What if London...wasn't there anymore (A challenge)

[Glasgia]

Nice poem. Bloody Welsh should've fought at Brunanburh, if they had Caer Dydd might've survived as capital of an independent Cymru and us Scots would have Northumbria. Hell, London would be a prosperous trading post fought over between the Mwy o Ymerodraeth Cymru and the Kingdom of Wessex. We could've crushed the English from the start.

Being a Glaswegian, you'd be part of the Kingdom of Strathclyde, so you'd probably have ended up with Cumbria and Lancashire instead. You can make up your own mind as to whether that would've been better. Also, the little village of Aberffraw on Anglesey would be a likely candidate for capital of Greater Wales (and perhaps all Britain).

Half my family is English, but from Nottinghamshire so maybe Danish, and the other half Scottish, both from Glasgow but one side traditionally from Stirling and the other taig. If I follow the male line, my Stirling family would've been a part of Goddodin until it was incorporated into Alba.

Therefore, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if the Welsh had fought, my ancestor would've slayed Aethelstan as the English were broken by a combined Welsh-Scots boarhead and then routed. He presented the crown to King Constantine and was granted lands around the modern settlement of Stirling. Fast forward a few hundred years and my family have become second only to the King in Scotland. In a campaign against the English, the Scottish army is held at London by Wessex. Though their Welsh allies secure the Scots retreat, the invaders take many casualties including King Daibidh III himself. Seannnaghdh of Clan Buchanan and House Wands seizes the throne, supported by the Welsh, and establishes my family as the ruling dynasty in Scotland. As King Graham ages, I would currently be the third in line to the Scottish throne.

That's why the Welsh should've bloody fought.

[Ultrapia]

I would say Edinburgh would be capital but I would like the idea of my local city, Newcastle, of being capital.

[Dooom35796821595]

A floating London thanks to quantum locking and we rename it New London.

[Keronians]

Why do people think the economic powers would locate themselves away from the political powers. They go hand in hand.

Tell that to Washington DC. And Delhi.

[The UK in Exile]

Being a Glaswegian, you'd be part of the Kingdom of Strathclyde, so you'd probably have ended up with Cumbria and Lancashire instead. You can make up your own mind as to whether that would've been better. Also, the little village of Aberffraw on Anglesey would be a likely candidate for capital of Greater Wales (and perhaps all Britain).

Half my family is English, but from Nottinghamshire so maybe Danish, and the other half Scottish, both from Glasgow but one side traditionally from Stirling and the other taig. If I follow the male line, my Stirling family would've been a part of Goddodin until it was incorporated into Alba.

Therefore, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if the Welsh had fought, my ancestor would've slayed Aethelstan as the English were broken by a combined Welsh-Scots boarhead and then routed. He presented the crown to King Constantine and was granted lands around the modern settlement of Stirling. Fast forward a few hundred years and my family have become second only to the King in Scotland. In a campaign against the English, the Scottish army is held at London by Wessex. Though their Welsh allies secure the Scots retreat, the invaders take many casualties including King Daibidh III himself. Seannnaghdh of Clan Buchanan and House Wands seizes the throne, supported by the Welsh, and establishes my family as the ruling dynasty in Scotland. As King Graham ages, I would currently be the third in line to the Scottish throne.

That's why the Welsh should've bloody fought.

The bitter recriminations of the Celtic peoples over why exactly it was that they all ended up under the English yoke never fail to warm the heart.

[Rio Cana]

The UK. Royal Construction Company will fix what is wrong with the isle. A bridge would most likely be built to connect the isle to the main island. Something like this.

See video of Florida Keys Seven Mile Bridge - http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Sev ... FORM=VIRE5

It Would, if the Royal Construction Company was a thing.

I just made it up since I have no idea of the names of any UK. construction companies.

[Angleter]

Being a Glaswegian, you'd be part of the Kingdom of Strathclyde, so you'd probably have ended up with Cumbria and Lancashire instead. You can make up your own mind as to whether that would've been better. Also, the little village of Aberffraw on Anglesey would be a likely candidate for capital of Greater Wales (and perhaps all Britain).

Half my family is English, but from Nottinghamshire so maybe Danish, and the other half Scottish, both from Glasgow but one side traditionally from Stirling and the other taig. If I follow the male line, my Stirling family would've been a part of Goddodin until it was incorporated into Alba.

Therefore, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if the Welsh had fought, my ancestor would've slayed Aethelstan as the English were broken by a combined Welsh-Scots boarhead and then routed. He presented the crown to King Constantine and was granted lands around the modern settlement of Stirling. Fast forward a few hundred years and my family have become second only to the King in Scotland. In a campaign against the English, the Scottish army is held at London by Wessex. Though their Welsh allies secure the Scots retreat, the invaders take many casualties including King Daibidh III himself. Seannnaghdh of Clan Buchanan and House Wands seizes the throne, supported by the Welsh, and establishes my family as the ruling dynasty in Scotland. As King Graham ages, I would currently be the third in line to the Scottish throne.

That's why the Welsh should've bloody fought.

Gododdin fell to Northumbria, didn't it?

