Sex education in Kindergarten?

[Shaggai]

I'm highly insulted, that you'd compare me to Hippo.

You are like Hippo, you just have better manners and you're kid.

Less evul libruhls though.

[Pandeeria]

It's only scandalous because social norms dictate it to be so
In the 1950s, it was scandalous to wear a slightly skimpy skirt.

Look at high school girls nowadays, for example.

And if social norms absolutely must change (and its inevitable that they will) then it should be natural, not imposed by the state.

That actually depends on a few factors.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Vagina isn't the proper name. The proper name is vulva.

We don't see [most of] the vagina for the same reason we don't see [most of] the urethra, but still people insist on calling the whole of pre-womb female genitals by said term.

That being said, I agree with you.

Is vulva not just a part of the vagina? I'm talking about all of it, not just what you can easily see.

No. The vulva is the external genitalia; the vagina is internal. All one can see of a vagina under normal circumstances is its opening.

[Freelanderness]

I'm sorry to potentially upset the balance for some people here, but children are going to learn about it anyway. But instead of from a teacher, required to teach from curriculum, from their classmates, and from the media, who are motivated by god knows what. I sure as hell do not want any child of mine, (not that I want a child) to have to face their sexuality unprepared the same way I did, and ultimately get taken advantage of by predators because the media told them that silence was consent.

Well the state is teaching kids about it earlier and earlier, the state is pretty much saying "silence is bad" and to tell if you were molested.

That's the point. I think we need more healthy messages about sexuality for our children, instead of less. *shudder* the media taught me about sex and look how it turned out.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

That's not the reverse that's exactly what he said.

I confused "hole" with "whole" because English phonology/orthography is hell confusing.

[The Parkus Empire]

You are like Hippo, you just have better manners and you're kid.

Less evul libruhls though.

Not really. Vaz still sees liberalism as essentially evil, he just doesn't see liberals as less than human, unlike the poor.

[Des-Bal]

And if social norms absolutely must change (and its inevitable that they will) then it should be natural, not imposed by the state.

These changes are happening with the state. Are you saying the state must always lag behind common progress?

[Pandeeria]

Well the state is teaching kids about it earlier and earlier, the state is pretty much saying "silence is bad" and to tell if you were molested.

That's the point. I think we need more healthy messages about sexuality for our children, instead of less. *shudder* the media taught me about sex and look how it turned out.

Oh, I thought you were proposing having the parents teach the kids about sex and their body.

[Blasveck]

It's only scandalous because social norms dictate it to be so
In the 1950s, it was scandalous to wear a slightly skimpy skirt.

Look at high school girls nowadays, for example.

And if social norms absolutely must change (and its inevitable that they will) then it should be natural, not imposed by the state.

That isn't always the case....

[South East Europe]

This shouldn't even be a debate.

[The Union of the West]

And if social norms absolutely must change (and its inevitable that they will) then it should be natural, not imposed by the state.

That actually depends on a few factors.

Such as?

[Pandeeria]

This shouldn't even be a debate.

Are in you in-favor of the state teaching kids about their bodies?

[The Union of the West]

This shouldn't even be a debate.

But what's your opinion on it?

[Blasveck]

This shouldn't even be a debate.

Because.......

[Vazdania]

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Indeed it was.




It is scandalous when it comes out of the mouth of a six year old.

It's only scandalous because social norms dictate it to be so
In the 1950s, it was scandalous to wear a slightly skimpy skirt.

Look at high school girls nowadays, for example.

I'd say it looks gross and that they should have more self respect.....But then again, that is just me talking

[Pandeeria]

That actually depends on a few factors.

Such as?

What the end result will be exactly, pros and cons of said result, steps to achieve said result, how everyone else will feel if said result came into place, etc.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

This shouldn't even be a debate.

Of course not. If people can deal with and be indoctrinated to follow complex, ritualized, dangerous and controversial things such as the religions most common to Humanity, then your basic biological functions, the sexes, and even the copula, the sex for pleasure, the sexual orientations and the genders are pretty simple things.

[Shaggai]

Less evul libruhls though.

Not really. Vaz still sees liberalism as essentially evil, he just doesn't see liberals as less than human, unlike the poor.

Hippo is to conservatism as Vaz is to plutocracy. They may both be anti-liberal, but Vaz is definitely not Hippo.

Also Vaz is less pro-Nazi.

[The Union of the West]

It's only scandalous because social norms dictate it to be so
In the 1950s, it was scandalous to wear a slightly skimpy skirt.

Look at high school girls nowadays, for example.

I'd say it looks gross and that they should have more self respect.....But then again, that is just me talking

I agree with you

[Blasveck]

It's only scandalous because social norms dictate it to be so
In the 1950s, it was scandalous to wear a slightly skimpy skirt.

Look at high school girls nowadays, for example.

I'd say it looks gross and that they should have more self respect.....But then again, that is just me talking

You're also asexual, so it really doesn't matter to you, right?

[The Parkus Empire]

Not really. Vaz still sees liberalism as essentially evil, he just doesn't see liberals as less than human, unlike the poor.

Hippo is to conservatism as Vaz is to plutocracy. They may both be anti-liberal, but Vaz is definitely not Hippo.

Also Vaz is less pro-Nazi.

Hippo is pretty plutocrat, and Vaz favors aristocracy, not plutocracy.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

I'd say it looks gross and that they should have more self respect.....But then again, that is just me talking

I agree with you

Because allowing yourself to do what boys were always allowed to do 3 decades back but received little refraining and social pressure from rather not to is totally not respecting yourself. *nods*

[Vazdania]

I'm highly insulted, that you'd compare me to Hippo.

You are like Hippo, you just have better manners and you're kid.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

It's only scandalous because social norms dictate it to be so
In the 1950s, it was scandalous to wear a slightly skimpy skirt.

Look at high school girls nowadays, for example.

I'd say it looks gross and that they should have more self respect.....But then again, that is just me talking

Real self-respect is not hating yourself and your body because of the pressures put on you by others, and opting to wear whatever makes you feel comfortable.
You think I, as an obese woman, wear short shorts because you like it? Fuck no, I wear them because I like it and I respect myself.

[Vazdania]

Hippo is to conservatism as Vaz is to plutocracy. They may both be anti-liberal, but Vaz is definitely not Hippo.

Also Vaz is less pro-Nazi.

Hippo is pretty plutocrat, and Vaz favors aristocracy, not plutocracy.

Excuse me I defiantly agree with Plutocracy. Clearly the wealthy should take control of the poor's financial situation as they can't seem to do it themselves [source:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=259646]