Does equality ever go too far?

[Mike the Progressive]

If that is the case, then what are transgender people supposed to do?

Hold it until they get home, I guess.

To be fair, depending where you're at, that might be the better option regardless of what gender you are or with what gender you identify with.

[Dyakovo]

Does equality ever go too far?
What do you think?

No.
Thus ends another episode of short answers for stupid questions.

[Caltarania]

No.

But people claiming to want equality, in order to be more-equal than others, that is wrong.

[Castille de Italia]

Yes.

[Shaggai]

Yes.

How?

[Ostroeuropa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck8ipUWKeYc

Here is how equality goes too far.

Otherwise, no. Never.

[Mike the Progressive]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck8ipUWKeYc

Here is how equality goes too far.

Otherwise, no. Never.

What the fuck did I just watch...

[Ostroeuropa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck8ipUWKeYc

Here is how equality goes too far.

Otherwise, no. Never.

What the fuck did I just watch...

Communism in action

[Risottia]

Does equality ever go too far?

For example:
Special needs and handicapped kids at public schools possibly being a distraction.

No. If you aren't mature enough to consider handicapped classmates as any other classmate, you're the problem.

Transgender students using their chosen gender's bathroom.

Neither. Why do you have to peep at other people's genitalia, unless invited to do so?

The fact that you can make fun of any race you want, but if you say a thing about black people, you are toast.

Utter bullshit.

[Lost heros]

Equality is fine, as long as I am more equal than everyone else.
[/sarcasm]

[Quackquackhonk]

Does equality ever go too far?

...no? how could equality go to far?

For example:
Special needs and handicapped kids at public schools possibly being a distraction.

not an example of equality?

Transgender students using their chosen gender's bathroom.

is a problem because?

The fact that you can make fun of any race you want, but if you say a thing about black people, you are toast.

the second part of what you said undermines the first. your non-clear thought is a sign you really don't know what you're saying.

I personally believe that racism is unacceptable in all forms even against "crackas", but still wrong against blacks.

good for you?

I'm neutral about the transgender bathroom situation.

and no explanation is given as to why.

When I was in middle school the special needs students did distract me, all they did was walk around the school all day and it bothered me during a test. That isn't the main reason I was frustrated, I thought that they needed some sort of education besides walking around the school.

wtf is the above, i don't understand it at all.

What do you think?

your opening post is unclear. what are we supposed to be discussing, if enforcing equality among people ever goes too far? if that's the case, why don't you show some examples of equality going too far.

[Surfistan]

No? Otherwise it's not true equality?!

[Des-Bal]

No. If you aren't mature enough to consider handicapped classmates as any other classmate, you're the problem.

If any other classmate moaned and drooled during class they would be thrown out.

[Leningrad Union]

No. If you aren't mature enough to consider handicapped classmates as any other classmate, you're the problem.

If any other classmate moaned and drooled during class they would be thrown out.

They weren't in my class, they roamed the hallways moaning and groaning. I considered them as fellow classmates, but let's be realistic. They were a distraction and needed a better education plan.

[Ifreann]

Does equality ever go too far?
What do you think?

No.
Thus ends another episode of short answers for stupid questions.

Ninja'd

Does equality ever go too far?

No.

Short answers, stupid questions, etc.

[Des-Bal]

They weren't in my class, they roamed the hallways moaning and groaning. I considered them as fellow classmates, but let's be realistic. They were a distraction and needed a better education plan.

How much do you know about their education plans? Mine had a focus on "life skills" they learned to clean and cook and understand basic emotional responses because that was how they were going to become functioning members of society. Sure they often weren't in a classroom but they were learning.

[Lithosano]

If any other classmate moaned and drooled during class they would be thrown out.

They weren't in my class, they roamed the hallways moaning and groaning. I considered them as fellow classmates, but let's be realistic. They were a distraction and needed a better education plan.

The way your phrase it implies that the special needs students were wandering the hallways without any sort of supervision or purpose.

If that was the case, then the problem is with your school and their seeming inability to handle their special needs students.

[Leningrad Union]

They weren't in my class, they roamed the hallways moaning and groaning. I considered them as fellow classmates, but let's be realistic. They were a distraction and needed a better education plan.

How much do you know about their education plans? Mine had a focus on "life skills" they learned to clean and cook and understand basic emotional responses because that was how they were going to become functioning members of society. Sure they often weren't in a classroom but they were learning.

They were doing chores around the school, still a possible learning experience. But wouldn't it be better for them to go to a special school and have 1 on 1 time with a teacher learning mathematics and language skills?

[Des-Bal]

They were doing chores around the school, still a possible learning experience. But wouldn't it be better for them to go to a special school and have 1 on 1 time with a teacher learning mathematics and language skills?

No. Because that isn't what they need. Being developmentally disabled means you have a hard time developing basic skills. Learning responsibility, learning to preform basic tasks, and basic life skills are all things that normal people pick up without any fuss. Their learning objectives aren't absent they are just different from yours.

[Leningrad Union]

They weren't in my class, they roamed the hallways moaning and groaning. I considered them as fellow classmates, but let's be realistic. They were a distraction and needed a better education plan.

The way your phrase it implies that the special needs students were wandering the hallways without any sort of supervision or purpose.

If that was the case, then the problem is with your school and their seeming inability to handle their special needs students.

Half of the time, they weren't supervised. Apparently, in the bathroom they screamed and intimidated some of my friends when they were just trying to take a piss. A friend of mine started crying because he thought that they were unpredictable. (Remember, this was around 6th grade and my friend was 11) There should at least be a teacher standing next to the bathroom doorway.

[Liriena]

If that is the case, then what are transgender people supposed to do?

Their biological sex determines it.

So...send trans girls to men's restrooms? Brilliant!

[Des-Bal]

So...send trans girls to men's restrooms? Brilliant!

Why not?

[Lost heros]

So...send trans girls to men's restrooms? Brilliant!

Why not?

Because they will look like girls, act like girls, and be checked out like girls are.

[Lithosano]

So...send trans girls to men's restrooms? Brilliant!

Why not?

Because a trans* woman in the boy's restroom is liable to get bullied, beaten up, or worse.

Seriously, can you imagine what would happen if a trans* woman who dresses in female clothes, carries a purse, and generally presents herself as female walks into a man's restroom? At best she will get some strange looks. At worst... see above.

[Lithosano]

Why not?

Because they will look like girls, act like girls, and be checked out like girls are.

Until the boys find out she isn't an "actual girl."