Im not sure what hes saying either.
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by Lost heros » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:56 am

by George Kaplan » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:54 am

by Dyakovo » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:08 am
Southern Babylonia wrote:So, a hypothetical question for you guys:
Let's say it was declared tomorrow that the United States needed to become a constitutional monarchy, and everyone agreed to this proposition. Congress, the Senate, etc. would work the exact same way, the only difference being the position of a figurehead who could do nothing but give the royal seal of approval. In the end, they decided to allow every American to vote on who the first monarch would be. From that moment onwards, the position would be hereditary.
1. Now, supposing there was no voter fraud, who do you think would be elected to the office? Would it be a politician? A singer? An actor/actrice? Would this be the beginning of the Bradjolinian dynasty?
2. Regardless of whether or not you think they WOULD be elected, supposing you personally had to appoint one, who would it be? Would you at all be inclined to give yourself the position? If so, why would you want it?
3. Do you think, given a good degree of acceptance of the citizens of the US, that this monarchy could last? How do you think the international community would react? Would they want to influence the choice?
4. If it was simply decreed today, without any foregone conclusions about the general American population being more or less in favour of it, what do you think THEIR reaction would be? Would they be (obviously many would be) furious? Angered? Disconcerted? Apathetic? Content? Glad? Enthusiastic?
Personally, I have no idea who I think would be elected, or who would be best for a figurehead position. I'm of the opinion that their wouldn't be much of a kerfuffle internationally, but in the US, if it were simply declared right now, it'd definitely have huge consequences. That said, some of those into British royal pageantry and the viewing thereof might actually be really excited. Though I don't think it'd spark a civil war, I'm sure there'd be some armed resistance, somewhere. That said, I'm not American.
Well, your move, NSG.
EDIT: And no, for the record, I don't think this should happen. At least, not unless it also got many more people more interested in real politics.

by Farnhamia » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:10 am
Dyakovo wrote:Southern Babylonia wrote:So, a hypothetical question for you guys:
Let's say it was declared tomorrow that the United States needed to become a constitutional monarchy, and everyone agreed to this proposition. Congress, the Senate, etc. would work the exact same way, the only difference being the position of a figurehead who could do nothing but give the royal seal of approval. In the end, they decided to allow every American to vote on who the first monarch would be. From that moment onwards, the position would be hereditary.
1. Now, supposing there was no voter fraud, who do you think would be elected to the office? Would it be a politician? A singer? An actor/actrice? Would this be the beginning of the Bradjolinian dynasty?
2. Regardless of whether or not you think they WOULD be elected, supposing you personally had to appoint one, who would it be? Would you at all be inclined to give yourself the position? If so, why would you want it?
3. Do you think, given a good degree of acceptance of the citizens of the US, that this monarchy could last? How do you think the international community would react? Would they want to influence the choice?
4. If it was simply decreed today, without any foregone conclusions about the general American population being more or less in favour of it, what do you think THEIR reaction would be? Would they be (obviously many would be) furious? Angered? Disconcerted? Apathetic? Content? Glad? Enthusiastic?
Personally, I have no idea who I think would be elected, or who would be best for a figurehead position. I'm of the opinion that their wouldn't be much of a kerfuffle internationally, but in the US, if it were simply declared right now, it'd definitely have huge consequences. That said, some of those into British royal pageantry and the viewing thereof might actually be really excited. Though I don't think it'd spark a civil war, I'm sure there'd be some armed resistance, somewhere. That said, I'm not American.
Well, your move, NSG.
EDIT: And no, for the record, I don't think this should happen. At least, not unless it also got many more people more interested in real politics.
How would the US become a monarchy?

by Genivaria » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:10 am
Dyakovo wrote:Southern Babylonia wrote:So, a hypothetical question for you guys:
Let's say it was declared tomorrow that the United States needed to become a constitutional monarchy, and everyone agreed to this proposition. Congress, the Senate, etc. would work the exact same way, the only difference being the position of a figurehead who could do nothing but give the royal seal of approval. In the end, they decided to allow every American to vote on who the first monarch would be. From that moment onwards, the position would be hereditary.
1. Now, supposing there was no voter fraud, who do you think would be elected to the office? Would it be a politician? A singer? An actor/actrice? Would this be the beginning of the Bradjolinian dynasty?
2. Regardless of whether or not you think they WOULD be elected, supposing you personally had to appoint one, who would it be? Would you at all be inclined to give yourself the position? If so, why would you want it?
3. Do you think, given a good degree of acceptance of the citizens of the US, that this monarchy could last? How do you think the international community would react? Would they want to influence the choice?
4. If it was simply decreed today, without any foregone conclusions about the general American population being more or less in favour of it, what do you think THEIR reaction would be? Would they be (obviously many would be) furious? Angered? Disconcerted? Apathetic? Content? Glad? Enthusiastic?
Personally, I have no idea who I think would be elected, or who would be best for a figurehead position. I'm of the opinion that their wouldn't be much of a kerfuffle internationally, but in the US, if it were simply declared right now, it'd definitely have huge consequences. That said, some of those into British royal pageantry and the viewing thereof might actually be really excited. Though I don't think it'd spark a civil war, I'm sure there'd be some armed resistance, somewhere. That said, I'm not American.
Well, your move, NSG.
EDIT: And no, for the record, I don't think this should happen. At least, not unless it also got many more people more interested in real politics.
How would the US become a monarchy?

