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Is Sex Ed a good idea in Kindergarten?

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Yes
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No
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Possibly
67
14%
Sex Ed should be taught by the parents, not teachers.
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Total votes : 493

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Postby Terra Sector Union » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:17 pm

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How so?


I'd rather leave it to an American to explain it for your country, however I can go into detail as to how we have catholic, Anglican, and even these days Muslim schools, and frequently non-religious people end up at these schools and get said religion's beliefs and morality rammed down their throats.


It is true some schools are religious-based, but there are also schools that completely try to censor any sign of religious activity as well. Both liberal and conservative schools are a threat to U.S. Education. The indoctrination of political ideals in our nation's education has to stop.

Luckily, I went to an elementary school that didn't even have such nonsense.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:17 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
inappropriate touching of peers (especially trying to act out sex acts on them) is one of the major red flags for child abuse

a sufficiently large enough one

My grandmother is a preschool teacher.
She has caught, on multiple occasions, preschoolers giving each other oral.

The amount of meinha that diminished in Brazil (so that I didn't have despite wanting) went to Canada. :shock:

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:19 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:My grandmother is a preschool teacher.
She has caught, on multiple occasions, preschoolers giving each other oral.

The amount of meinha that diminished in Brazil (so that I didn't have despite wanting) went to Canada. :shock:

What
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:24 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:My grandmother is a preschool teacher.
She has caught, on multiple occasions, preschoolers giving each other oral.

The amount of meinha that diminished in Brazil (so that I didn't have despite wanting) went to Canada. :shock:

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:25 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:What

Slang for [sometimes egalitarian, at other times not] homoerotic playing between boys from the start of sexual interest (generally 7-8) to the age at which their male family members for fear of teh ghey pick prostitutes for them (~14-15) or, due to the more accessibility of free women, the first time happens in a less oppressive, heternormative-heterosexist-homophobic and patriarchal way (~13-21, but then by age 16 probably nobody but the ones who are sexual minorities for sure are doing it anymore).

I think meinha much healthier than first cousins or zoophilia (also used before the first heterosexual relationship with a stranger commonly, especially in rural regions where homosexuality was once believed to be a good reason to kill someone), but before age 10-11 it is quite creepy indeed.

It can happen between very young children, but it is rare...
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:27 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:What

Slang for [sometimes egalitarian, at other times not] homoerotic playing between boys from the start of sexual interest (generally 7-8) to the age at which their male family members for fear of teh ghey pick prostitutes for them (~14-15) or, due to the more accessibility of free women, the first time happens in a less oppressive, heternormative-heterosexist-homophobic and patriarchal way (~13-21, but then by age 16 probably nobody but the ones who are sexual minorities for sure are doing it anymore).

I think meinha much healthier than first cousins or zoophilia (also used before the first heterosexual relationship with a stranger commonly, especially in rural regions where homosexuality was once believed to be a good reason to kill someone), but before age 10-11 it is quite creepy indeed.

It can happen between very young children, but it is rare...

I.. I... We need to work on your English some more, sweetie.
And I don't live in Canada.
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Postby Freelanderness » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:28 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Slang for [sometimes egalitarian, at other times not] homoerotic playing between boys from the start of sexual interest (generally 7-8) to the age at which their male family members for fear of teh ghey pick prostitutes for them (~14-15) or, due to the more accessibility of free women, the first time happens in a less oppressive, heternormative-heterosexist-homophobic and patriarchal way (~13-21, but then by age 16 probably nobody but the ones who are sexual minorities for sure are doing it anymore).

I think meinha much healthier than first cousins or zoophilia (also used before the first heterosexual relationship with a stranger commonly, especially in rural regions where homosexuality was once believed to be a good reason to kill someone), but before age 10-11 it is quite creepy indeed.

It can happen between very young children, but it is rare...

I.. I... We need to work on your English some more, sweetie.
And I don't live in Canada.

I fully understood it, and I am once again horrified by humanity.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:29 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I.. I... We need to work on your English some more, sweetie.
And I don't live in Canada.

My English is indeed shitty, but this poor writing is more for I am pretty sleepy.