Anyway, I'm fairly sure I can claim to have ancestors who would've fought in the Dublin army (possibly Norse-Gael on father's side), the English army (maternal grandfather's side), or the Welsh army (maternal grandmother's side - she was English, but her ancestors originated from Herefordshire and had a very Welsh surname).

I really ought to get round to playing this all out on Crusader Kings II.

[The British Stratocracy]

Wow this thread really hit it off.


Edinburgh is my firm choice.

[Glasgia]

Half my family is English, but from Nottinghamshire so maybe Danish, and the other half Scottish, both from Glasgow but one side traditionally from Stirling and the other taig. If I follow the male line, my Stirling family would've been a part of Goddodin until it was incorporated into Alba.

Therefore, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if the Welsh had fought, my ancestor would've slayed Aethelstan as the English were broken by a combined Welsh-Scots boarhead and then routed. He presented the crown to King Constantine and was granted lands around the modern settlement of Stirling. Fast forward a few hundred years and my family have become second only to the King in Scotland. In a campaign against the English, the Scottish army is held at London by Wessex. Though their Welsh allies secure the Scots retreat, the invaders take many casualties including King Daibidh III himself. Seannnaghdh of Clan Buchanan and House Wands seizes the throne, supported by the Welsh, and establishes my family as the ruling dynasty in Scotland. As King Graham ages, I would currently be the third in line to the Scottish throne.

That's why the Welsh should've bloody fought.

The bitter recriminations of the Celtic peoples over why exactly it was that they all ended up under the English yoke never fail to warm the heart.

It was a joke, I'm half English. Then again, we'd never have the union if the English had houred our alliance and stopped the Spanish from blockading the Darien Expedition. There are about a billion points in history when we could've avoided English dominance and we fucked up every time. Serves us Celts right, at least you Angles got the whole unity idea.

[Keronians]

I guess I'd go with Manchester.

*shivers* The North. *shivers*

[Rio Cana]

A floating London thanks to quantum locking and we rename it New London.

Too late, that name is taken in the US unless you add another "New".

Sort of like that animated show Futurama which is set in the future. In that animated show, New York is called "New New York".

[Keronians]

A floating London thanks to quantum locking and we rename it New London.

Too late, that name is taken in the US unless you add another "New".

Sort of like that animated show Futurama which is set in the future. In that animated show, New York is called "New New York".

So what if an American New London already exists? Cambridge already existed when Cambridge, MA was created. As did London when London, Ontario was created.

[Unionist State of Scotland]

Come on Edinburgh, just a few more votes and we beat Manchester.

[Keronians]

Come on Edinburgh, just a few more votes and we beat Manchester.

Manchester makes more sense than Edinburgh as capital of the UK.

[Glasgia]

Half my family is English, but from Nottinghamshire so maybe Danish, and the other half Scottish, both from Glasgow but one side traditionally from Stirling and the other taig. If I follow the male line, my Stirling family would've been a part of Goddodin until it was incorporated into Alba.

Therefore, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if the Welsh had fought, my ancestor would've slayed Aethelstan as the English were broken by a combined Welsh-Scots boarhead and then routed. He presented the crown to King Constantine and was granted lands around the modern settlement of Stirling. Fast forward a few hundred years and my family have become second only to the King in Scotland. In a campaign against the English, the Scottish army is held at London by Wessex. Though their Welsh allies secure the Scots retreat, the invaders take many casualties including King Daibidh III himself. Seannnaghdh of Clan Buchanan and House Wands seizes the throne, supported by the Welsh, and establishes my family as the ruling dynasty in Scotland. As King Graham ages, I would currently be the third in line to the Scottish throne.

That's why the Welsh should've bloody fought.

Gododdin fell to Northumbria, didn't it?

Anyway, I'm fairly sure I can claim to have ancestors who would've fought in the Dublin army (possibly Norse-Gael on father's side), the English army (maternal grandfather's side), or the Welsh army (maternal grandmother's side - she was English, but her ancestors originated from Herefordshire and had a very Welsh surname).

I really ought to get round to playing this all out on Crusader Kings II.

Just another reason to get that game... Create a mod with a 938 start where the English have been crushed?

[Great Britain and Ulster-]

Come on Edinburgh, just a few more votes and we beat Manchester.

Edinburgh is a capital of the British home nations, like London. It makes far more sense to have the Scots cap for the Union capital then Manchester.

[Keronians]

Come on Edinburgh, just a few more votes and we beat Manchester.

Edinburgh is a capital of the British home nations, like London. It makes far more sense to have the Scots cap for the Union capital then Manchester.

But Manchester is more populous, is geographically larger, and has a better and bigger economy.

[Unionist State of Scotland]

Edinburgh is a capital of the British home nations, like London. It makes far more sense to have the Scots cap for the Union capital then Manchester.

But Manchester is more populous, is geographically larger, and has a better and bigger economy.

Its not an historic and cultural British capital. Manchester would very good city for the new financial district however. But place the politicians in Edinburgh.

That way we get to separate the corporate executives and national leaders

[The Royal Colonial Navy]

But Manchester is more populous, is geographically larger, and has a better and bigger economy.

Its not an historic and cultural British capital. Manchester would very good city for the new financial district however. But place the politicians in Edinburgh.

That way we get to separate the corporate executives and national leaders

Agreed