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Is Sex Ed a good idea in Kindergarten?

Poll ended at Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:10 pm

Yes
101
20%
No
266
54%
Possibly
67
14%
Sex Ed should be taught by the parents, not teachers.
59
12%
 
Total votes : 493

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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:00 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Why do we need more homeschooling parents and are essentially pretty biased on certain subjects.


And schools aren't?


They're less bias.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:00 pm

There are basically three sides in this debate: Conservatives who did not read the article, Conservatives who read the article, and Progressives.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:01 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
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No, we don't.

May I ask why?

Obviously it is horrible before high school.

In high school it should be used only in emergencies out of necessity (my case) but I'm against using it as YOLO let's not go to school anymore, the state should still try to provide good quality education. That parents can never give because they didn't study to do so (both of mine did but they're exceptional).
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:01 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
And schools aren't?


They're less bias.

Yea no thats not true
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:01 pm

The Union of the West wrote:There are basically three sides in this debate: Conservatives who did not read the article, Conservatives who read the article, and Progressives.


Are you the conservative that did read the article?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:01 pm

Terra Sector Union wrote:I don't know about this. It really depends.

If they're going to flat out explain sex in detail to 5 year olds, then I am against this.

Read the article.
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:02 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
And schools aren't?


They're less bias.


Source?
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:02 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
They're less bias.

Yea no thats not true


Parents can essentially interject their religion and personal morals into subjects.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:02 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:There are basically three sides in this debate: Conservatives who did not read the article, Conservatives who read the article, and Progressives.


Are you the conservative that did read the article?

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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:03 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Yea no thats not true


Parents can essentially interject their religion and personal morals into subjects.

And schools and teachers can't interject liberal morality?
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:03 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Yea no thats not true


Parents can essentially interject their religion and personal morals into subjects.


And teachers can't somehow insert their own personal beliefs and bias?
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:04 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Parents can essentially interject their religion and personal morals into subjects.

And schools and teachers can't interject liberal morality?


Please don't say completely stupid shit like "liberal morality"
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:04 pm

I think we should all pause the debate and take a moment to read the article.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:04 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Parents can essentially interject their religion and personal morals into subjects.

And schools and teachers can't interject liberal morality?

What the fuck is "liberal morality"?
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:04 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Parents can essentially interject their religion and personal morals into subjects.

And schools and teachers can't interject liberal morality?


They offer a more neutral point if view. Even my teachers were very neutral on pretty much on every subject.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Trelso » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:04 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Yea no thats not true


Parents can essentially interject their religion and personal morals into subjects.


And schools do interject their religion and personal morals into subjects even here in Britain where we aren't so over the top about religion.

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:05 pm

The Union of the West wrote:I think we should all pause the debate and take a moment to read the article.

as if my virgin eyes hadn't been filthied up enough tonight.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:05 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:And schools and teachers can't interject their own views?


Please don't say completely stupid shit like "liberal morality"

Ok I'll fix that.
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:05 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:And schools and teachers can't interject liberal morality?


They offer a more neutral point if view. Even my teachers were very neutral on pretty much on every subject.


Source that they offer a more neutral view.

Because my public school certainly doesn't do that.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:05 pm

Trelso wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Parents can essentially interject their religion and personal morals into subjects.


And schools do interject their religion and personal morals into subjects even here in Britain where we aren't so over the top about religion.


How so?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:05 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Parents can essentially interject their religion and personal morals into subjects.

And schools and teachers can't interject liberal morality?

If we see the mainstream of the United States, a person from an outsider viewpoint may see that the common people interpret both scientific and historical truth as being labeled liberal bias.

It's quite interesting.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:05 pm

Vazdania wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:I think we should all pause the debate and take a moment to read the article.

as if my virgin eyes hadn't been filthied up enough tonight.

Did you read it?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:06 pm

Vazdania wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Hippo is pretty plutocrat, and Vaz favors aristocracy, not plutocracy.

Excuse me I defiantly agree with Plutocracy. Clearly the wealthy should take control of the poor's financial situation as they can't seem to do it themselves [source:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=259646]

Probably not a good idea, because: http://www.fastcodesign.com/1673129/mon ... ys-science
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Postby Terra Sector Union » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:06 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:And schools and teachers can't interject liberal morality?

What the fuck is "liberal morality"?

Morals that are associated with liberals.
This is a huge problem when people see everything either conservative or liberal.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:06 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Parents can essentially interject their religion and personal morals into subjects.


And teachers can't somehow insert their own personal beliefs and bias?

If they do they can often have to go before a review.
Lol I forced one of my teachers to go before a review after he said, and I quote, "Liberal economics do nothing but encourage slobs and drug addicts and take away from people who actually matter."
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