape were taken out of the equation.

the largest group said "sexual entitlement" which in manyh cultures is unfortunely a spouse not taking no for an answer.

[Freelanderness]

Just so we're clear, you think it's reasonable to threaten the end of a relationship if one partner says they don't want to have sex tonight?

Yes, because it is perfectly justifiable and within their right to do so.

"Nice" and "reasonable" do not always coincide.

Ah, I wish you luck in your future relationships. And I hope the girl(boy?) will press charges if you ever try that shit on them.

[Australasia]

Asia, man. Non-developed nations in Asia.

Fixed.

You won't see these numbers in a developed democratic Asian country, nor would there be a culture of men feeling sexually entitled in the developed Asian countries.

[Aurora Novus]

Yes, because it is perfectly justifiable and within their right to do so.

"Nice" and "reasonable" do not always coincide.

Ah, I wish you luck in your future relationships. And I hope the girl(boy?) will press charges if you ever try that shit on them.

I would never act in such a manner in a relationship, particularly because it isn't nice. I want a partnership, not some form of distorted tug of war. And I personally find the idea of threatening to end the relationship as a tool to get what you want to be disgraceful. Unless it is something very serious, it's just cruel.

You just don't get it. We don't make laws on what's "nice". We makes laws on what is just. Just because it's not nice to act a particular way, doesn't mean it's not within your right to act that way.

By the same token, pressing charges would be meaningless, because no illegal action had been committed.

[Neu California]

Ah, I wish you luck in your future relationships. And I hope the girl(boy?) will press charges if you ever try that shit on them.

I would never act in such a manner in a relationship, particularly because it isn't nice. I want a partnership, not some form of distorted tug of war. And I personally find the idea of threatening to end the relationship as a tool to get what you want to be disgraceful. Unless it is something very serious, it's just cruel.

You just don't get it. We don't make laws on what's "nice". We makes laws on what is just. Just because it's not nice to act a particular way, doesn't mean it's not within your right to act that way.

By the same token, pressing charges would be meaningless, because no illegal action had been committed.

Except an illegal act has been commited.

Legal definition of rape Massachusetts

Coercion
Coercion is the use of emotional manipulation to persuade someone to something they may not want to do – like being sexual or performing certain sexual acts. Examples of some coercive statements include: “If you love me you would have sex with me .”, “If you don't have sex with me I will find someone who will.”, and “I'm not sure I can be with someone who doesn't want to have sex with me.” Coercive statements are often part of many campus acquaintance rapes. Being coerced into having sex or performing sexual acts is not consenting to having sex and is considered rape/sexual assault.

Nice try, though.

[Aurora Novus]

I would never act in such a manner in a relationship, particularly because it isn't nice. I want a partnership, not some form of distorted tug of war. And I personally find the idea of threatening to end the relationship as a tool to get what you want to be disgraceful. Unless it is something very serious, it's just cruel.

You just don't get it. We don't make laws on what's "nice". We makes laws on what is just. Just because it's not nice to act a particular way, doesn't mean it's not within your right to act that way.

By the same token, pressing charges would be meaningless, because no illegal action had been committed.

Except an illegal act has been commited.

Legal definition of rape Massachusetts

And I am fully willing to dispute that definition in a court of law, on the basis that defining coercion by things which are perfectly justifiably and within your right to do is nonsense. Otherwise you are saying there are times when people cannot leave a relationship, whenver they please, for whatever reason they please. This is the problem with your definition. It can, legally, endorse a form of servitude.

Nice try, though.

Again, I dispute your definition of coercion. It is inaccurate and flawed at it's very core. Nice try, though.

[Wikkiwallana]

Asia, man. Non-developed nations in Asia.

Fixed.

You won't see these numbers in a developed democratic Asian country, nor would there be a culture of men feeling sexually entitled in the developed Asian countries.

Have you ever looked at Japan's sexual assault figures?

[Neu California]

Except an illegal act has been commited.

Legal definition of rape Massachusetts

And I am fully willing to dispute that definition in a court of law, on the basis that defining coercion by things which are perfectly justifiably and within your right to do is nonsense. Otherwise you are saying there are times when people cannot leave a relationship, whenver they please, for whatever reason they please. This is the problem with your definition. It can, legally, endorse a form of servitude.

Try it. See how it goes. I guarantee you that your defense will be laughed out of court.

Hell, just ask a lawyer how well such a defense would go in court.

Nice try, though.

Again, I dispute your definition of coercion. It is inaccurate and flawed at it's very core. Nice try, though.

It's not inaccurate (being the legal definition of coercion, ergo accurate) or flawed. Nice try, though

[Aurora Novus]

Try it. See how it goes. I guarantee you that your defense will be laughed out of court.

