Philosophic Question:Solve It!

[Minarchist States]

Arguably the definition of "God" isn't merely limited to the Judeo-Christians, but culturally, yes.

Actually, not even culturally.

That's what I meant.

"God," could be described through various interpretations, I think the philosopher's concept of God is a bit different to the Judeo-Christian's interpretations of Him, as I don't believe they regarded "God" in the metaphysical or "gnostic" sense, but rather as Aristotle sees it, the image in our head that we are trying to replicate through our actions, ergo morality.

But that brings us back to the origin of morality. I think morality isn't "made up," in the basic sense but a trait that is psychologically innate to group cooperation. In other words, morality appears as a set of unspoken rules that men follow in order to work together.

But is it Nature or Nurture?

[The Aztec Allience]

Because God is to busy running an entire universe to give a crap about a few problems on one single planet.

[Divair]

Because God is to busy running an entire universe to give a crap about a few problems on one single planet.

How can a god be busy?

[Cill Airne]

Ahhh... The problem of evil, one of my favorite parts of the philosophy of religion. This particular argument is in the form modus tollens which means if your premise is true then the conclusion follows of necessity. However, it is entirely possible that omnibenevolence is not a trait of God, allowing for him to be mostly, or primarily good, whilst still allowing for him to coexist with evil (dystheism).
There are also the omnipotence paradoxes raise questions as to the nature of God's omnipotence, with some solutions proposing that omnipotence does not require the ability to actualize the logically impossible. But I don't feel like getting into that at the moment.

[Vazdania]

This is a good question :

If God was completely good then he would want to stop all evil, if God was completely powerful then he could stop all evil, but evil exists....so does that mean that God is not completely good or not completely powerful, or does god not exist?

Please post your ideas about this question!

Our God is an awesome God. God alone is has the power to create, God causes both Good and 'Evil' to occur within our lives, for us to better understand him.

[Cameroi]

Because God is to busy running an entire universe to give a crap about a few problems on one single planet.

How can a god be busy?

how can it not.

[Divair]

How can a god be busy?

how can it not.

They're meant to be all powerful.

[Blasveck]

This is a good question :

If God was completely good then he would want to stop all evil, if God was completely powerful then he could stop all evil, but evil exists....so does that mean that God is not completely good or not completely powerful, or does god not exist?

Please post your ideas about this question!

Our God is an awesome God. God alone is has the power to create, God causes both Good and 'Evil' to occur within our lives, for us to better understand him.

Why not just "Magic" understanding into our heads?

[Liriena]

But that brings us back to the origin of morality. I think morality isn't "made up," in the basic sense but a trait that is psychologically innate to group cooperation. In other words, morality appears as a set of unspoken rules that men follow in order to work together.

But is it Nature or Nurture?

Empathy and fear of the unknown/death are clearly natural. The human tendency to prosper in a social enviroment seems to be quite natural as well.

Morality in matters such as sex, property, beliefs, education or deities, however, is clearly a matter of nurture.

[George Kaplan]

and dispose of things.

Yeah like those damn dirty Gomorrahmites.

(I would have said sodomites, but I didn't want to sound homophobic)

[Vazdania]

Our God is an awesome God. God alone is has the power to create, God causes both Good and 'Evil' to occur within our lives, for us to better understand him.

Why not just "Magic" understanding into our heads?

That'd interfere with our ability to reject God.

[The Aztec Allience]

Because God is to busy running an entire universe to give a crap about a few problems on one single planet.

How can a god be busy?

Being lazy.

It's tough.

But seriously, I challenge the concept of complete omnipotence. My theory is that God is not omnipotent and has limits to his power, giving him less control over daily life than one would think.

[Armstrongs Landing]

Who decides whats good and evil? Maybe its "good" for us to think there is "evil"

Ansalms Ontological Argument reminds us that if man can conceive God AND if God actually exists, then God will by nature excede mans conception.

Just sayin'

[Scholencia]

By early Greek philosophers there was the thought that every think (and creature) has a being. so, one of the tasks of the Greek philsophers was to to discover what is the being of all life and world. This part of philosophy which is dedicated to explore the being is called Metaphysics.

