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Which city should host the 2020 Summer Olympics?

Madrid
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Istanbul
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Postby Ariddia » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:32 am

Mike the Progressive wrote:In any case, I'd like Istanbul, because it would be a first for the Arab world.


Turkey is not part of the Arab world. Most Turks are not Arabs.

Speaking purely out of self-interest as a Frenchman, I hope Madrid doesn't get it. :p Sorry to all Spaniards, but if you get the 2020 Games, that completely rules out any hope for France getting them in 2024. And we haven't had the Summer Olympics in this country since 1924, damn it! Having them back for the centennial would be nice.

Between Istanbul and Tokyo, I have no clear preference. I'm sure both would put on good Games. I'd perhaps lean slightly to Istanbul, on the grounds that they haven't had it yet - and that it might help develop positive interest in Turkey among Europeans. (That is, unless the IOC considers that 2020 Games in Turkey prohibit any European country from hosting in 2024. In which case, go Tokyo! :p)
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Postby Kemalist » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:41 am

Mike the Progressive wrote:I'd like Istanbul, because it would be a first for the Arab world.


Seriously?

Turkey is classified as in Europe since it's a member of the European Olympic Committees, which technically means it would be an European country hosting the 2020 Summer Olympics if Turkey gets it. Not to mention that geographically Istanbul is a far cry from the Arab world/Middle East in the first place.
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:44 am

Tokyo or Istanbul. We should boycott Spain because of their attempts to force the UK into giving them Gibraltar.
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Postby Horusland » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:57 am

Japan would be awesome. I live very close to Istanbul, though, and might actually afford to go there sometime.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:26 am

Istanbul. A city steeped in history and Culture.


Tokyo would just be filled with annoying westerners going on about how 'awesome kawaii desu naaaaaay Japan is.

Also the Japanese would probably end up shoehornIng some shit anime thing into it.
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Postby Srboslavija » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:28 am

All three sound like good choices - but what are their stances on LGBT equality?
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:32 am

Srboslavija wrote:All three sound like good choices - but what are their stances on LGBT equality?


Spain allow same-sex marriage completely, Turkey does not recognise same-sex marriages, and neither does Japan.
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Postby Srboslavija » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:33 am

Voted Madrid :hug:
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Postby Kemalist » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:34 am

The Matthew Islands wrote:Also the Japanese would probably end up shoehornIng some shit anime thing into it.


Which would be awesome.
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:34 am

I don't think that's the best bet. Sure, they allow same-sex marriage, but they're completely screwed financially, and an olympics would probably push them over the edge.
Also, as a Brit, I want to boycott Spain because they are infringing the right of choice of the citizens of Gibraltar.
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Postby Horusland » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:41 am

The Matthew Islands wrote:Istanbul. A city steeped in history and Culture.


Tokyo would just be filled with annoying westerners going on about how 'awesome kawaii desu naaaaaay Japan is.

Also the Japanese would probably end up shoehornIng some shit anime thing into it.

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Srboslavija wrote:All three sound like good choices - but what are their stances on LGBT equality?


Spain allow same-sex marriage completely, Turkey does not recognise same-sex marriages, and neither does Japan.

I'm suddenly inclined to vote for Spain, after what happened in Russia.
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Postby Aquafireland » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:11 am

I do hear that a number of sportspersons are supporting Madrid for the bid, but in my opinion, I actually go for Tokyo due to the fact that by 2020, the city is going to get pretty high-tech so I do see potential in a Japanese bid.
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Postby Horusland » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:54 am

Aquafireland wrote:I do hear that a number of sportspersons are supporting Madrid for the bid, but in my opinion, I actually go for Tokyo due to the fact that by 2020, the city is going to get pretty high-tech so I do see potential in a Japanese bid.

More high-tech than now? :o
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:58 am

Japan. For an Olympics so good that it'll return Hawaii and annex upstart China.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:03 am

Kemalist wrote:The host city is going to be decided on 7th September, meaning only 3 days left. Which city should get it? I'm torn between two options. I love Japan, their language, culture, people, cities, and especially Anime. And the fact that they will use Anime as the main theme makes me so excited... I feel so close to it. I support their football team and such. Turkey is my homeland on the other hand. I don't really know whom to support. If Tokyo wins it, I won't get unhappy, which also applies to Istanbul. But if Madrid gets it I'll be seriously unhappy.
My vote's for Chicago, and it will always be for Chicago. My hometown was screwed out of the 2016 Olympics despite having ready-made inferastructure and a history of hosting big international events because of some limp-wristed sentimentality and potential anti-American bias on the IOC council.
So here's hoping that Brazil gets shut out of all medal contention in 2016.
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Postby Newzie » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:14 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Kemalist wrote:The host city is going to be decided on 7th September, meaning only 3 days left. Which city should get it? I'm torn between two options. I love Japan, their language, culture, people, cities, and especially Anime. And the fact that they will use Anime as the main theme makes me so excited... I feel so close to it. I support their football team and such. Turkey is my homeland on the other hand. I don't really know whom to support. If Tokyo wins it, I won't get unhappy, which also applies to Istanbul. But if Madrid gets it I'll be seriously unhappy.
My vote's for Chicago, and it will always be for Chicago. My hometown was screwed out of the 2016 Olympics despite having ready-made inferastructure and a history of hosting big international events because of some limp-wristed sentimentality and potential anti-American bias on the IOC council.
So here's hoping that Brazil gets shut out of all medal contention in 2016.

