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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:41 pm

Kistan wrote:Asia, man. Asia.

Well look at their pornography industry, what do you expect?
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Postby Rocopurr » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:41 pm

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Rocopurr wrote:Sickening, there isn't much else to say besides that.

Heartbreaking, maybe? But it's hard to compare with the feelings of anger and revulsion.

Well, if you can get past the rage then yes, it is heartbreaking.

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Postby Blasveck » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:41 pm

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Why do you say that?

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We have to remember, Asia is a BIG place, and holds....what percentage of the human population?
60 percent?
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The Parkus Empire wrote:Wasn't there an Asian poster a bit back who was complaining at how sickeningly misogynistic the U.S. is compared to Asian countries?

Also: this is fucking sickening.

I remember that one. But Asia is a big place and that person was comparing it to East Asia, I think.

Yeah, Korea, but they also compared the misogyny of the U.S. unfavorably to China's and Japan's.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:43 pm

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Kistan wrote:Asia, man. Asia.

Well look at their pornography industry, what do you expect?


Pornography is hardly to blame for such travesties. It is the ones who act on their impulsive sexual fantasies exacerbated by the potential excitement of it.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:43 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:Vain hope.


We have to remember, Asia is a BIG place, and holds....what percentage of the human population?
60 percent?

Which is one reason I think there has to be some kind of experimental error; surely, there were some assholes who lied and put yes for shits and giggles; that's still sick, but I would rather have that than 23% of men in Asia being rapists.
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Xoriet wrote:This story in particular made me sick.


There's a gang rape in India reported pretty much every other week.
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Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un wrote:The Democratic peoples republic of Korea makes up 0% of the crimes!

Korea isn't part of this.
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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:44 pm

Benuty wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Well look at their pornography industry, what do you expect?


Pornography is hardly to blame for such travesties. It is the ones who act on their impulsive sexual fantasies exacerbated by the potential excitement of it.


Essentially, this^
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:45 pm

That's just sickening.
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:45 pm

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Kistan wrote:Asia, man. Asia.

Well look at their pornography industry, what do you expect?

Places such as Thailand and Japan aren't part of it.

Papua New Guinea Bougainville Island - 62%
Indonesia Papua Province - 48.6%
Indonesia urban - 26.2%
China urban/rural - 22.2%
Cambodia - 20.4%
Indonesia rural - 19.5%
Sri Lanka - 14.5%
Bangladesh rural - 14.1%
Bangladesh urban - 9.5%

Just Papua New Guinea, Indonesia, China, Cambodia, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh. Six countries.
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Benuty wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Well look at their pornography industry, what do you expect?


Pornography is hardly to blame for such travesties. It is the ones who act on their impulsive sexual fantasies exacerbated by the potential excitement of it.

I'm not blaming the pornography exactly...I'm saying its abundant fetishization of rape is indicative of a strong rape culture.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:46 pm

That's beyond terrible.

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Blasveck wrote:
Xoriet wrote:This story in particular made me sick.


There's a gang rape in India reported pretty much every other week.


I noticed that. Looking up one incident produces an endless amount of similar articles.
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:47 pm

Blasveck wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Vain hope.


We have to remember, Asia is a BIG place, and holds....what percentage of the human population?
60 percent?

Not to mention that most nations have little to nothing to do with each other culturally...
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Arumdaum wrote:Places such as Thailand

Thailand has about the worst child sex trafficking problem in the world, so yeah.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:Wasn't there an Asian poster a bit back who was complaining at how sickeningly misogynistic the U.S. is compared to Asian countries?

Also: this is fucking sickening.

Asia's a pretty large place, with different regions having different value systems, different prevailing religions, differing levels of development, etc.
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I'm sure this is just in really barbaric, savage tribes of -
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The Parkus Empire wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Places such as Thailand

Thailand has about the worst child sex trafficking problem in the world, so yeah.

And? It doesn't detract from what I said.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:49 pm

Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?


I'm not sure that this qualifies as rape.

Other than that, though, these findings are quite disturbing.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:Wasn't there an Asian poster a bit back who was complaining at how sickeningly misogynistic the U.S. is compared to Asian countries?

Also: this is fucking sickening.

Asia's a pretty large place, with different regions having different value systems, different prevailing religions, differing levels of development, etc.

Japan is also has an issue with hard rape culture: http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/05/ ... 5620070515
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The BBC wrote:Almost a quarter of men surveyed in a UN report looking at violence against women in parts of Asia have admitted to committing at least one rape.

Rape was particularly common within relationships. However, one in 10 men admitted raping a woman who was not their partner.

Ten thousand men from six countries took part in the survey.

It is the first multi-country study to examine how widespread violence against women is and the reasons behind it.

Of those who admitted rape, just under half said they had done so more than once.

The prevalence of rape varied between countries.

In Papua New Guinea, more than six out of 10 men surveyed admitted forcing a woman to have sex.

It was least common in urban areas of Bangladesh, where it was just under one in 10 and Sri Lanka where it was just over one in 10.

In Cambodia, China and Indonesia it ranged from one in five to almost half of all men surveyed.

Part of the research has been published in The Lancet Global Health.

The authors said that the findings do not represent the whole Asia and Pacific region - but the survey respondents do provide a good demographic match for the countries studied.

Men were asked questions like:

Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?
Have you ever had sex with a woman or girl when she was too drunk or drugged to say whether she wanted it or not?
They recorded their answers on hand-held computers while the interviewer left the room.

'Sexual entitlement'

Nearly three quarters of those who committed rape said they did so for reasons of "sexual entitlement".

Report author Dr Emma Fulu said: "They believed they had the right to have sex with the woman regardless of consent.

"The second most common motivation reported was to rape as a form of entertainment, so for fun or because they were bored."

That was followed by using rape as a form of punishment or because the man was angry.

"Perhaps surprisingly, the least common motivation was alcohol." said Dr Fulu.

Men who had themselves suffered violence as children, especially childhood sexual abuse were more likely to have committed rape.

"These data justifiably create global outrage, accentuated by horrific recent high-profile cases, including the brutal gang rape of a student in New Delhi," said Dr Michele Decker from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore

"More than half of non-partner rape perpetrators first did so as adolescents, which affirms that young people are a crucial target population for prevention of rape.

"The challenge now is to turn evidence into action, to create a safer future for the next generation of women and girls."

Professor Rachel Jewkes, who led the research in Papua New Guinea, said the area they surveyed - Bougainville - had a particularly turbulent history, with an extraordinarily destructive civil conflict extending from the late 1980s to beyond 2005.

"It's an area where the conflict hasn't been absolutely resolved," she said.

"When we looked at mental health we saw particularly high prevalence of post traumatic stress disorder including uncontrollable aggression, the disruption of normal social relations and relations in the family."


(The article itself has a few percentages for various countries, including 62% in Papua New Guinea)

Okay, this makes me feel ill. The fact that rape is so prevalent in Asia is sickening. Still, hopefully knowing this means that they can actually bring that number way down in a few generations.

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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:52 pm

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Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?


I'm not sure that this qualifies as rape.

Other than that, though, these findings are quite disturbing.

How is that not rape?

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