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Postby Saveyou Island » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:45 pm

Dragonic Outland wrote:Is India challenging with South Africa for the title of "Rape Capital of the World"?

No, the article has it wrong. It's actually antarctica.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:45 pm

Dragonic Outland wrote:Is India challenging with South Africa for the title of "Rape Capital of the World"?

The current attitude is an improvement.

Before, these stories never made it into the news.

I'll let you sit with that.
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Postby Parhe » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:47 pm

Horrible yes, but I am not surprised much...

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If these are the kinds of questions they are asking, I'm skeptical of the results. After all, by this question, a man who's wife initially says no, but then changes her mind after he asks again, has just been raped.

I have a feeling this questionnaire was biased in the way it asked it's questions. Which isn't uncommon for rape surveys unfortunately.

And? When someone says no, you say "Alright." and go to sleep, or go home, or whatever works.

Though now I am confused. The question in no way mentions consent, only ift he partner wanted to. I mean one person can not want to do something but consent anyway for whatever reason like to make them happy or shut up. THough then this makes me think what does it mean to "want" something. People could take it to mean "want" something to mean just want that act o item and nothing else while another can take it as "want" it as a trade off for something else.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:47 pm

Dragonic Outland wrote:Is India challenging with South Africa for the title of "Rape Capital of the World"?

Nineteen percent of the world's children live in India,[173][174] which constitutes 42 percent of India’s total population.[175]

In 2007 the Ministry of Women and Child Development published the "Study on Child Abuse: India 2007."[173] It sampled 12447 children, 2324 young adults and 2449 stakeholders across 13 states. It looked at different forms of child abuse: physical abuse, sexual abuse and emotional abuse and girl child neglect in five evidence groups, namely, children in a family environment, children in school, children at work, children on the street and children in institutions.

The study's[173] main findings included: 53.22% of children reported having faced sexual abuse.
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Postby Parhe » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:49 pm

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Dragonic Outland wrote:Is India challenging with South Africa for the title of "Rape Capital of the World"?

Nineteen percent of the world's children live in India,[173][174] which constitutes 42 percent of India’s total population.[175]

In 2007 the Ministry of Women and Child Development published the "Study on Child Abuse: India 2007."[173] It sampled 12447 children, 2324 young adults and 2449 stakeholders across 13 states. It looked at different forms of child abuse: physical abuse, sexual abuse and emotional abuse and girl child neglect in five evidence groups, namely, children in a family environment, children in school, children at work, children on the street and children in institutions.

The study's[173] main findings included: 53.22% of children reported having faced sexual abuse.

Just wondering, what other groups can there be besides the five listed?

I suppose children in a religious environment or church?
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Postby Aurora Novus » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:49 pm

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Ah.

Well, unless you're trying to make some point here, I don't see how that's relevant.

Because it will show whether or not you can wrap your head around the same shit the rest of us can and if we should even bother with you.


So in order to justfiy listeing to my words on a given subject, you feel you need to ask me questions about a completely unreleated subject?

What impeccable logic. :roll:

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Postby Mizrah » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:51 pm

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Refer to the Line 2.


And then you say in line 3 that we need to respect other cultures.

Make up your mind.


. . . Line 2 states that if rape is not accepted in another culture, you should do something about it. Line 3 complements it. By doing something about it, you are respecting that people's culture of not accepting rape.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:52 pm

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Neu California wrote:"The second most common motivation reported was to rape as a form of entertainment, so for fun or because they were bored."

Now that's just sickening.

It's horrible.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:54 pm

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The BBC wrote:Almost a quarter of men surveyed in a UN report looking at violence against women in parts of Asia have admitted to committing at least one rape.




Nearly three quarters of those who committed rape said they did so for reasons of "sexual entitlement".

Report author Dr Emma Fulu said: "They believed they had the right to have sex with the woman regardless of consent.


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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:54 pm

What about women "raping" men. Btw. This can't all be considred rape
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:55 pm

This is horrible. Every day I lose more and more respect for humanity.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:55 pm

Dragonic Outland wrote:Is India challenging with South Africa for the title of "Rape Capital of the World"?

Somehow the article said that Sri Lanka and urban areas of Bangladesh have the lowest rates in Asia, which is shocking, if India is so bad.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:57 pm

Does this really surprise anyone?
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:58 pm

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Dragonic Outland wrote:Is India challenging with South Africa for the title of "Rape Capital of the World"?

Somehow the article said that Sri Lanka and urban areas of Bangladesh have the lowest rates in Asia, which is shocking, if India is so bad.



