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Is Sex Ed a good idea in Kindergarten?

Poll ended at Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:10 pm

Yes
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No
266
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Possibly
67
14%
Sex Ed should be taught by the parents, not teachers.
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Total votes : 493

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Postby Tsuntion » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:08 am

Free Sahara wrote:
Ifreann wrote:They need to know this so they can report someone who's sexually abusing them.

I'd not want to know about those gross things in the age of five. I would be scared to friggin' death!

"Anytime, anywhere you, yeah YOU little boy or girl, could be attacked by a big man or lady. They usually give you candy or try to be nice. After that they will rip your buttocks apart-- or any other part of your body. They do it, because they umm, like to do that kind of stuff." Eww.

Or how about if children were told about how exhibitionists use their pee pee? It was too inappropriate to be put here.


"Some parts of your body are private parts. Other people shouldn't be touching the area covered by your swimsuit, whether you know the person or not. If someone touches you anywhere in that area, tell your parents, or come tell me or another school teacher. We'll help you."
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Postby Esternial » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:08 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Esternial wrote:Kindergarten seems a bit early, though.

Why?

At that age, children are still playing and having fun. For the same reason we don't actively teach them math, I agree we should actively teach them anything aside from basic exercises to prepare their wee little minds for actual classes.

I feel it would be better taught after Kindergarten.

At least in my case, kindergarten wasn't really intended for "studying" but rather for playing. None of the stuff we were taught were really intensely focused on anything, as far as I recall. Sex Ed is pretty damn important, so it shouldn't be taught when children are still in that playful stage of their education.

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Postby Lenninists » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:08 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Lenninists wrote:After the initial shock of seeing the article subsided i realized that its for the best to start educating children about sex at a younger age as they are becoming sexualized at a younger age as well...

I'm not convinced you actually read the article.



I skimmed it hence why i said *see* instead of *read* im not convinced you read my post.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:10 am

Tsuntion wrote:
Free Sahara wrote:I'd not want to know about those gross things in the age of five. I would be scared to friggin' death!

"Anytime, anywhere you, yeah YOU little boy or girl, could be attacked by a big man or lady. They usually give you candy or try to be nice. After that they will rip your buttocks apart-- or any other part of your body. They do it, because they umm, like to do that kind of stuff." Eww.

Or how about if children were told about how exhibitionists use their pee pee? It was too inappropriate to be put here.


"Some parts of your body are private parts. Other people shouldn't be touching the area covered by your swimsuit, whether you know the person or not. If someone touches you anywhere in that area, tell your parents, or come tell me or another school teacher. We'll help you."

I agree with that, but it would probably best be taught in the format of a story. That's a little different from Sex Ed in my book, though.

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Postby Souseiseki » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:11 am

Esternial wrote:
Tsuntion wrote:
"Some parts of your body are private parts. Other people shouldn't be touching the area covered by your swimsuit, whether you know the person or not. If someone touches you anywhere in that area, tell your parents, or come tell me or another school teacher. We'll help you."

I agree with that, but it would probably best be taught in the format of a story. That's a little different from Sex Ed in my book, though.



shit i was pretty sure you read the article

but now i need to ask

did you read the article (or are you kinda taking a massively different interpretation of sex ed than what the article that started the thread is actually about)
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:12 am

Esternial wrote:
Tsuntion wrote:
"Some parts of your body are private parts. Other people shouldn't be touching the area covered by your swimsuit, whether you know the person or not. If someone touches you anywhere in that area, tell your parents, or come tell me or another school teacher. We'll help you."

I agree with that, but it would probably best be taught in the format of a story. That's a little different from Sex Ed in my book, though.

If you would ~read the article~ you will notice that they do not plan on teaching sex ed. The course is to teach kids about body parts, bullying, abuse, and different family dynamics.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:13 am

Lenninists wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I'm not convinced you actually read the article.



I skimmed it hence why i said *see* instead of *read* im not convinced you read my post.

Don't skim, because you missed the whole thing where they're not teaching sex ed.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:14 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Esternial wrote:I agree with that, but it would probably best be taught in the format of a story. That's a little different from Sex Ed in my book, though.

If you would ~read the article~ you will notice that they do not plan on teaching sex ed. The course is to teach kids about body parts, bullying, abuse, and different family dynamics.

Hmm, I did go along with what aquafire said. My mistake.

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Postby Aquafireland » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:15 am

Tsuntion wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:Your kidding, right?


Why?