I thought you did...
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:30 pm

Freelanderness wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I.. I... We need to work on your English some more, sweetie.
And I don't live in Canada.

I fully understood it, and I am once again horrified by humanity.


I got lost at the 'meinha' thing. And I understand Portuguese. :/
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:30 pm

Freelanderness wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I.. I... We need to work on your English some more, sweetie.
And I don't live in Canada.

I fully understood it, and I am once again horrified by humanity.

I'm just confused by all the detail. Is meinha the homoerotic play? Or is it the parents buying prostitutes? Or the... thing with the heteronormative-heterosexist-homophobic thing????
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:31 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I.. I... We need to work on your English some more, sweetie.
And I don't live in Canada.

My English is indeed shitty, but this poor writing is more for I am pretty sleepy.

I thought you did...

I live in Tennessee... I'm American.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:32 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:I fully understood it, and I am once again horrified by humanity.

I'm just confused by all the detail. Is meinha the homoerotic play? Or is it the parents buying prostitutes? Or the... thing with the heteronormative-heterosexist-homophobic thing????

I assumed it was a strange, elaborate combination of all three.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:33 pm

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Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I'm just confused by all the detail. Is meinha the homoerotic play? Or is it the parents buying prostitutes? Or the... thing with the heteronormative-heterosexist-homophobic thing????

I assumed it was a strange, elaborate combination of all three.

Then that's one small word for three big things.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:33 pm

Now that I've seen that, I'm leaving.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:33 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:I assumed it was a strange, elaborate combination of all three.

Then that's one small word for three big things.

Um yea.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:33 pm

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Source that they offer a more neutral view.

Because my public school certainly doesn't do that.

My grade school definitely pushed liberalism. But it was more authoritarian liberalism.

Oxymoron.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:34 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:I fully understood it, and I am once again horrified by humanity.

I'm just confused by all the detail. Is meinha the homoerotic play? Or is it the parents buying prostitutes? Or the... thing with the heteronormative-heterosexist-homophobic thing????

The homoerotic play.

The fathers/uncles/grandfathers/cousins/brothers/etc. buying prostitutes is homophobia because they are afraid of the meinha and that, God forbid the boy already engaged in that, if he "doesn't prove of the right thing" he may be "deviant" for the rest of his life.

But once women are sexually liberated, they see no reason to do it anymore because 1. it's truly barbaric 2. people in cities with more education and less chauvinistic attitudes to women get more shocked at this 3. people tend to be more aware that homosexuality isn't a "disease", a "vice" or something like that.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:34 pm

The Union of the West wrote:Now that I've seen that, I'm leaving.

Eh, it happens for about an hour like once a month, some weirdo who is upset they got deated.
Wouldn't be shocked if it were someone like Verb...
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:36 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I.. I... We need to work on your English some more, sweetie.
And I don't live in Canada.

My English is indeed shitty, but this poor writing is more for I am pretty sleepy.

I thought you did...

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:36 pm

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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:My English is indeed shitty, but this poor writing is more for I am pretty sleepy.

I thought you did...

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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:36 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:My grade school definitely pushed liberalism. But it was more authoritarian liberalism.

Oxymoron.

That's what I always thought
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Postby Liriena » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:41 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Liriena wrote:Oxymoron.

That's what I always thought

An authoritarian ideology can never be "liberal".

That being said, on the topic of this thread, my opinion is that this is not a bad idea in principle, but I fail to see why it would be necessary.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:45 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:That's what I always thought

An authoritarian ideology can never be "liberal".

That being said, on the topic of this thread, my opinion is that this is not a bad idea in principle, but I fail to see why it would be necessary.

So that children don't blame themselves for being sexually abused and are capable of reporting their abusers? And so that we can start to stop having a society that thinks words like "Penis" and "vulva" are "dirty words"?
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:48 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:That's what I always thought

An authoritarian ideology can never be "liberal".

That being said, on the topic of this thread, my opinion is that this is not a bad idea in principle, but I fail to see why it would be necessary.

It was more of a "be tolerant or die" liberalism.
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Postby Ramenasia » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:50 pm

Preserving childhood innocence is not the reason we have schools. Sex education should begin as early as possible so that children can be informed about an important topic and be more comfortable with who they are.
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