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Is Sex Ed a good idea in Kindergarten?

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Yes
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No
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Possibly
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Sex Ed should be taught by the parents, not teachers.
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Postby Srboslavija » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:23 pm

Sure why not.

I'm always reminded of that kid in "Kindergarten Cop" explaining the basics to Schwarzenegger;

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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:24 pm

Ertae wrote:Ours was in fourth grade, with some political bs thrown in in ninth grade. Kindergarten is a little extreme, but I don't mind it being in primary school.


Combining politics with sex Ed? :blink:
What exactly did they say/teach that politics and sex were intertwined?
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:26 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Ertae wrote:Ours was in fourth grade, with some political bs thrown in in ninth grade. Kindergarten is a little extreme, but I don't mind it being in primary school.


Combining politics with sex Ed? :blink:
What exactly did they say/teach that politics and sex were intertwined?

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:26 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Ertae wrote:Ours was in fourth grade, with some political bs thrown in in ninth grade. Kindergarten is a little extreme, but I don't mind it being in primary school.


Combining politics with sex Ed? :blink:
What exactly did they say/teach that politics and sex were intertwined?

"Sex leads to abortion, abortion is murder."
"True Americans wait til marriage."
"People with STDs shouldn't vote, they're clearly irresponsible."
Those are a couple of things I was "taught" in high school.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:27 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Skako wrote:The innocence of a child is a beautiful thing. Why don't we keep on getting rid of it by telling them the murder rate in the U.S., the number of fatal car accidents per year, that Santa Claus isn't real, that the tooth fairy isn't real, that superheroes aren't real, etc.? (Sarcasm)

Teaching a child the name of their own genitals and where they shouldn't be touched is comparable to murder how?
And a lot of children don't believe in fairies, superheroes, etc. and they're fine.

I don't know about the teaching the name part (unless they explain that it's not normal to say it all the time.) I think it'd be a better idea to explain that certain areas of a person's body are not appropriate to be touched. That way they know if they're being abused, and how to report it. (Although if a child got mad at a parent they could say "hey they're abusing me," and could give evidence by explaining what happened to them based on what they learned in the sex ed class, when it didn't even happen, but that would likely be rare if it happens at all)
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Postby Esternial » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:27 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Combining politics with sex Ed? :blink:
What exactly did they say/teach that politics and sex were intertwined?

"Sex leads to abortion, abortion is murder."
"True Americans wait til marriage."
"People with STDs shouldn't vote, they're clearly irresponsible."
Those are a couple of things I was "taught" in high school.

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:27 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Combining politics with sex Ed? :blink:
What exactly did they say/teach that politics and sex were intertwined?

"Sex leads to abortion, abortion is murder."
"True Americans wait til marriage."
"People with STDs shouldn't vote, they're clearly irresponsible."
Those are a couple of things I was "taught" in high school.

yes. all of those are true.
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Postby Kushtor » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:28 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Combining politics with sex Ed? :blink:
What exactly did they say/teach that politics and sex were intertwined?

"Sex leads to abortion, abortion is murder."
"True Americans wait til marriage."
"People with STDs shouldn't vote, they're clearly irresponsible."
Those are a couple of things I was "taught" in high school.

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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:28 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Combining politics with sex Ed? :blink:
What exactly did they say/teach that politics and sex were intertwined?

"Sex leads to abortion, abortion is murder."
"True Americans wait til marriage."
"People with STDs shouldn't vote, they're clearly irresponsible."
Those are a couple of things I was "taught" in high school.


And where the hell did you go to school?
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:28 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Teaching a child the name of their own genitals and where they shouldn't be touched is comparable to murder how?
And a lot of children don't believe in fairies, superheroes, etc. and they're fine.

I don't know about the teaching the name part (unless they explain that it's not normal to say it all the time.) I think it'd be a better idea to explain that certain areas of a person's body are not appropriate to be touched. That way they know if they're being abused, and how to report it. (Although if a child got mad at a parent they could say "hey they're abusing me," and could give evidence by explaining what happened to them based on what they learned in the sex ed class, when it didn't even happen, but that would likely be rare if it happens at all)

What's so wrong with saying the name of your genitals? What is the difference between a child saying, "Teach, I hurt my elbow" and "Teacher, I hurt my penis"?
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:28 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:"Sex leads to abortion, abortion is murder."
"True Americans wait til marriage."
"People with STDs shouldn't vote, they're clearly irresponsible."
Those are a couple of things I was "taught" in high school.

yes. all of those are true.

Sarcasm right?
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:29 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Vazdania wrote:yes. all of those are true.

Sarcasm right?

:eyebrow: I hope.
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Postby Trelso » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:29 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Combining politics with sex Ed? :blink:
What exactly did they say/teach that politics and sex were intertwined?