Children will learn about family structures and about bullying issues. All fine and dandy.

Children will learn what body parts are called. They know the names for fingers and toes; why would it be so awful to know the names of penises and vaginas? This doesn't even have to encompass their functions.

Children will learn about appropriate touching along with this. This is very important. It means they know a little of what sexual abuse is and how to stop it. I don't see how anyone can be against that.

Why, you ask? I can tell you.

It is quite unhumane to actually teach toddlers sex education at that similar age. It would ruin their entire childhood with the topic in mind, giving them opportunities to actually watch porn and do other sexually related activities under the age of ten. That is pretty weird.

At that certain age, all a child needs to learn is the simple body parts like fingers, hands, toes etc. Now if you want them to learn something else apart from that, I can say that you are going a bit too fast.

Just think about it. I give you the question: Would you want your child to learn information about such a mature topic at that age?
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:16 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Tsuntion wrote:
Why?

Children will learn about family structures and about bullying issues. All fine and dandy.

Children will learn what body parts are called. They know the names for fingers and toes; why would it be so awful to know the names of penises and vaginas? This doesn't even have to encompass their functions.

Children will learn about appropriate touching along with this. This is very important. It means they know a little of what sexual abuse is and how to stop it. I don't see how anyone can be against that.

Why, you ask? I can tell you.

It is quite unhumane to actually teach toddlers sex education at that similar age. It would ruin their entire childhood with the topic in mind, giving them opportunities to actually watch porn and do other sexually related activities under the age of ten. That is pretty weird.

At that certain age, all a child needs to learn is the simple body parts like fingers, hands, toes etc. Now if you want them to learn something else apart from that, I can say that you are going a bit too fast.

Just think about it. I give you the question: Would you want your child to learn information about such a mature topic at that age?

Read the article.
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:16 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
anyone who was interested in teaching children about sex.

you know how you teach kindergarteners about math by learning the numbers instead of starting with calculus? you start with sex ed in a similar way.

Wait, your first lesson in Kindergarten WASN'T on derivatives?

it was so long ago Im not sure calculus existed yet.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:17 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Wait, your first lesson in Kindergarten WASN'T on derivatives?

it was so long ago Im not sure calculus existed yet.

Grrr, you should have questioned Newton and Leibniz on who really founded calculus then.
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Postby Souseiseki » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:17 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Tsuntion wrote:
Why?

Children will learn about family structures and about bullying issues. All fine and dandy.

Children will learn what body parts are called. They know the names for fingers and toes; why would it be so awful to know the names of penises and vaginas? This doesn't even have to encompass their functions.

Children will learn about appropriate touching along with this. This is very important. It means they know a little of what sexual abuse is and how to stop it. I don't see how anyone can be against that.

Why, you ask? I can tell you.

It is quite unhumane to actually teach toddlers sex education at that similar age. It would ruin their entire childhood with the topic in mind, giving them opportunities to actually watch porn and do other sexually related activities under the age of ten. That is pretty weird.

At that certain age, all a child needs to learn is the simple body parts like fingers, hands, toes etc. Now if you want them to learn something else apart from that, I can say that you are going a bit too fast.

Just think about it. I give you the question: Would you want your child to learn information about such a mature topic at that age?


do you honestly think that "this is called a penis, don't let adults fondle your penis" is going to lead into watching porn and fucking behind the shed?
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:19 am

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Vazdania wrote:I'm pretty sure that's not legal in America. Just FYI.


It is. I loved playing with them, Still do. Never been burnt by em.

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It is illegal? It is legal? You love playing with children? The juxtaposition of these remarks brings you very close to the edge.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:19 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:Why, you ask? I can tell you.

It is quite unhumane to actually teach toddlers sex education at that similar age. It would ruin their entire childhood with the topic in mind, giving them opportunities to actually watch porn and do other sexually related activities under the age of ten. That is pretty weird.

At that certain age, all a child needs to learn is the simple body parts like fingers, hands, toes etc. Now if you want them to learn something else apart from that, I can say that you are going a bit too fast.

Just think about it. I give you the question: Would you want your child to learn information about such a mature topic at that age?


do you honestly think that "this is called a penis, don't let adults fondle your penis" is going to lead into watching porn and fucking behind the shed?

"Don't let little Johnny know he has a penis, he will start having sex as soon as he gets out of diapers."
"... But he can see between his legs, so I--"
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Postby Aquafireland » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:19 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:Why, you ask? I can tell you.