Hell, just ask a lawyer how well such a defense would go in court.

Funny enough, I have serious reason to doubt what you say.

Further more, whether or not such an act would work in court isn't what I'm concerned with. Courts can be wrong, and courts can support injustices. It still would not deter me from making that exact argument, because I know it is fundamentally more just than any other proposition.

Again, unless you support being able to enslave people to others, you cannot reasonably defend your position. If you can punish someone for having had sex with someone after threatening to leave them, you are saying in some circumstances, you do not have a right to leave your partner.

:roll: It's not inaccurate (being the legal definition of coercion, ergo accurate) or flawed. Nice try, though

What you're saying is that a perfectly justifiable action is legally reprimanble. That utilizing a right you have is recourse for punishment.

Unless you view supporting injustice as "accurate", your definition is not accurate in any sense of the term. That it is the legal definition used in some juristicions doesn't make it "accurate".

[The Huskar Social Union]

That is terrible and sickening, especially entertainment being one of the main motivations for it.

Entertainment?

Yep, says in the article near 2/3rds down:

"The second most common motivation reported was to rape as a form of entertainment, so for fun or because they were bored."

[Arumdaum]

Asia, man. Non-developed nations in Asia.

Fixed.

You won't see these numbers in a developed democratic Asian country, nor would there be a culture of men feeling sexually entitled in the developed Asian countries.

*developing parts of Asia which have absolutely nothing to do with each other culturally

would be more accurate

[Arumdaum]

Fixed.

You won't see these numbers in a developed democratic Asian country, nor would there be a culture of men feeling sexually entitled in the developed Asian countries.

Have you ever looked at Japan's sexual assault figures?

Although not sexual assault, Japan has a much lower rape rate than countries such as the UK, Germany, Ireland, Austria, and France.

I'm assuming that this might have to do with rapes in Japan possibility being reported less, but I don't know.

[Kingdom of Israel]

Oh my

[Ostroeuropa]

I have trouble taking reports like this seriously when the person conducting it is clearly fucking incompetent and it throws their results into question as a result.

"How do I find out how many people are rapists, i'll ask the following"

Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?
Have you ever had sex with a woman or girl when she was too drunk or drugged to say whether she wanted it or not?
They recorded their answers on hand-held computers while the interviewer left the room.

You have failed, do not pass go, etc.
Anyone who needs it explained to them why these questions are fundamentally flawed and sexist isn't necessarily a moron, but if you work in a field where it's your job to specifically be able to craft poll questions and you fuck up like this it becomes obvious that you are either a moron or a conscious sexist. Laypeople have an excuse, but these people are supposedly trained.



I wonder how many people are rude to waiters...
"Ever be rude to a waiter cos shes a woman?" 14% of people rude to waiters, well I guess i'd better publish doo-be-doo... jackasses.
The fact that as a random person I can immediately see this problem and they didn't puts their entire organization into question, and makes their results questionable.
Why the fuck should I assume they are any better at gathering answers than they are at crafting questions?

[Camelza]

Sick profligates.
There's nothing that can be done about this though, sadly.

[Telsia]

Fixed.

You won't see these numbers in a developed democratic Asian country, nor would there be a culture of men feeling sexually entitled in the developed Asian countries.

*developing parts of Asia which have absolutely nothing to do with each other culturally

would be more accurate

WRONG! DAMN IT!

Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Fiji, Tonga, Australia, New Zealand, Vanuatu, New Calidonia, Samoa, etc ARE NOT APART OF ASIAN, YOU CONDESCENDING ARSEHOLES!

So is the USA and Canada apart of Europe? I guess India is in Africa! Brazil? Obviously Chinese!

Bunch of Racist, ingnorant outsiders. AUSTRALASIA is the Continental shelf they on, or Oceania for Just the small far flung islands.

[Arumdaum]

*developing parts of Asia which have absolutely nothing to do with each other culturally

would be more accurate

WRONG! DAMN IT!

Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Fiji, Tonga, Australia, New Zealand, Vanuatu, New Calidonia, Samoa, etc [b]ARE NOT APART OF ASIAN, YOU CONDESCENDING ARSEHOLES!

So is the USA and Canada apart of Europe? I guess India is in Africa! Brazil? Obviously Chinese!

Bunch of Racist, ingnorant outsiders. AUSTRALASIA is the Continental shelf they on, or Oceania for Just the small far flung islands.

*not getting the point of this post*

[Telsia]

*not getting the point of this post*

For one they are Artificialy inflating asia's by adding a different region to it, i.e. adding the USA's crime Statistics to Canada's and saying Canada is a crime ridden hellhole with a 99% crime rate!

[Furious Grandmothers]

Yale tries to tell us what consent is. Now apply them to this study. Heh.