"Sex leads to abortion, abortion is murder."
"True Americans wait til marriage."
"People with STDs shouldn't vote, they're clearly irresponsible."
Those are a couple of things I was "taught" in high school.


Holy fucking shit...

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:30 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:"Sex leads to abortion, abortion is murder."
"True Americans wait til marriage."
"People with STDs shouldn't vote, they're clearly irresponsible."
Those are a couple of things I was "taught" in high school.

yes. all of those are true.

Stop talking to me.

Blasveck wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:"Sex leads to abortion, abortion is murder."
"True Americans wait til marriage."
"People with STDs shouldn't vote, they're clearly irresponsible."
Those are a couple of things I was "taught" in high school.


And where the hell did you go to school?

AS another example, for my senior year, *my* senior prank was getting legal authority to threaten to sue my school if they didn't stop mandatory prayers at graduation and football games.
The Andromeda Islands wrote:This! Is! A! Bad! Idea!
Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.



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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:30 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:I don't know about the teaching the name part (unless they explain that it's not normal to say it all the time.) I think it'd be a better idea to explain that certain areas of a person's body are not appropriate to be touched. That way they know if they're being abused, and how to report it. (Although if a child got mad at a parent they could say "hey they're abusing me," and could give evidence by explaining what happened to them based on what they learned in the sex ed class, when it didn't even happen, but that would likely be rare if it happens at all)

What's so wrong with saying the name of your genitals? What is the difference between a child saying, "Teach, I hurt my elbow" and "Teacher, I hurt my penis"?

Seriously? Did you read what you just wrote? When I was in grade school I could get detention for being heard saying "penis." And if a kid learns something innapropriate they like to repeat it. Human nature.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:30 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Combining politics with sex Ed? :blink:
What exactly did they say/teach that politics and sex were intertwined?

"Sex leads to abortion, abortion is murder."
"True Americans wait til marriage."
"People with STDs shouldn't vote, they're clearly irresponsible."
Those are a couple of things I was "taught" in high school.


Holy living ape turd.
The US education system (assuming you're in the US) is in need if some really major reform.
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:30 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:What's so wrong with saying the name of your genitals? What is the difference between a child saying, "Teach, I hurt my elbow" and "Teacher, I hurt my penis"?


Well it's generally presumed if you've hurt your penis things are significantly more wrong than if you'd just hurt your elbow.
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:31 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Teaching a child the name of their own genitals and where they shouldn't be touched is comparable to murder how?
And a lot of children don't believe in fairies, superheroes, etc. and they're fine.

1. I don't know about the teaching the name part (unless they explain that it's not normal to say it all the time.) 2. I think it'd be a better idea to explain that certain areas of a person's body are not appropriate to be touched. That way they know if they're being abused, and how to report it. (Although if a child got mad at a parent they could say "hey they're abusing me," and could give evidence by explaining what happened to them based on what they learned in the sex ed class, when it didn't even happen, but that would likely be rare if it happens at all)

1. There's nothing wrong with the proper names. I'd rather a child say vagina than cunt, pussy, or wee wee.
2. That's what they'd be teaching.
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:31 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Vazdania wrote:yes. all of those are true.

Stop talking to me.

Blasveck wrote:
And where the hell did you go to school?

AS another example, for my senior year, *my* senior prank was getting legal authority to threaten to sue my school if they didn't stop mandatory prayers at graduation and football games.

Damn...

Isn't public prayer against the Bible?

The irony...
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:31 pm

Vazdania wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Sarcasm right?

:eyebrow: I hope.

I was talking to you.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:31 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:What's so wrong with saying the name of your genitals? What is the difference between a child saying, "Teach, I hurt my elbow" and "Teacher, I hurt my penis"?

Seriously? Did you read what you just wrote? When I was in grade school I could get detention for being heard saying "penis." And if a kid learns something innapropriate they like to repeat it. Human nature.

Then stop teaching your kids that the word "penis" is inappropriate.
Sexually repressed society is the problem, not the word penis.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:32 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Stop talking to me.


AS another example, for my senior year, *my* senior prank was getting legal authority to threaten to sue my school if they didn't stop mandatory prayers at graduation and football games.

Damn...

Isn't public prayer against the Bible?

The irony...

Actually yea it is.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:32 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Vazdania wrote: :eyebrow: I hope.

I was talking to you.


If it's not sarcasm, than I have lost all faith in Vaz.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:32 pm

Blasveck wrote:Damn...

Isn't public prayer against the Bible?

The irony...


If christians had to abide by the bible there would be no christians.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:33 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Vazdania wrote: :eyebrow: I hope.

I was talking to you.

yes, I know.
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