It is quite unhumane to actually teach toddlers sex education at that similar age. It would ruin their entire childhood with the topic in mind, giving them opportunities to actually watch porn and do other sexually related activities under the age of ten. That is pretty weird.

At that certain age, all a child needs to learn is the simple body parts like fingers, hands, toes etc. Now if you want them to learn something else apart from that, I can say that you are going a bit too fast.

Just think about it. I give you the question: Would you want your child to learn information about such a mature topic at that age?

Read the article.

For your information, I have not read the article. What is so precious in that little article of yours that would destroy the argument entirely?
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Postby Esternial » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:20 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
do you honestly think that "this is called a penis, don't let adults fondle your penis" is going to lead into watching porn and fucking behind the shed?

"Don't let little Johnny know he has a penis, he will start having sex as soon as he gets out of diapers."
"... But he can see between his legs, so I--"
"THEN WE WILL BLIND HIM."

Just feed him a lot and his belly will obstruct his view *nods*

And destroy all the mirrors and reflective surfaces.

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:20 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Read the article.

For your information, I have not read the article. What is so precious in that little article of yours that would destroy the argument entirely?

BECAUSE THEY AREN'T TEACHING SEX ED TO KINDERGARTENERS.
If you would read the damn article you would know that.
The OP is just reactionary bullshit.
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Postby Aquafireland » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:21 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:Why, you ask? I can tell you.

It is quite unhumane to actually teach toddlers sex education at that similar age. It would ruin their entire childhood with the topic in mind, giving them opportunities to actually watch porn and do other sexually related activities under the age of ten. That is pretty weird.

At that certain age, all a child needs to learn is the simple body parts like fingers, hands, toes etc. Now if you want them to learn something else apart from that, I can say that you are going a bit too fast.

Just think about it. I give you the question: Would you want your child to learn information about such a mature topic at that age?


do you honestly think that "this is called a penis, don't let adults fondle your penis" is going to lead into watching porn and fucking behind the shed?

No, all I am saying is it is not normal for a child to learn sex-ed at that age, as they have an entire ten years ahead of them in middle school to actually dig into that topic.
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Postby Aquafireland » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:22 am

Esternial wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:"Don't let little Johnny know he has a penis, he will start having sex as soon as he gets out of diapers."
"... But he can see between his legs, so I--"
"THEN WE WILL BLIND HIM."

Just feed him a lot and his belly will obstruct his view *nods*

And destroy all the mirrors and reflective surfaces.

Will do.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:22 am

What a terrible idea. The less children that know if they're being sexually assaulted, the better for society :roll:
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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:22 am

Esternial wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Why?

At that age, children are still playing and having fun. For the same reason we don't actively teach them math, I agree we should actively teach them anything aside from basic exercises to prepare their wee little minds for actual classes.

I feel it would be better taught after Kindergarten.

At least in my case, kindergarten wasn't really intended for "studying" but rather for playing. None of the stuff we were taught were really intensely focused on anything, as far as I recall. Sex Ed is pretty damn important, so it shouldn't be taught when children are still in that playful stage of their education.

You didn't read the article then... Good to know.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:23 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
do you honestly think that "this is called a penis, don't let adults fondle your penis" is going to lead into watching porn and fucking behind the shed?

No, all I am saying is it is not normal for a child to learn sex-ed at that age, as they have an entire ten years ahead of them in middle school to actually dig into that topic.

THat's ALL they're teaching them!
"Boys have penises, girls have vaginas. If someone touches you there, tell an adult."
THAT'S IT.
Read. THe. Article.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:24 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:No, all I am saying is it is not normal for a child to learn sex-ed at that age, as they have an entire ten years ahead of them in middle school to actually dig into that topic.

THat's ALL they're teaching them!
"Boys have penises, girls have vaginas. If someone touches you there, tell an adult."
THAT'S IT.
Read. THe. Article.

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Postby Esternial » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:24 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Esternial wrote:At that age, children are still playing and having fun. For the same reason we don't actively teach them math, I agree we should actively teach them anything aside from basic exercises to prepare their wee little minds for actual classes.

I feel it would be better taught after Kindergarten.

At least in my case, kindergarten wasn't really intended for "studying" but rather for playing. None of the stuff we were taught were really intensely focused on anything, as far as I recall. Sex Ed is pretty damn important, so it shouldn't be taught when children are still in that playful stage of their education.

You didn't read the article then... Good to know.

Surprisingly, that has already been addressed.

Good to know you don't pay attention, or don't choose to.

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