Various schools offered different explanations of the nature of the being. The Pythagorean schools, for example, thought the numbers is the being (according to them every thing on the world is made according to mathematics formulas and therefore this is the reason why everything can be measured; even feeling like love or hatred).

There is even a more extreme schools called the Ealits (named after the city from which they all come), who thought that there is no being and that reallity does not exist, not even live and that the whole world is an imagination. They even proof their theory with a mathematic thesis

I was aware of this...but how is it relevant to this thread?

The thread is about philosophic questions, so I thought it was relevant. Sorry

[Liriena]

This is a good question :

If God was completely good then he would want to stop all evil, if God was completely powerful then he could stop all evil, but evil exists....so does that mean that God is not completely good or not completely powerful, or does god not exist?

Please post your ideas about this question!

Our God is an awesome God. God alone is has the power to create, God causes both Good and 'Evil' to occur within our lives, for us to better understand him.

For us to better understand that he is an incompetent, amoral and self-centered piece of shit?

Yeah, we got the memo.

[Vazdania]

How can a god be busy?

Being lazy.

It's tough.

But seriously, I challenge the concept of complete omnipotence. My theory is that God is not omnipotent and has limits to his power, giving him less control over daily life than one would think.

I think that is called......BLASPHEMY!

[Liriena]

Who decides whats good and evil? Maybe its "good" for us to think there is "evil"

Ansalms Ontological Argument reminds us that if man can conceive God AND if God actually exists, then God will by nature excede mans conception.

Just sayin'

Ladies and gentlemen, we've got ourselves a self-defeating argument.

[Cameroi]

how can it not.

They're meant to be all powerful.

just more powerful then any one other thing that exists. that does not have to equal infinity or even come close.
and again, whatever anyone or even if it were universally everyone, thinks a god is, thinks they know about it, whether all powerful or simply most powerful, how would it be either, if it owed anything to what we like to think we know?

[Vazdania]

Our God is an awesome God. God alone is has the power to create, God causes both Good and 'Evil' to occur within our lives, for us to better understand him.

For us to better understand that he is an incompetent, amoral and self-centered piece of shit?

Yeah, we got the memo.

You can choose to think negative things about God if you so choose.

[Liriena]

I was aware of this...but how is it relevant to this thread?

The thread is about philosophic questions, so I thought it was relevant. Sorry

No need to apologise. However, the thread is about a particular philosophic question, not philosophic questions in general.

[Scholencia]

Back at theists.

I find your misrepresentation of Plato's allegory insulting.

It fits good on modern-day society, of all humans regardless of faith, nationality of whatsoever. But most scholars agree the Sun is an allegory for God while the people in the cave might be atheists.

[Furious Grandmothers]

I find your misrepresentation of Plato's allegory insulting.

It fits good on modern-day society, of all humans regardless of faith, nationality of whatsoever. But most scholars agree the Sun is an allegory for God while the people in the cave might be atheists.

Most scholars in what field? Source for "most"?

[Minarchist States]

But that brings us back to the origin of morality. I think morality isn't "made up," in the basic sense but a trait that is psychologically innate to group cooperation. In other words, morality appears as a set of unspoken rules that men follow in order to work together.

But is it Nature or Nurture?

Empathy and fear of the unknown/death are clearly natural. The human tendency to prosper in a social enviroment seems to be quite natural as well.

Morality in matters such as sex, property, beliefs, education or deities, however, is clearly a matter of nurture.

Admittedly yes, it varies from culture to culture. But consciousness is a part of nature, and morality is a product of nurture. So where is the line drawn? I think certain "natural guidelines" create the blueprint for human's adaptability, and free will is part of that adaptability, but there must be certain boundaries that exist, I believe.

[Minarchist States]

I find your misrepresentation of Plato's allegory insulting.

It fits good on modern-day society, of all humans regardless of faith, nationality of whatsoever. But most scholars agree the Sun is an allegory for God while the people in the cave might be atheists.

I don't think that's what Plato was getting at... >.>

[Scholencia]

It fits good on modern-day society, of all humans regardless of faith, nationality of whatsoever. But most scholars agree the Sun is an allegory for God while the people in the cave might be atheists.

Most scholars in what field? Source for "most"?

Philosophy, nobody said that is was sure but that it was assumption.

Thomas Aquinas, Augustine of Hippo and Tertullian are among the people who support that thesis.