Wow the butthurt here.

Anti-Americanism? Seriously?

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Postby Forsakia » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:19 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Kemalist wrote:The host city is going to be decided on 7th September, meaning only 3 days left. Which city should get it? I'm torn between two options. I love Japan, their language, culture, people, cities, and especially Anime. And the fact that they will use Anime as the main theme makes me so excited... I feel so close to it. I support their football team and such. Turkey is my homeland on the other hand. I don't really know whom to support. If Tokyo wins it, I won't get unhappy, which also applies to Istanbul. But if Madrid gets it I'll be seriously unhappy.
My vote's for Chicago, and it will always be for Chicago. My hometown was screwed out of the 2016 Olympics despite having ready-made inferastructure and a history of hosting big international events because of some limp-wristed sentimentality and potential anti-American bias on the IOC council.
So here's hoping that Brazil gets shut out of all medal contention in 2016.


Stop moaning, the US had been racking up summer olympics (and you weren't screwed, you just got beat).
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Postby New Gliese » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:33 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Kemalist wrote:The host city is going to be decided on 7th September, meaning only 3 days left. Which city should get it? I'm torn between two options. I love Japan, their language, culture, people, cities, and especially Anime. And the fact that they will use Anime as the main theme makes me so excited... I feel so close to it. I support their football team and such. Turkey is my homeland on the other hand. I don't really know whom to support. If Tokyo wins it, I won't get unhappy, which also applies to Istanbul. But if Madrid gets it I'll be seriously unhappy.
My vote's for Chicago, and it will always be for Chicago. My hometown was screwed out of the 2016 Olympics despite having ready-made inferastructure and a history of hosting big international events because of some limp-wristed sentimentality and potential anti-American bias on the IOC council.
So here's hoping that Brazil gets shut out of all medal contention in 2016.


ANTI-AMERICANISM?!?! You're kidding me!!! St. Louis 1904, Los Angeles 1932, 84, Atlanta 1996, Lake Placid 1932, 80, Salt City 2002, Squaw Valley 1960! You've hosted the Olympics more times than whole continents have!!
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:42 am

Anti-Americanism on the IOC? Must be new, because as far as I'm aware you've hosted the most olympics of any country: St. Louis 1904, Lake Placid 1932, Los Angeles 1932, Squaw Valley 1960, Lake Placid 1980, Atlanta 1996, Salt Lake City 2002.

Try a little bit of background research next time
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Postby Newzie » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:48 am

New Gliese wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:My vote's for Chicago, and it will always be for Chicago. My hometown was screwed out of the 2016 Olympics despite having ready-made inferastructure and a history of hosting big international events because of some limp-wristed sentimentality and potential anti-American bias on the IOC council.
So here's hoping that Brazil gets shut out of all medal contention in 2016.


ANTI-AMERICANISM?!?! You're kidding me!!! St. Louis 1904, Los Angeles 1932, 84, Atlanta 1996, Lake Placid 1932, 80, Salt City 2002, Squaw Valley 1960! You've hosted the Olympics more times than whole continents have!!

But but but but that doesn't make any sense!!! The USA is the obvious choice for everything! It couldn't possibly be that Brazil is a rapidly growing country and that the IOC wanted to bring the games to a new continent, one in which it has never been hosted!!
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:49 am

Newzie wrote:
New Gliese wrote:
ANTI-AMERICANISM?!?! You're kidding me!!! St. Louis 1904, Los Angeles 1932, 84, Atlanta 1996, Lake Placid 1932, 80, Salt City 2002, Squaw Valley 1960! You've hosted the Olympics more times than whole continents have!!

But but but but that doesn't make any sense!!! The USA is the obvious choice for everything! It couldn't possibly be that Brazil is a rapidly growing country and that the IOC wanted to bring the games to a new continent, one in which it has never been hosted!!


Don't say that, the American probably doesn't understand sarcasm and will think you're being serious, before responding:
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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:39 am

Newzie wrote:
New Gliese wrote:
ANTI-AMERICANISM?!?! You're kidding me!!! St. Louis 1904, Los Angeles 1932, 84, Atlanta 1996, Lake Placid 1932, 80, Salt City 2002, Squaw Valley 1960! You've hosted the Olympics more times than whole continents have!!

But but but but that doesn't make any sense!!! The USA is the obvious choice for everything! It couldn't possibly be that Brazil is a rapidly growing country and that the IOC wanted to bring the games to a new continent, one in which it has never been hosted!!


The situation in Rio is rapidly starting to look like Athens 2: Electric Boogaloo. Maybe Chicago would have been a better choice after all.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:44 am

Plz 4 the turkeyyyyy
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:48 am

Turkey. Turkey. Turkey.

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So, what? the state does not equal people. Turkey is a popular tourist destination which is visited by many Americans every year. Your comprehension is wrong, I have to say.

It says on the poll "Percent of people who have a favorable opinion of the US minus the unfavorable percent"
Generally when you hate a foreign state, you are not going to be very hospitable to its people.

Nonsense. I have a strong and overwhelming dislike of the American state, but I'm sure you would not accuse me of racism against Americans given my good relationship with many, many Americans on this same forum. I would welcome every American to visit Lithuania if they wanted to.
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Postby Ramenasia » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:06 am

Istanbul is a great city filled with historical stuff to visit. There's not much to see in Tokyo besides steel, glass, and weird vending machines.
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