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Is Sex Ed a good idea in Kindergarten?

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Yes
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No
266
54%
Possibly
67
14%
Sex Ed should be taught by the parents, not teachers.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:54 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:I agree with you

Because allowing yourself to do what boys were always allowed to do 3 decades back but received little refraining and social pressure from rather not to is totally not respecting yourself. *nods*

Boys were allowed to wear shorts so short that their butt could be seen 30 years ago? Interesting.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:54 pm

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Vazdania wrote:I'd say it looks gross and that they should have more self respect.....But then again, that is just me talking


You're also asexual, so it really doesn't matter to you, right?

I still see people, they ought to show some self respect by dressing modestly.
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Postby Torisakia » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:56 pm

Another reason I'll be homeschooling my children. Just let me pencil that down here....
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:56 pm

Vazdania wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Hippo is pretty plutocrat, and Vaz favors aristocracy, not plutocracy.

Excuse me I defiantly agree with Plutocracy. Clearly the wealthy should take control of the poor's financial situation as they can't seem to do it themselves [source: Another thread on here somewhere give me a few minutes to find it]


I really don't want this to turn into a plutocracy thread.


So, does anyone reject to teaching kids about their bodies?
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:56 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
You're also asexual, so it really doesn't matter to you, right?

I still see people, they ought to show some self respect by dressing modestly.

You can walk around naked and still have self-respect.
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Postby Shaggai » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:56 pm

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Shaggai wrote:Hippo is to conservatism as Vaz is to plutocracy. They may both be anti-liberal, but Vaz is definitely not Hippo.

Also Vaz is less pro-Nazi.

Hippo is pretty plutocrat, and Vaz favors aristocracy, not plutocracy.

Hippo's plutocracy is just a part of his ideology. Vaz's, well, aristocracy is the main bit of the ideology.

Also, Vaz being a supporter of aristocracy makes a lot of things make sense now.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:56 pm

Torisakia wrote:Another reason I'll be homeschooling my children. Just let me pencil that down here....

We need more homeschooling parents.
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Postby Freelanderness » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:56 pm

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Freelanderness wrote:That's the point. I think we need more healthy messages about sexuality for our children, instead of less. *shudder* the media taught me about sex and look how it turned out.


Oh, I thought you were proposing having the parents teach the kids about sex and their body.

Oh, I am. But I recognise that isn't going to happen... And as such, the state must fill the role until we cross this hurdle as a society.

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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:57 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
You're also asexual, so it really doesn't matter to you, right?

I still see people, they ought to show some self respect by dressing modestly.


What is "modest" is also simply dictated by social norms.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:57 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Another reason I'll be homeschooling my children. Just let me pencil that down here....

We need more homeschooling parents.


No, we don't.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:57 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I still see people, they ought to show some self respect by dressing modestly.

You can walk around naked and still have self-respect.

I suppose. But it's likely that the person could be using their body to compensate for other insecurities.
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:57 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Another reason I'll be homeschooling my children. Just let me pencil that down here....

We need more homeschooling parents.


Why?
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:58 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:We need more homeschooling parents.


No, we don't.

May I ask why?
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:58 pm

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Yes Im Biop wrote:Don 't see what it could hurt. Might help get rid of the Sex is bad bullshit culture happening.

It is out of wedlock, but that's another topic.

My parents never married.

Beautiful how the people who feel offended by the possibility of them somehow ever not having come into existence by abortion find it OK that they'd want a always-and-ever-wanted happy children to not exist because "ZOMG the social institutions"
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Postby Nailed to the Perch » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:58 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Because allowing yourself to do what boys were always allowed to do 3 decades back but received little refraining and social pressure from rather not to is totally not respecting yourself. *nods*

Boys were allowed to wear shorts so short that their butt could be seen 30 years ago? Interesting.


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ETA: This was literally the first result I got for "boys 80s shorts." Methinks you don't really remember 30 years ago all that well, because those were incredibly common at the time.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:58 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:We need more homeschooling parents.


Why?

Because our children shouldn't be subjected to what the government views as "education."
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:59 pm

Torisakia wrote:Another reason I'll be homeschooling my children. Just let me pencil that down here....

You oppose teaching your kids to tell a parent or teacher if someone touches or rapes them so much that you want to homeschool them?
THen I must wonder what other activities you plan for your kids.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:59 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Because allowing yourself to do what boys were always allowed to do 3 decades back but received little refraining and social pressure from rather not to is totally not respecting yourself. *nods*

Boys were allowed to wear shorts so short that their butt could be seen 30 years ago? Interesting.

I'm from Rio de Janeiro and we walk by the coastal neighborhoods with clothes shorter than our usual underwear so
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:59 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
No, we don't.

May I ask why?


Why do we need more homeschooling parents and are essentially pretty biased on certain subjects.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:59 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Why?

Because our children shouldn't be subjected to what the government views as "education."


So parents are totally qualified to teach their children calculus, physics, literature, etc?
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The Union of the West wrote:Boys were allowed to wear shorts so short that their butt could be seen 30 years ago? Interesting.


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See: Every high school basketball team in the 70's and 80's.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:00 pm

Shaggai wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Hippo is pretty plutocrat, and Vaz favors aristocracy, not plutocracy.

Hippo's plutocracy is just a part of his ideology. Vaz's, well, aristocracy is the main bit of the ideology.

Also, Vaz being a supporter of aristocracy makes a lot of things make sense now.

Not really relevant to the thread..... :unsure:
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Postby Terra Sector Union » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:00 pm

I don't know about this. It really depends.

If they're going to flat out explain sex in detail to 5 year olds, then I am against this.
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:00 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:May I ask why?


Why do we need more homeschooling parents and are essentially pretty biased on certain subjects.


And schools aren't?
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Postby The Unites State-Of-Minds » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:00 pm

Depends entirely upon how it is taught. Children have been known to "experiment" from a young age, and who hasn't heard of the "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" exchange that many kids experience? Sex is, despite what cultural and religious indoctrination may have us believe, completely natural. Most will experience such things anyway, so in terms of education, the sooner the better. Unfortunately, most parents can not be trusted to properly teach their children but, then again, neither can the modern Sex Ed I have seen time and time again. Preaching abstinence to a room of pregnant teenagers proves my point on such matters. Regardless of these things, if we are going to present the warped sexuality found on the crap we broadcast on television, then we should at least try to teach them properly in the classroom.

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