by New Tsar Kingdom » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:12 am

by New Tsar Kingdom » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:13 am

by Magna Libero » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:14 am

by George Kaplan » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:15 am

by George Kaplan » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:16 am
New Tsar Kingdom wrote:I think this would be a great improvement on a single government. Britain owned and still owns much of one quater of Earth, and that was with a Monarchy. America should follow the footsteps of our great founder!


by Evil Grantica » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:18 am

by Blakullar » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:20 am

by New Bazlantis » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:20 am

by Karrgath » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:25 am

by Zarodia » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:28 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:I am not sure there is sufficient gunpowder around to cannon-launch enough of them to Manhattan from their parents' basements.

by Newfoundland-Labrador » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:29 am

by Karrgath » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:37 am
Zarodia wrote:1. Now, supposing there was no voter fraud, who do you think would be elected to the office? Would it be a politician? A singer? An actor/actrice? Would this be the beginning of the Bradjolinian dynasty?
If the public is voting, and there are no requirements for being eligible for candidacy, then very likely one of the more politically outspoken celebrities will win. Very likely it will be a celebrity who loudly adopts the views of the general public as soon as this whole "elect a monarch" this is announced.
2. Regardless of whether or not you think they WOULD be elected, supposing you personally had to appoint one, who would it be? Would you at all be inclined to give yourself the position? If so, why would you want it?
Myself, obviously. No one, especially no one likely to get elected, is better suited for the position than me, for numerous reasons. I'd be the best leader, also for numerous reasons, and I'd love to have the chance to influence politics even if it's only in the small way I'd be allowed to. The extraordinary amount of money that I'm likely to get while being monarch also factors into my desire.
3. Do you think, given a good degree of acceptance of the citizens of the US, that this monarchy could last? How do you think the international community would react? Would they want to influence the choice?
The monarchy wouldn't be doing anything, and would give congress a good scapegoat because people are stupid, so yes, it would likely last a while. The international community wouldn't care unless the monarch had extreme political ideas, and even then they would only care because those views would, because the monarch was elected, be approved by the general populace. It would make news in most countries, but in the same way celebrities make news here: no one really gives a fuck what they do, they just like reading about them.
4. If it was simply decreed today, without any foregone conclusions about the general American population being more or less in favour of it, what do you think THEIR reaction would be? Would they be (obviously many would be) furious? Angered? Disconcerted? Apathetic? Content? Glad? Enthusiastic?
Most wouldn't like it as they'd ridiculously assume that it would be easy for a ceremonial monarch to become an actual politically relevant monarch, however most wouldn't be bottom-befuddled enough to actually do anything about it. Most would whine on tumblr about the injustice of having a monarch, some might yell and hold poorly-written signs, but that'd be the extent of it.

by Genivaria » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:57 am
George Kaplan wrote:Genivaria wrote:Morgan Freeman was asked to be President and he said he would only ever be Emperor, and the people said "so be it" and it was good.
Except he is blackmailed by a North Korean paramilitary group into recalling the seventh fleet from the Sea of Japan and orders the withdrawal of all US troops from the Korean DMZ. Until a Scottish lawyer turned actor saves the day and Aaron Eckhart becomes president once again.

by Oliver Boringwell » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:59 am

by Karrgath » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:01 pm
Genivaria wrote:George Kaplan wrote:
Except he is blackmailed by a North Korean paramilitary group into recalling the seventh fleet from the Sea of Japan and orders the withdrawal of all US troops from the Korean DMZ. Until a Scottish lawyer turned actor saves the day and Aaron Eckhart becomes president once again.
God I hated that movie.

by New Tsar Kingdom » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:06 pm
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