India has certainly had the most high profile incidents, yet that doesn't necessarily make it more prevalent on a per capita basis.
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Postby Saveyou Island » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:58 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Ainin wrote:Now that's just sickening.

It's horrible.

Some people just make me sad.
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:00 pm

Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un wrote:The Democratic peoples republic of Korea makes up 0% of the crimes!


Please tell me you are the real North Korean leader...

As for the article itself, its once again omitting how the attitudes have changed over the decades.

Its clearly attempting to demonise Asians, whence in fact a majority of them on average do not do such things.

Whilst as Nightkill above pointed out, In India alone, increasingly people are taking to the streets to demand an end to it.

In perspective, here in the West where much cases of rape do occur, never once have people taken to the streets en masse on the Indian level to protest it or demand stronger government laws. Or at least, not that I have heard of such manifestations openly, publicly, on the scale of the Indian ones.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:02 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Because it will show whether or not you can wrap your head around the same shit the rest of us can and if we should even bother with you.


So in order to justfiy listeing to my words on a given subject, you feel you need to ask me questions about a completely unreleated subject?

What impeccable logic. :roll:

You said, "That doesn't count as not giving consent." I ask, "Well what does count as not giving consent?" You say, "Completely unrelated subject!"

What impeccable logic.
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Postby Aurora Novus » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:05 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
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So in order to justfiy listeing to my words on a given subject, you feel you need to ask me questions about a completely unreleated subject?

What impeccable logic. :roll:

You said, "That doesn't count as not giving consent."


Which I went on to elaborate and explain as to how that was.


I ask, "Well what does count as not giving consent?" You say, "Completely unrelated subject!"

What impeccable logic.


Yes, it is completely unrelated. Good job. Here's a cookie, Spot. :clap:

It's unrelated, because my views on what constitutes consent and nonconsent in other situations is irrelevant to the discussion of whether or not what I described in this instance was rape.


Now I see no more reason to derail the discussion with your petty whining. Either address my actual point, or begone.
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Postby Seitonjin » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:06 pm

Disgusting and unsurprising.

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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:09 pm

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un wrote:The Democratic peoples republic of Korea makes up 0% of the crimes!


Please tell me you are the real North Korean leader...

As for the article itself, its once again omitting how the attitudes have changed over the decades.

Its clearly attempting to demonise Asians, whence in fact a majority of them on average do not do such things.

Whilst as Nightkill above pointed out, In India alone, increasingly people are taking to the streets to demand an end to it.

In perspective, here in the West where much cases of rape do occur, never once have people taken to the streets en masse on the Indian level to protest it or demand stronger government laws. Or at least, not that I have heard of such manifestations openly, publicly, on the scale of the Indian ones.


On the contrary, gender perception is moving backwards in the usa... look no further then the miley cyrus incident.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:10 pm

Aurora Novus wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You said, "That doesn't count as not giving consent."


Which I went on to elaborate and explain as to how that was.


I ask, "Well what does count as not giving consent?" You say, "Completely unrelated subject!"

What impeccable logic.


Yes, it is completely unrelated. Good job. Here's a cookie, Spot. :clap:

It's unrelated, because my views on what constitutes consent and nonconsent in other situations is irrelevant to the discussion of whether or not what I described in this instance was rape.


Now I see no more reason to derail the discussion with your petty whining. Either address my actual point, or begone.

Your personal definition of consent has a great deal of bearing upon how you're labeling what is and what is not consent in this debate.
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Postby Aurora Novus » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:14 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
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Which I went on to elaborate and explain as to how that was.




Yes, it is completely unrelated. Good job. Here's a cookie, Spot. :clap:

It's unrelated, because my views on what constitutes consent and nonconsent in other situations is irrelevant to the discussion of whether or not what I described in this instance was rape.


Now I see no more reason to derail the discussion with your petty whining. Either address my actual point, or begone.

Your personal definition of consent has a great deal of bearing upon how you're labeling what is and what is not consent in this debate.


So I take it you refuse to actually examine the issue at hand, and my comments on it?

Right then. This is going no where. No point in continuing it any further.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:17 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Your personal definition of consent has a great deal of bearing upon how you're labeling what is and what is not consent in this debate.


So I take it you refuse to actually examine the issue at hand, and my comments on it?

Right then. This is going no where. No point in continuing it any further.

I have examined it, and before I can argue it I need to know what definition you're using.
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Postby Aurora Novus » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:18 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
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So I take it you refuse to actually examine the issue at hand, and my comments on it?

Right then. This is going no where. No point in continuing it any further.

I have examined it, and before I can argue it I need to know what definition you're using.


Do you, or do you not, think lack of desire is equatable to lack of consent?

You don't need me to answer that question.

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