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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:57 pm

The really shitty thing is that there were probably men who were interviewed who had committed acts of rape, but didn't admit to it.

Truly sickening, the whole lot of it.

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Postby Ty-Ralyain » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:58 pm

Chishimotata wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:So, do people believe us now? Or is this not enough evidence?

Someone's going to post this on r/mensrights and everyone there would be like "lol, good, men controlling their bitches".


That's not at all what that place is about.
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Postby Chishimotata » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:59 pm

Ty-Ralyain wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:Someone's going to post this on r/mensrights and everyone there would be like "lol, good, men controlling their bitches".


That's not at all what that place is about.

The Men's Rights subreddit? So many misogynists, I would not be surprised.

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:05 pm

Chishimotata wrote:
Ty-Ralyain wrote:
That's not at all what that place is about.

The Men's Rights subreddit? So many misogynists, I would not be surprised.

Or "I wish I was alpha enough to b a rapist. QQ nice guys finish last I guess sigh"
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Postby Ty-Ralyain » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:06 pm

Chishimotata wrote:
Ty-Ralyain wrote:
That's not at all what that place is about.

The Men's Rights subreddit? So many misogynists, I would not be surprised.


There's of course the few but its just like there's blatant Misandrists in the Feminist subreddit. You've always got extremes in both camps. However, those said extremists are generally sidelined by the community as a whole. Most of it is just getting back at the legal or social statuses that wind up tossing men unfairly in prison or giving them the short end of the stick when it comes to divorces.
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Postby Steel Confessors » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:15 pm

Huh. According to that one about "Girlfriend/wife" wife question I've been raped several times. Who knew?
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Postby Chishimotata » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:17 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:The Men's Rights subreddit? So many misogynists, I would not be surprised.

Or "I wish I was alpha enough to b a rapist. QQ nice guys finish last I guess sigh"

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:18 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:I would go as far as saying it's culturally endemic to certain parts of the world.

Like I said, we have more work to do. Our job to educate people on consent and to encourage them to treat both sexes equally does not end at the borders of the developed world.

You aren't going to fix it if it's that popular in Papua New Guinea. A majority of men there rape.
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Postby Saveyou Island » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:19 pm

Oh god nooooo.
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Postby Chishimotata » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:21 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:Like I said, we have more work to do. Our job to educate people on consent and to encourage them to treat both sexes equally does not end at the borders of the developed world.

You aren't going to fix it if it's that popular in Papua New Guinea. A majority of men there rape.

Why not?

Saveyou Island wrote:
Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?

Well, as long as they didn't scream beg and plead for you to stop, I'm not really seeing this as rape...

:palm: No one is in the state of default sexual consent. Ever.

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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:22 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:Like I said, we have more work to do. Our job to educate people on consent and to encourage them to treat both sexes equally does not end at the borders of the developed world.

You aren't going to fix it if it's that popular in Papua New Guinea. A majority of men there rape.

To be fair, a majority of men in the US also thought that black people were inferior, and treated them as such.
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:22 pm

Saveyou Island wrote:
Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?

Well, as long as they didn't scream beg and plead for you to stop, I'm not really seeing this as rape...

Yeah... no. Just no.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:23 pm

Saveyou Island wrote:
Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?

Well, as long as they didn't scream beg and plead for you to stop, I'm not really seeing this as rape...

You make me sick.
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Postby Saveyou Island » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:25 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Saveyou Island wrote:Oh god noooo..

You make me sick.

Alright, I'm rereading the question. And now I regret that answer.
To be honest, I don't know How I read that, but I'm sorry for answering eith that.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:26 pm

Saveyou Island wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:You make me sick.

Alright, I'm rereading the question. And now I regret that answer.

Consent is SAYING YES. CONSENT IS NOT "NOT SAYING NO."

Repeat that five hundred times on the blackboard.
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Postby Saveyou Island » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:29 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Saveyou Island wrote:Alright, I'm rereading the question. And now I regret that answer.

Consent is SAYING YES. CONSENT IS NOT "NOT SAYING NO."

Repeat that five hundred times on the blackboard.

Done.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:29 pm

Chishimotata wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:You aren't going to fix it if it's that popular in Papua New Guinea. A majority of men there rape.

Why not?

Tyranny of the majority might be at work in the long term.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:30 pm

Saveyou Island wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Consent is SAYING YES. CONSENT IS NOT "NOT SAYING NO."

Repeat that five hundred times on the blackboard.

Done.

It's usually not that easy.
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Postby Saveyou Island » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:30 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Saveyou Island wrote:Done.

It's usually not that easy.

Unless you believe.
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Postby Chishimotata » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:33 pm

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Chishimotata wrote:Why not?

Tyranny of the majority might be at work in the long term.

But we had tyranny of the majority here in the US, where people saw black people as inferior, and now we're getting better at it (although we still have a lot of problems; see: Tea Party's obsession with Obama's birth certificate).

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Postby Saveyou Island » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:36 pm

Chishimotata wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Tyranny of the majority might be at work in the long term.

But we had tyranny of the majority here in the US, where people saw black people as inferior, and now we're getting better at it (although we still have a lot of problems; see: Tea Party's obsession with Obama's birth certificate).

I never understood the obsession. So they find it. Aaaand...?
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Postby Chishimotata » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:38 pm

Saveyou Island wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:But we had tyranny of the majority here in the US, where people saw black people as inferior, and now we're getting better at it (although we still have a lot of problems; see: Tea Party's obsession with Obama's birth certificate).

I never understood the obsession. So they find it. Aaaand...?

The reason they're obsessed is because they can't believe that a half-black, half-white dude actually was elected to the Presidency. :roll:

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:39 pm

Chishimotata wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Tyranny of the majority might be at work in the long term.

But we had tyranny of the majority here in the US, where people saw black people as inferior, and now we're getting better at it (although we still have a lot of problems; see: Tea Party's obsession with Obama's birth certificate).

I would say that economic growth will allow the people there to move beyond their ways as they will be able to produce leisure in less harmful ways. Economic development and societal stability might reduce the rate over time.
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Postby Aurora Novus » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:46 pm

"Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?"

If these are the kinds of questions they are asking, I'm skeptical of the results. After all, by this question, a man who's wife initially says no, but then changes her mind after he asks again, has just been raped.

I have a feeling this questionnaire was biased in the way it asked it's questions. Which isn't uncommon for rape surveys unfortunately.

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:48 pm

Aurora Novus wrote:"Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?"

If these are the kinds of questions they are asking, I'm skeptical of the results. After all, by this question, a man who's wife initially says no, but then changes her mind after he asks again, has just been raped.

I have a feeling this questionnaire was biased in the way it asked it's questions. Which isn't uncommon for rape surveys unfortunately.

And? When someone says no, you say "Alright." and go to sleep, or go home, or whatever works.
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