23% of men in parts of Asia admit to rape

[Regnum Dominae]

Relevant to rape. Irrelevant to abortion since there is no "another" individual involved. And no, this is not an abortion thread.

Not so long ago, some societies held similar views about women.

This is not an abortion thread. Stop trying to make it one.

[Keronians]

In which case, it is quite probable that a significant percentage of women, and a significant percentage of both men and women in the West, have also committed rape.

Again you misread the question, it said nothing about her actually agreeing. Second that is very possibly true.

Perhaps I misinterpreted it. The way I read the question, it seemed that men who made their partners relent to have sex with them by being douches were being classified as rapists.

[Christian Democrats]

Not so long ago, some societies held similar views about women.

This is not an abortion thread. Stop trying to make it one.

I'm talking about respect for human sexuality -- see my first post.

[Rio Cana]

So which nations or region in Asia are more prone to this.

That is why women in Asia especially when young should try to go to Wushu school training.

An example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vObJ7BGbbqM

[Chishimotata]

Damn it people. Now I'm sad and horrified at the fact that many men feel entitled to sex.

[Arumdaum]

So which nations or region in Asia are more prone to this.

That is why women in Asia especially when young should try to go to Wushu school training.

An example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vObJ7BGbbqM

They surveyed people from six countries, including Papua New Guinea, which isn't in Asia.

[NERVUN]

This is not an abortion thread. Stop trying to make it one.

I'm talking about respect for human sexuality -- see my first post.

Knock it off! This is not a bloody abortion thread.

5 minutes break to get the point across.

[NERVUN]

Thread reopened, this is not about abortion so let's not continue that line of thought.

On topic though, I am not surprised in the least.

[Neutraligon]

Again you misread the question, it said nothing about her actually agreeing. Second that is very possibly true.

Perhaps I misinterpreted it. The way I read the question, it seemed that men who made their partners relent to have sex with them by being douches were being classified as rapists.

You did, the question was asking men if they had sex with their partners because they felt entitled to it.

[Augarundus]

Um the question was have you had sex with a partner despite knowing she didn't want to. That's the textbook definition of rape. Also marital rape exists.

If she "agrees because she's your partner" (and not because you're threatening her with force), she apparently wants to... which makes this question a little paradoxical.

I don't deny that marital rape is rape. I think this question doesn't make sense because it implies you can agree to do something that you don't want to do (clearly, if you agree to it, you want it - it's your best choice compared to the next best alternative). A husband or wife can have sex with his/her husband or wife without enjoying it physically (which I assume is what "want" means), but that doesn't mean it's rape. Like, sexually dysfunctional people still have sex with their partners - that's not rape. I guess I just don't understand this question (how someone can agree to something despite not wanting it, assuming there's no threat of force; they don't "agree" to a violent ultimatum). I'm assuming that this doesn't imply that there's a threat of coercion involved here, which may not be the case, idk.

[Neutraligon]

Um the question was have you had sex with a partner despite knowing she didn't want to. That's the textbook definition of rape. Also marital rape exists.

If she "agrees because she's your partner" (and not because you're threatening her with force), she apparently wants to... which makes this question a little paradoxical.

I don't deny that marital rape is rape. I think this question doesn't make sense because it implies you can agree to do something that you don't want to do (clearly, if you agree to it, you want it - it's your best choice compared to the next best alternative). A husband or wife can have sex with his/her husband or wife without enjoying it physically (which I assume is what "want" means), but that doesn't mean it's rape. Like, sexually dysfunctional people still have sex with their partners - that's not rape. I guess I just don't understand this question (how someone can agree to something despite not wanting it, assuming there's no threat of force; they don't "agree" to a violent ultimatum). I'm assuming that this doesn't imply that there's a threat of coercion involved here, which may not be the case, idk.

Have you ever had sex with your partner when you knew she didn't want to but you thought she should agree because she's your wife/ partner?

Notice the point where it says the man thought she should agree, not that she actually agreed. And no, want has nothing to do with enjoying it physically. Someone can enjoy sex physically and not want to have sex at that moment. To then be forced to have sex, or be coerced to have sex is rape. "Sexually dysfunctional"( ) people can agree to have sex with their partners, and while they might not enjoy it, since the consented and maintained consent, it is not rape. Seriously, it really isn't that hard, if your partner doesn't explicitly give consent (no assumptions) free from and sort of coercion (including drugs) it is rape.

[New England and The Maritimes]

So, do people believe us now? Or is this not enough evidence?

[Chishimotata]

So, do people believe us now? Or is this not enough evidence?

Someone's going to post this on r/mensrights and everyone there would be like "lol, good, men controlling their bitches".

[The Serbian Empire]

Damn it people. Now I'm sad and horrified at the fact that many men feel entitled to sex.

If anything, it shows that it's far worse in other parts of the world than in the developed world.

[Chishimotata]

Damn it people. Now I'm sad and horrified at the fact that many men feel entitled to sex.

If anything, it shows that it's far worse in other parts of the world than in the developed world.

Which is why I'm disappointed.

This just means we have a lot more work to do though.

[Augarundus]

Have you ever had sex

Notice the point where it says the man thought she should agree, not that she actually agreed. And no, want has nothing to do with enjoying it physically. Someone can enjoy sex physically and not want to have sex at that moment. To then be forced to have sex, or be coerced to have sex is rape.

oh fuck

I thought this said "would agree", not "should". Implying the man thought she would have sex with him, but didn't "want" it (implying that, for whatever reason, she didn't enjoy the sex itself, but still would agree to it because she has some other end in mind... I would contest whether that situation means she doesn't "want" it - it means she wants some other end gained through it -, but that's different from what this question is asking). I misread the question, my bad.

[The Scientific States]

That's sickening.

[Neutraligon]

Have you ever had sex

that was the question being asked. A word for word quote.

[The Serbian Empire]

If anything, it shows that it's far worse in other parts of the world than in the developed world.

Which is why I'm disappointed.

This just means we have a lot more work to do though.

I would go as far as saying it's culturally endemic to certain parts of the world.

[Zachsland]

I love how it says "In Parts If Asia"

[Chishimotata]

Which is why I'm disappointed.

This just means we have a lot more work to do though.

I would go as far as saying it's culturally endemic to certain parts of the world.

Like I said, we have more work to do. Our job to educate people on consent and to encourage them to treat both sexes equally does not end at the borders of the developed world.

[Augarundus]

I love how it says "In Parts If Asia"

I thought it funnier that it's titled "Almost a quarter of men 'admit to rape in parts of Asia'"... implying almost 1/4 of ALL men WORLDWIDE admit to committing rape in Asia.

[Abasha]

This is disappointing and sickening, I can't believe that men still rape so many women in parts of our "modern" world like this. I wish I could personally castrate one of the men who did this to a woman, this really just makes me angry and gets me fired up. Rape in the US is bad enough, and it would seem like men in "parts of Asia" are even worse, I can't even imagine what it is like for those girls...

Whoever they are and wherever they are, they have my support, sorrow, and condolences.

[Ty-Ralyain]

Way to go, reaffirming that Asia is just a fucked up place overall.

[Arumdaum]

Way to go, reaffirming that Asia is just a fucked up place overall.

Read the article and learn what Asia is, goddammit.